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Posted by Fast Turtle on Sep-03-2004 02:36:

For US Citizens 18 or older

Remember to go out and vote, whichever side or direction you believe in. I'm looking into getting an absentee ballot (hoping I'm not missing the deadline yet, heh) because I'm living out of country.

Every individual vote counts, don't be apathetic.

register here

Posted by Mr. Pink on Sep-03-2004 02:39:

*pathetic*

Posted by Fast Turtle on Sep-03-2004 02:40:

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Originally posted by Mr. Pink
*pathetic*

(only slightly hypocritical) Does anyone know when the deadline for absentee ballots is, by the way?

Posted by TweeK on Sep-03-2004 02:44:

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Originally posted by Lephaid

Every individual vote counts, don't be apathetic.

not really if you really think about it with the whole electoral vote.

state with the highest population gets more electoral votes.... so that statement isnt 100% true.

Posted by Fast Turtle on Sep-03-2004 02:45:

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Originally posted by TweeK
not really if you really think about it with the whole electoral vote.

state with the highest population gets more electoral votes.... so that statement isnt 100% true.

Yes, this is also completely true, unfortunately. :P Fucking US voting system.

At least it's something, though.

Posted by svens_bath on Sep-03-2004 02:57:

just watching the Bush speech. its hilarious, its like watching a wrestling match. "DONT VOTE HIM!DONT VOTE HIM!" when he started talking about Kerry. still, at least its watchable unlike our elections, which are as dry as your old da's nutsac

Posted by SportTrance on Sep-03-2004 02:57:

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ima actually going to be pissed if bush wins this one, and YES im in texas

Posted by TweeK on Sep-03-2004 03:09:

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Originally posted by svens_bath
just watching the Bush speech. its hilarious, its like watching a wrestling match. "DONT VOTE HIM!DONT VOTE HIM!" when he started talking about Kerry. still, at least its watchable unlike our elections, which are as dry as your old da's nutsac

ya watching that in the UK?

Posted by Orbital32 on Sep-03-2004 03:27:

I proud to say i'm don't care if i vote or not. No really, i don't care. But if PvD comes down and does a Rock The Vote tour, i'll be there!

Posted by tribu on Sep-03-2004 04:47:

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Originally posted by TweeK
not really if you really think about it with the whole electoral vote.

state with the highest population gets more electoral votes.... so that statement isnt 100% true.

If you think about it logically this isnt really the problem. It makes sense that the states with higher populations have higher proportional votes. More people are represented and thus to give a state with a population of 8 million and equal amount of electoral votes as one that has 40 million seems kind of unfair (in my opinion). Also in my opinion, the problem with our current system is that winner-take-all feature of the electoral college. The winner of the popular voting takes all of the electoral votes of a state. Thus is CandidateA wins StateX (with 21 electoral votes) 48% to 42% for CandidateB (10% is reserved for error/non-major candidates), then Candidate A takes all 21 votes. I believe the solution to this is proportional awarding on electoral votes. In this system, CandidateA would take 48% of the states 21 votes, CandidateB would take 42%, etc. This seems like a proper and fair way to keep the electoral college in existence while also making it a more representational system...

EDIT: A certain 3rd party candidate supports this and other electoral reforms, but as I figure everyone has figured out whom I support by now, I wont bother plugging him here

Posted by blazed it on Sep-03-2004 05:46:

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Originally posted by Orbital32
I proud to say i'm don't care if i vote or not. No really, i don't care. But if PvD comes down and does a Rock The Vote tour, i'll be there!

then you are fucking idiot and a waste of space. Good thing Kerry is like 95% for sure going to carry california.

Posted by Mebot on Sep-03-2004 05:55:

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Originally posted by Lephaid
(only slightly hypocritical) Does anyone know when the deadline for absentee ballots is, by the way?

i think it's usually 30-45 days before the election.. um..so that would make it...like sept 30 or something i think...

i dunno its too late for math right now...

Posted by Orbital32 on Sep-03-2004 06:42:

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Originally posted by blazed it
then you are fucking idiot and a waste of space. Good thing Kerry is like 95% for sure going to carry california.

Oh, i'm a fuckin idiot and a waste of space for exercising my right not to vote. Do i REALLY have to choose one or the other? No i do not. Most people have to choose one or the other. You either hate kerry or you hate bush. I am not Republican. I am not a Democrat. I belive both have good points in a broad range of topics. So for me it does not matter who wins. Now for me to vote does it actually make a differnce, for me personally? No it does not because either way one of those 2 are going to win. IF i felt strongly for one of the other then i would vote. Since i don't feel strongly for neither i will excerise my right not to vote in this win-win situation. So the only thing i can say to you is shove it up your ass.

