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Evolution of taste

A lot of people go on after have discovered trance to listen to a variety of genres such as progressive, breaks, drum and bass, and house. While many of these people fully progress out of liking trance, others still listen to it.

I don't understand people who go on about how there is a lack of good quality songs about. I like my progressive and breaks a great deal but these are a list of songs that rock my world from my trace tastes.

menno de jong - guanxi
astura - cassandra
Above & Beyond Pres Tranquility Base - Surrender
Magellan project - ALT+F4
Dido - Sand In My Shoes (Above & Beyond Mix)
Endre - Kallocain
All John O'Callaghan's stuff
All Smith & Pledger's stuff
The Cranberries - Shattered (Bootleg)

Also releases from filo & peri, super8, Aalto, Mirco de Govia, perry o'neil.

There are loads more.

I think lots of people say that their tastes have moved bveyond trance because they think it makes them seem cooler. It seems to be fashionable these days to say you used to like trance and have now moved on to something else.

Either that or they never really liked trance and are using that excuse to convert others.

Most of my songs that go into my fave tunes section of my sig or prog or breaks, but i think there are plenty of quality songs about.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 I think lots of people say that their tastes have moved bveyond trance because they think it makes them seem cooler. It seems to be fashionable these days to say you used to like trance and have now moved on to something else. Either that or they never really liked trance and are using that excuse to convert others.

i thikn you are making a stereotype. why is there a need to be cool on the internet?
as for me, i listened to trance since 98, and 2 years ago started listening to breaks and last year prog. now i mainly listen to prog and breaks, and some trance. i just find progressive and breaks a lot more interesting than trance, although there are still a few good trance tunes out there for me.

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Originally posted by hadi ****** i thikn you are making a stereotype. why is there a need to be cool on the internet? as for me, i listened to trance since 98, and 2 years ago started listening to breaks and last year prog. now i mainly listen to prog and breaks, and some trance. i just find progressive and breaks a lot more interesting than trance, although there are still a few good trance tunes out there for me.

Yes, "interesting" or the lack of it is most likely one point why many people have gone further away from today's trance. Most trance nowadays is just ASOT fluff style with zillion supersaws, unoriginal melodies, breakdowns buildups and typical kick drums drilling into your ears which has been done so many times before. I find the current style soo boring. Bring up some originality into trance again and i might start to fully like it again. Of course there are some exceptions but minority anyway in the huge grey masses of ASOT fluff.

And btw Billabong, plz try even know what you're listenin.. Alt+F4 is not a Magellan Project track even if it is the same guys. They are using an Alt+F4 alias on that track.

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Originally posted by GrimReaper And btw Billabong, plz try even know what you're listenin.. Alt+F4 is not a Magellan Project track even if it is the same guys. They are using an Alt+F4 alias on that track.

Would "i think you made a mistake with your id" not have been a nicer way to put accross your thought. Somehow i feel as if you are trying to paint the "you don't know anything" brush.

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Originally posted by Billabong Would "i think you made a mistake with your id" not have been a nicer way to put accross your thought. Somehow i feel as if you are trying to paint the "you don't know anything" brush.

Sorry, i didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Nothing like that. The ID is just a result of always oh so kind world of mp3s. The artist issue has been discussed here when the track wasn't signed yet and straightened out by the duo themselves.

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Originally posted by GrimReaper Sorry, i didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Nothing like that. The ID is just a result of always oh so kind world of mp3s. The artist issue has been discussed here when the track wasn't signed yet and straightened out by the duo themselves.

Lol you didn't hurt my feelings. I just remembered the song from above and beyonds global dj broadcast set, and remembered someone stated it was megellan project.

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Originally posted by GrimReaper Yes, "interesting" or the lack of it is most likely one point why many people have gone further away from today's trance. Most trance nowadays is just ASOT fluff style with zillion supersaws, unoriginal melodies, breakdowns buildups and typical kick drums drilling into your ears which has been done so many times before. I find the current style soo boring. Bring up some originality into trance again and i might start to fully like it again. Of course there are some exceptions but minority anyway in the huge grey masses of ASOT fluff.

agreed almost 100%


but there's still loads of good trance released nowadays, it's just that most of it is just pure plain fluff crap! like the tunes you Billabong listed! just the kind of tunes i never liked!
but trance is still by far my fav genre and i mainly listen to trance! some other stuff on the side too like always though

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Originally posted by hadi ****** i thikn you are making a stereotype. why is there a need to be cool on the internet? as for me, i listened to trance since 98, and 2 years ago started listening to breaks and last year prog. now i mainly listen to prog and breaks, and some trance. i just find progressive and breaks a lot more interesting than trance, although there are still a few good trance tunes out there for me.

I totally understand that, what annoys me are the masses who follow prog/breaks/house now cos it's seen as cooler music than trance and slag you off if you're not perfect like they believe themselves to be.

