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Posted by Phil r on Sep-10-2004 20:30:

another mp3 bitrate question!...

right I'm probly gonna convert FM recordings to 128, or VBR 128-192 at least

want to do another test to see if there's likely to be a noticeable change in quality

does anyone know the type of music which will show up the most difference at these bitrates?

like....quiet...or violin type sounds....or lots of high frequencies...?

cheers. !


Posted by djkoolaide on Sep-10-2004 20:38:

Jazz music definately. Try to use more modern Jazz though because old recordings obviously sound poor to begin with.


Posted by Phil r on Sep-10-2004 20:52:

kewl, have u converted your sets in this way dude?


Posted by Phil r on Sep-10-2004 21:01:

lol...well I'm trying a test on a good quality signum - second wave....can't hear any major difference....


Posted by Tranc3 on Sep-11-2004 23:55:

It's easy to hear distortions due to the bitrate in epic metal up to about 224k or so.


Posted by Phil r on Sep-12-2004 03:09:

cool info.

all my "singles" are mostly at 192, it's just the FM radio recordings, where the loss in quality is the airwaves, etc.

i can really detect very little difference between 192 and 128...sends you nuts "trying" to detect a difference


Posted by Phil r on Sep-12-2004 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
It's easy to hear distortions due to the bitrate in epic metal up to about 224k or so.


is that a tune, or a genre??


Posted by Tranc3 on Sep-12-2004 05:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Phil raa
is that a tune, or a genre??


No it's a genre......


Posted by DjSimonB on Sep-12-2004 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Phil raa

i can really detect very little difference between 192 and 128...sends you nuts "trying" to detect a difference


I find that 128k sounds crap if it's played at a decent volume, it's OK for listening and hearing what a tune sounds like but not much more IMO, then again I never used to be able to tell.


Posted by Eis on Sep-12-2004 19:08:

I'd go for 192Kbps 44KHz CBR stereo (no joint stereo) full quality lame rip...


Posted by Phil r on Sep-12-2004 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by DjSimonB
I find that 128k sounds crap if it's played at a decent volume, it's OK for listening and hearing what a tune sounds like but not much more IMO, then again I never used to be able to tell.


for an FM radio recording yeh?


Posted by tu_face on Sep-13-2004 15:02:

its all about which encoder you use.

i encode some things at 128k using cool edit pro 2, and you will find very little difference between that and 160k mp3's encoded in other things.

the main things that get fucked up with encoding is the mids and highs. again, using cool edit pro2, i can't notice any distortion on 128k.


Posted by abnorm on Sep-14-2004 08:16:

I would never tell this to people ripping CDs, but for ripping FM radio broadcast anything more then 128kbps might be an overkill.


Posted by tu_face on Sep-14-2004 10:50:

quote:
Originally posted by abnorm
I would never tell this to people ripping CDs, but for ripping FM radio broadcast anything more then 128kbps might be an overkill.


very true.

the sound quality of the signal in the first place (unless its DAB, not FM) doesn't warrant 160/192k. but however, if you encode something at 128k either with a crap program or the wrong settings, it is more likely to sound pants and to be a bit mangled


Posted by Phil r on Sep-16-2004 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
its all about which encoder you use.

i encode some things at 128k using cool edit pro 2, and you will find very little difference between that and 160k mp3's encoded in other things.

the main things that get fucked up with encoding is the mids and highs. again, using cool edit pro2, i can't notice any distortion on 128k.


They've come in a variety of original codecs... but I'll be using DOS based LAME 3.96b1

i've tried listening over and over and over again to some samples which include plinky hi hats and some speech, I'm 'hard pressed' to find a difference.....possibly only a mental difference. But not entirely sure...

when you're listening to the final mp3 though, even a minute barely-percievable difference could change it from great listening, to reasonable listening



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