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Xone 62 vs ? Help

I currently have the xone 62 and really dont care for it. The eqs cut way to much out, and for home use it seems so clean it is hard to mix good when hooked up to my krk monitors, anybody have opinions about this mixer compared to the djm-600? Is pioneer coming out with anything new?

I'm not sure what you mean at all. I can say that i owned a Xone: 62 for two days, and didn't like it very much. My main concern was the fact that while monitoring from my headphones, the sound quality was really unimpressive, meaning that it was very hard to hear and distinguish two beats when more than one channel was cued. I also really didn't like the fact that you couldn't hear eq chnages in the headphones. I actually ended up taking mine back and exchanging it for a DJM 600 which I'm currently in love with. My personal preference lies with the DJM 600.

actual output sound quality, the a&h beats the shit out of the djm600. unfortunatly, that really is about all that the a&h beats the djm600 on in my opinion.

the djm600 might not look pretty, but its a lovely mixer to use and it has a great layout. the faders are nice and short, eq's seem to be about bang on, wicked x-fader (a&h x-faders are pants, except the one in the xone02? scratch mixer) and the effects are very good when used correctly.

if you are looking for a new mixer, it may be worth your while having a look at the nuo5, as it looks like the ultimate mixer.

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Originally posted by Mwd I currently have the xone 62 and really dont care for it. The eqs cut way to much out, and for home use it seems so clean it is hard to mix good when hooked up to my krk monitors, anybody have opinions about this mixer compared to the djm-600? Is pioneer coming out with anything new?

For a mixer in the house, you really cant go wrong with the DJM, people go on and on about the A&H is miles better but IMO the DJM is a much easier mixer to use and has alot more features too. The A&H is all about quality build and sound, but unless its getting hammered every night through a phazon sound system then it reall isnt going to make all the difference. The good point is that you will sell it no problem for near enough the same price you bought it. My only advice is try the next mixer you buy before you buy it. That way you wont be in this situation again..

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Originally posted by Mwd I currently have the xone 62 and really dont care for it. The eqs cut way to much out, and for home use it seems so clean it is hard to mix good when hooked up to my krk monitors, anybody have opinions about this mixer compared to the djm-600? Is pioneer coming out with anything new?

Oh my god. You think the Xone cuts too much and you wanna get a DJM600, you should smack yourself in the face because the DJM600 cuts all the way down (which is NOT a good thing).

And when you say you can't mix because the mixer sounds too clean, then there's something wrong with the person standing behind it.

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a&h x-faders are pants, except the one in the xone02? scratch mixer

Bullshit. A&H uses Penny & Giles faders for the crossfader (which are faders that are used in aircraft and such). P&G faders are the second best faders (next to a conductive fader).

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if you are looking for a new mixer, it may be worth your while having a look at the nuo5, as it looks like the ultimate mixer.

So true!

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I also really didn't like the fact that you couldn't hear eq chnages in the headphones.

We modify our Xone:62's so that you have equalizing on the CUE. It can be done. That's like the only bad habit of A&H (Vestax used to have this habit as well).

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Originally posted by DjVash Oh my god. You think the Xone cuts too much and you wanna get a DJM600, you should smack yourself in the face because the DJM600 cuts all the way down (which is NOT a good thing).

no it doesnt. the djm600 and the xone 62 have the same cuts (-26)

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Originally posted by DjVash Bullshit. A&H uses Penny & Giles faders for the crossfader (which are faders that are used in aircraft and such). P&G faders are the second best faders (next to a conductive fader).

so why does it sound shite whenever i have used it for cutting? the curve adjustment hardly makes it sharp enough either... they may well be high quality faders, but they obviously ain't wired up as well as, for example, a djm600.

give me a PCV x-fader any day

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Originally posted by Unknown DJ no it doesnt. the djm600 and the xone 62 have the same cuts (-26)

Those are just specs. And take my word, NEVER believe the specs. A Pioneer cuts way deeper (for instance, when you cut the bass, sound level shoots 7dB down !!).

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so why does it sound shite whenever i have used it for cutting? the curve adjustment hardly makes it sharp enough either... they may well be high quality faders, but they obviously ain't wired up as well as, for example, a djm600. give me a PCV x-fader any day

A DJM600 can NEVER measure up to the sound quality of an A&H. I guess you just had a so-called monday morning model.

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Originally posted by DjVash Those are just specs. And take my word, NEVER believe the specs. A Pioneer cuts way deeper (for instance, when you cut the bass, sound level shoots 7dB down !!).

Isn't that to do with how wide they cut?, I think thats called something like Q range, then theres another setting thats on EQs, basically I know that you can have 2 EQs that cut to the same db amount, but one is much different from the other.

As for mixers, I'd recommend either The Ecler Nuo5 or the Denon X1500 if your looking for an outstanding mixer, there both nuts, I personally went for the Denon and piss myself with fun when I get on it, I better stop now, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it.

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Isn't that to do with how wide they cut?, I think thats called something like Q range, then theres another setting thats on EQs, basically I know that you can have 2 EQs that cut to the same db amount, but one is much different from the other.