However for some of us, our evolution takes us through psy & techno and in cases back to the older sounds we used to love and perhaps forgot about a bit.

Trance as it is now is stale, as said before, 90% of tracks have breakdowns that are too simple, melodies that have not evolved and there seems to be too many people in it to try & get signed and make money rather than in the older days where there were quality people like Oliver Lieb, Ferry, Humate, Chakra etc etc making lots of good tunes

if people wanna know whats wrong with the genre today...go listen to ASOT or look at the new releases section...its all crap. every once in a while you'll get a tune that is good out of those places. this is what i got down as good from this year that i've listened to...you'll notice there isn't a bunch of ASOT crap in it because that stuff is wank... there are a couple...but those are the tracks that were actually half decent...

B4 - Onde
Brian Eno - An Ending (Ascent) (Leama & Moor Mix)
Chris Lake - Hiatus (Original Mix)
Chris Lake & Rowan Blades - Filth
Chris Salt - Atmospheric Graffiti
DCM - Deluded
DJ Suzy Solar - Ocean Of Love
Emjay & A Souter - Prepare Yourself
Ficta - Eli (Zabiela's Rave Lizard Mix)
Filterheadz - Yimanya (Original Mix)
Float - Preperation (Original Mix)
Grayarea - Gravity (Grayarea's Albatross Mix)
Interstate - I Found You
Invisible Inc - Stars (Ambient Mix)
James Talk - Beef Curtains (Fretwell Mix)
Lonstar - New Kicks
Mark O'Tool - Jack
Martin H - Liftin' (Origial Mix)
Paris & Sharp - Saigon (Original Mix)
Peter Martin - Perfect Wave (Original Mix)
Probspot - Blueberry
Pinkbox Special - Nice Guys Finish Last
Pinkbox Special - The French Don't Cry (Original Mix)
Psycatron - Never Wake Up
Quivver - Space Manoeurves Prt 3 (Original Mix)
Quivver & Rowan Blades - Hydrosonic
Rhino Drum - Underground Sound (Fretwell Mix)
Ridgewalkers - Find (Andy Moor Mix)
Sienna - Evoluzione (Original Mix)
Space Manouevres - Stage One (Leama & Moor Mix)
Steve Porter - Vodka Cranberries (Fretwell Mix)
Taxi - Glistening
The Ambush - Acapulco (Original Mix)
The Ambush - Madras (Original Mix)
Tilt - The World Doesn't Know
Tilt & Quivver - I Know You're Afraid
Tocharian - Nova Scotia
Thomas Penton - Dominica
Thomas Penton - Monolith
Way Out West - Apollo
Way Out West - Killa

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Originally posted by Floorfiller if people wanna know whats wrong with the genre today...go listen to ASOT or look at the new releases section...its all crap. every once in a while you'll get a tune that is good out of those places. this is what i got down as good from this year that i've listened to...you'll notice there isn't a bunch of ASOT crap in it because that stuff is wank... there are a couple...but those are the tracks that were actually half decent... B4 - Onde Brian Eno - An Ending (Ascent) (Leama & Moor Mix) Chris Lake - Hiatus (Original Mix) Chris Lake & Rowan Blades - Filth Chris Salt - Atmospheric Graffiti DCM - Deluded DJ Suzy Solar - Ocean Of Love Emjay & A Souter - Prepare Yourself Ficta - Eli (Zabiela's Rave Lizard Mix) Filterheadz - Yimanya (Original Mix) Float - Preperation (Original Mix) Grayarea - Gravity (Grayarea's Albatross Mix) Interstate - I Found You Invisible Inc - Stars (Ambient Mix) James Talk - Beef Curtains (Fretwell Mix) Lonstar - New Kicks Mark O'Tool - Jack Martin H - Liftin' (Origial Mix) Paris & Sharp - Saigon (Original Mix) Peter Martin - Perfect Wave (Original Mix) Probspot - Blueberry Pinkbox Special - Nice Guys Finish Last Pinkbox Special - The French Don't Cry (Original Mix) Psycatron - Never Wake Up Quivver - Space Manoeurves Prt 3 (Original Mix) Quivver & Rowan Blades - Hydrosonic Rhino Drum - Underground Sound (Fretwell Mix) Ridgewalkers - Find (Andy Moor Mix) Sienna - Evoluzione (Original Mix) Space Manouevres - Stage One (Leama & Moor Mix) Steve Porter - Vodka Cranberries (Fretwell Mix) Taxi - Glistening The Ambush - Acapulco (Original Mix) The Ambush - Madras (Original Mix) Tilt - The World Doesn't Know Tilt & Quivver - I Know You're Afraid Tocharian - Nova Scotia Thomas Penton - Dominica Thomas Penton - Monolith Way Out West - Apollo Way Out West - Killa

Most of those are great songs, but alot arnt trance. Although you have great taste.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 I think lots of people say that their tastes have moved bveyond trance because they think it makes them seem cooler. It seems to be fashionable these days to say you used to like trance and have now moved on to something else. Either that or they never really liked trance and are using that excuse to convert others.