Posted by DaveSZ on Sep-03-2004 14:09:

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Originally posted by tribu
If you think about it logically this isnt really the problem. It makes sense that the states with higher populations have higher proportional votes. More people are represented and thus to give a state with a population of 8 million and equal amount of electoral votes as one that has 40 million seems kind of unfair (in my opinion). Also in my opinion, the problem with our current system is that winner-take-all feature of the electoral college. The winner of the popular voting takes all of the electoral votes of a state. Thus is CandidateA wins StateX (with 21 electoral votes) 48% to 42% for CandidateB (10% is reserved for error/non-major candidates), then Candidate A takes all 21 votes. I believe the solution to this is proportional awarding on electoral votes. In this system, CandidateA would take 48% of the states 21 votes, CandidateB would take 42%, etc. This seems like a proper and fair way to keep the electoral college in existence while also making it a more representational system...

EDIT: A certain 3rd party candidate supports this and other electoral reforms, but as I figure everyone has figured out whom I support by now, I wont bother plugging him here

I'm all for scrapping winner takes all.

Colorado has a referendum to allocate EVs proportionally, and I hope it passes.

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
Oh, i'm a fuckin idiot and a waste of space for exercising my right not to vote. Do i REALLY have to choose one or the other? No i do not. Most people have to choose one or the other. You either hate kerry or you hate bush. I am not Republican. I am not a Democrat. I belive both have good points in a broad range of topics. So for me it does not matter who wins. Now for me to vote does it actually make a differnce, for me personally? No it does not because either way one of those 2 are going to win. IF i felt strongly for one of the other then i would vote. Since i don't feel strongly for neither i will excerise my right not to vote in this win-win situation. So the only thing i can say to you is shove it up your ass.

I disagree with Bush on the enviornment, judicial nominees, the deficit/national debt, and neocon policies like child torture.

I disagree with Kerry on trade and gun control - though I'm all for strong background checks at gun shows and elsewhere.

quote:
Originally posted by SportTrance
ima actually going to be pissed if bush wins this one, and YES im in texas

I thought you were for Bush?

Posted by Arbiter on Sep-03-2004 15:41:

Actually dotn' vote if you're going to vote for bush. Leave the voting to people with a little judgment.

Posted by SportTrance on Sep-03-2004 16:04:

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Originally posted by DaveSZ

I thought you were for Bush?

eh, I was before the war but my opinion was partial. I knew his interests, I knew it was more than meets the eye, but frankly the administration blatantly failed horribly.

I'm not a big fan of kerry either, but I know where he stands on the subject, and I know he's not bush. Thats probably the most simple, basic answer I can give. It gets much more complex, but frankly, im burnt out on it all.

Posted by tribu on Sep-04-2004 06:05:

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Originally posted by SportTrance
eh, I was before the war but my opinion was partial. I knew his interests, I knew it was more than meets the eye, but frankly the administration blatantly failed horribly.

I'm not a big fan of kerry either, but I know where he stands on the subject, and I know he's not bush. Thats probably the most simple, basic answer I can give. It gets much more complex, but frankly, im burnt out on it all.

Maybe you should consider researching some of the third party candidates before casting your final vote

Posted by EriK_V on Sep-04-2004 06:34:

tired of people encouraging the younger generation to vote, especially mtv. as if they weren't already competent or would somehow forget. cut the crap already.

Posted by mndeg on Sep-04-2004 06:53:

FOUR MORE YEARS!
lol

Posted by tribu on Sep-04-2004 06:55:

hahahahah that is a great picture

Posted by Audigy7 on Sep-04-2004 06:59:

VOTE NADER!!!!

Posted by tribu on Sep-04-2004 07:04:

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Originally posted by Audigy7
VOTE NADER!!!!

Posted by Q5echo on Sep-04-2004 07:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Lephaid
(only slightly hypocritical) Does anyone know when the deadline for absentee ballots is, by the way?

sent mine in tuesday. each state deadlines are different.
this should help.http://www.overseasvote.com/faq/state/

Posted by Q5echo on Sep-04-2004 07:14:

quote:
Originally posted by mndeg

FOUR MORE YEARS!
lol

that is some funny mo**er f**king sh*t