Exactly!

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Originally posted by DjVash A DJM600 can NEVER measure up to the sound quality of an A&H. I guess you just had a so-called monday morning model.

i never said that. in fact if you read my post i stated what you just did i said the x-fader didnt cut sharp enough or fast enough.

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Originally posted by DannyO Isn't that to do with how wide they cut?, I think thats called something like Q range, then theres another setting thats on EQs, basically I know that you can have 2 EQs that cut to the same db amount, but one is much different from the other. As for mixers, I'd recommend either The Ecler Nuo5 or the Denon X1500 if your looking for an outstanding mixer, there both nuts, I personally went for the Denon and piss myself with fun when I get on it, I better stop now, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it.

hey danny. how is the x1500? im lookin into getting a new mixer and its kinda between the djm 600, the xone 62, or the x1500. how do u find it? how is the quality of osund output? what r the effects like? and does it make vinyl osund all digitised? (i understand this is a digital mixer correct?) thanks in advance

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Originally posted by Unknown DJ hey danny. how is the x1500? im lookin into getting a new mixer and its kinda between the djm 600, the xone 62, or the x1500. how do u find it? how is the quality of osund output? what r the effects like? and does it make vinyl osund all digitised? (i understand this is a digital mixer correct?) thanks in advance

Its an awesome mixer, I'm actually surprised that it isn't mentioned more on these forums, I really do believe it is one of the best mixers out there, next to the Ecler Nuo5 and say the A&H Xones, but there a different style of mixer (less effects more sound quality)
even though its kinda complicating at first with all the setting s everywhere, it doesn't take long to get to know how it all works and its really very easy, it becomes your best friend, you sound quality is more than I could ask for, its crystal clear and thats on speakers that I've blown the tweeters in and need replacing, as for the effects, even though the Eclers are better, they are still outstanding and I believe they have some world first effects in it, like the Transform effect and the Key effect (correct me if I'm wrong people), also on the first Echo effect if you turn the wet/dry knob to max it creates a loop that can go from either 1/4 of a beat to 8 beats long, and while it loops this, you can just take your record off and mix in something else, I believe you "could" mix with one turntable with this feature, as for the whole digital thing, it is a fully digital mixer, but I have not noticed any digital sound coming out of it, I'm not an expert scratcher, but when I scratch abit, it still sounds like any other mixer, this mixer really is a dream, after the broadcast I did the other night, I really am in love with it, ask J:\Digital on here aswell what he thinks, hes been on mine abit, and I think he likes it, I'll get him to come in here and make a post later, but if you want more, heres a thread I made awhile back that I'm gonna update soon.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=205017

Also, Tegu asked me about this mixer lastnight, maybe he could post my responce in here for all to see.

Oh yea, I know I sound like an advertisement for Denon but I'm not, I just love this dam mixer, and unfortunately I ain't affiliated (sp?)with them.

Well, here I am...

I am being forced to reply to this thread.. DannyO is holding a gun to my head...

So here goes..
Yea. This mixer is pretty damn amazing. Some of the shit that it can do, I have not seen on any other mixers. The effects are PRIME, and if they do release more with the updates this mixer with sort of become 'Future Proof'. The sound quality is 10000000x better than the POS Behringer DJX700 DannyO had before.. And it is a super easy mixer to learn, I have only been on it a few times, but I know my way around it pretty good considering.. The headphone cue, is SWEET... soo smooth, it mixes the tracks in your can JUST like if you were mixing on your speakers... alot of other mixers I find that the cue'd track comes in to soft or too hard etc... The matrix system is a bonus aswell, I never used it yet, but just playing around with it opened up some ideas that you can do/use while mixing... Overall I think this mixer is better than the DJM600... better sound quality, better effects, just as solidly built (so far), and its cheaper...

Its everything a DJ needs... even scratch DJ's, when the update comes out to improve the already great faders/xfader...

umm don't know what else to say really...

PS: The FLANGER ROXORZ!!@!@!@!!1111

you say you don't care for it? I'll take it!

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Originally posted by DannyO I believe they have some world first effects in it, like the Transform effect and the Key effect (correct me if I'm wrong people)

stand corrected

djm600/3000 has both

but yeah, when i get a new mixer i will be sure to check this out

what is this thing with the faders requiring an update? whats the problem with them now?

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Originally posted by tu_face stand corrected djm600/3000 has both but yeah, when i get a new mixer i will be sure to check this out what is this thing with the faders requiring an update? whats the problem with them now?

**hangs head in shame**

I don't care, I still have the matrix, and the matrix controls the world.

The problem with the faders is in the software, you can use them fine for mixing, but if you want to do anything fast with them like for scratching or a simple volume drop, you can't slam it back in on beat, it will be slightly delayed, as for the x-fader, I find it plenty fast enough, but then again I ain't a turntablist, it doesn't seem to cut in fast enough when set on sharp, you can still move the fader in slighty before the sound will kick in, but these have been fixed now and I'm waiting for the update that is this month, and is said to be within the next few days, I think it will be after the Plasa show.

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