Your argument holds very little point.

I started listening to trance, because at the time it was everywher and I quite liked it. However, as I began learning more about dance music I discovered there is so much more to offer than just trance music, which was beginning to bore me.

I think the point I'm trying to make is, that because trance is the most accessible music people always start off there, but once people learn more about the music they discover other things that they perhaps like better. Some folk however just keep on listening to trance.

To say people stop liking trance and start liking breaks etc to be cool is stupid.

i 'officially' started with listening to trance in 1999 and boy what a year to get into trance music.. it was quality after quality and almost everything that came out had turned to gold.. its like all the producers making trance music had the midas touch.. but the thing was i never despised other genres, such as progressive & techno.. i was a newb back then and inevitably, i preferred trance.. but kept the good other genre tracks close to my ears.. fast forward to now, year 2004... sad but true, trance comin out nowadays lost its magic.. most importantly, the melodies being made are very boring and unimaginative.. lost the 'freshness' and originality it had 5yrs ago or so.. i believe that besides being formulaic, if the melody is strong enuff, it can carry out a track but that hasnt been the case.. many tracks comin out sound like eachother, and all these 'updated' classics being released isnt helping the genre to move forward either.. now, i love trance and will continue to support it beacuse when done right, no other styles can give you the same kind of emotions as trance music, but you need to admit the truth no matter of how much it hurts... being biased isnt what a true fan/supporter does.. well, my 2cents on this topic.

some trancers that stand out for me this year :

Olivier - Future
Oracle - Aries
Arctic Quest - Off Beat
Frank Who ? - Wonderfull

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 I think lots of people say that their tastes have moved bveyond trance because they think it makes them seem cooler. It seems to be fashionable these days to say you used to like trance and have now moved on to something else. Either that or they never really liked trance and are using that excuse to convert others.

...And that statement is coming from a person who has Armin listed in their profile as their favorite dj/producer. It seems like the people who always say what you just said are the hardcore Armin/Tiesto/PvD trancers. Get off your high horse and quit making lame-ass assumptions.

Sure, for some people it very well may be fashionable to say they used to like trance but now have moved on. But for many people, they seriously do not like the trance sound anymore and have aquired a taste for other genres. People have different tastes and have different reasons for what sound they prefer, get over it.

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Originally posted by Ian^ I totally understand that, what annoys me are the masses who follow prog/breaks/house now cos it's seen as cooler music than trance and slag you off if you're not perfect like they believe themselves to be.

yup, i know exactly what you mean. i really hate that attitude of i listen to this music so im better, blah blah blah. i say just listen to what you like, even if it is cheese, because you should like the music for yourself and your liking, not because someone else likes it and it is "cool" to listen to.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller if people wanna know whats wrong with the genre today...go listen to ASOT or look at the new releases section...its all crap. every once in a while you'll get a tune that is good out of those places. this is what i got down as good from this year that i've listened to...you'll notice there isn't a bunch of ASOT crap in it because that stuff is wank... there are a couple...but those are the tracks that were actually half decent...

Why do some people have this kind of ridiculous attitude? Just because you don't personally like a particular style of music does not make it 'crap' or 'wank'. Have you never heard the phrase 'each to their own'?

Actually, the selection of tunes you posted looks superb, a lot of more proggy stuff there which is the way I've been leaning lately as well. But having said that I do also love the stuff currently coming out on ASOT, Anjuna, etc. I think a lot of it is far superior to the kind of trance that was around 2 or 3 years ago.

On the subject of the thread, I think one of the reasons for branching out into different styles is purely that your tastes mature as you get older. I've recently found myself going out to breaks, techno, and even funky house nights, which I would never have dreamt of going to a couple of years ago. It's all about getting a bit of variety as well.
But trance is still very definitely where my heart is.

why do people say trance sucks and point to asot?
do you also go rap sucks and look at MTV style mainstream rap?

not that there isn't anything good on ASOT
you have to look at the GOOD stuff and look past the bad stuff, why focus on the bad parts of a particular genre?

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Originally posted by GrimReaper Yes, "interesting" or the lack of it is most likely one point why many people have gone further away from today's trance. Most trance nowadays is just ASOT fluff style with zillion supersaws, unoriginal melodies, breakdowns buildups and typical kick drums drilling into your ears which has been done so many times before. I find the current style soo boring. Bring up some originality into trance again and i might start to fully like it again. Of course there are some exceptions but minority anyway in the huge grey masses of ASOT fluff.

What he said.

way out west - killa


trance just doesnt do it for me like that song does.....

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