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I just saw oakenfold for the first time....

and I thought everyone was being hard on him saying he sucks at djin. well, they weren't exaggerating, he was the worst dj I ahve serious ever seen.



heres some notes I made during his set (which he got on a little before 2am, and left a little after 3 am.....1 hour 20 mins max).




the top count is noticable trainwrecks....these were all out of control ones. there were 7.


the ones below that are when he plays a track until the end and then just started a new track.....that was 3 times (not including the first song of his set).



this does give me hope that I can make it big one day, cause the set I threw down today was way better than his. hehe, no flow, no transitions, a lot of people just sat around doing nothing inbetween songs.




anyways, I got hit on by a girl. she used the old 'do you have a lighter' line on me. and me being the non-smoker said negative. and that was that.


so next time someone says, well oakie was big early on and got everyone into trance, you can say well he freakin sucks ass at mixing.

Exact same thing happened when I saw him last year. Inexistent set structure, terrible track selection, and horrendous mixing.

How does one honestly justify voting for Oakenfold in the DJ Mag poll?

yea I know. Funny thing was I told a guy right when oakenfold got in the dj booth that oakie should cut his hair, and he replied that oakenfold was teh bald guy who had been djing the last 2 hours.



so apparently people have no idea who he is, rather they just know his name.

when i saw him last year he was amazing....no wrecks no stupid mixes....just top dj material

Boomer...


I LUV that avatar !!!!!!!


Excellent report. Good work

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Originally posted by Boomer187 anyways, I got hit on by a girl. she used the old 'do you have a lighter' line on me. and me being the non-smoker said negative. and that was that.

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Originally posted by armandzadza Exact same thing happened when I saw him last year. Inexistent set structure, terrible track selection, and horrendous mixing. How does one honestly justify voting for Oakenfold in the DJ Mag poll?

Whats even worse, how the hell did this guy end up being number one for 4 years or so????

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Originally posted by Pete_B Whats even worse, how the hell did this guy end up being number one for 4 years or so????

Once again pete it makes us wonder who really is in charge of this "top dj" voting.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 heres some notes I made during his set (which he got on a little before 2am, and left a little after 3 am.....1 hour 20 mins max).

oh dear

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Originally posted by davepiazza Once again pete it makes us wonder who really is in charge of this "top dj" voting.

I say we all vote for me this year

I think it's gonna have to b a big surprise if it's not Ti�sto again, viewing his good album work and the privilege to be the dj at the Olympics opening ceremony.

As for being bored at sets, it instantly makes me think of dave clarke, you wont be bored for a sec with that guy, except if u dont like techno that is His beat juggling still makes em one of the best out there for me.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 anyways, I got hit on by a girl. she used the old 'do you have a lighter' line on me. and me being the non-smoker said negative. and that was that.

Always take a lighter with you for back-up (even if you don't smoke)

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Originally posted by Boomer187 anyways, I got hit on by a girl. she used the old 'do you have a lighter' line on me. and me being the non-smoker said negative. and that was that.

Maybe she really did want a lighter, and not your cock.

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Originally posted by Pete_B Whats even worse, how the hell did this guy end up being number one for 4 years or so????

Everything he has done for dance music perhaps? Discovered Ibiza? Started Perfecto? First DJ to open for a band, let alone U2?? Essential mixes for over ten years now?? Do i need to continue? He talks about giving up Trance DJing, as he says he has done it all... fair enough, he has! No one else can claim that. Man is a legend. Mixing might be getting worse due to ear-wear, but still, a legend. Check out Perfecto:Flouro or his 94 Goa set... or see how his Creamfields 2004 mix comp is praised as one of the best comps this year.

G

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Originally posted by Kris G Everything he has done for dance music perhaps? Discovered Ibiza? Started Perfecto? First DJ to open for a band, let alone U2?? Essential mixes for over ten years now?? Do i need to continue? He talks about giving up Trance DJing, as he says he has done it all... fair enough, he has! No one else can claim that. Man is a legend. Mixing might be getting worse due to ear-wear, but still, a legend. Check out Perfecto:Flouro or his 94 Goa set... or see how his Creamfields 2004 mix comp is praised as one of the best comps this year. G

Ear-wear my ass! He doesn't play out half as much as many other DJ's. Look at Jules and Tong - Tongy particularly, he's been DJing since his teenage years, and is now late 40's, yet he still has great skills despite the old 'DJ Deafness'.

Perfecto isn't any better than other labels, and he didn't single handedly discover ibiza - he was just in the limelight when it happend. Again, most of the other stuff would still of happend anyway by somebody else.

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Originally posted by Kris G Everything he has done for dance music perhaps? Discovered Ibiza? Started Perfecto? First DJ to open for a band, let alone U2?? Essential mixes for over ten years now?? Do i need to continue? He talks about giving up Trance DJing, as he says he has done it all... fair enough, he has! No one else can claim that. Man is a legend. Mixing might be getting worse due to ear-wear, but still, a legend. Check out Perfecto:Flouro or his 94 Goa set... or see how his Creamfields 2004 mix comp is praised as one of the best comps this year. G

oakenfold 'discovered ibiza' ? wtf - is he like some sort of explorer. Im guessing the ancestors of the people who live on the island actually discovered it.

started perfecto? great - you can never have too many tracks like PPK Resurrection. Or re hashes of old stuff (prophet 1)

essential mixes for over ten years - so hes friends with Pete Tong and the people at radio 1? big achievement. His world tour essential mixes (which fans will always point to being the best) are just a collection of the biggest anthems every time.

You actually listened to his goa mix? A lot of people spout on about it but very few people have heard it. Its rubbish.

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Originally posted by davidclarke oakenfold 'discovered ibiza' ? wtf - is he like some sort of explorer.

BRILLIANT MATE!!!

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Originally posted by Boomer187 so next time someone says, well oakie was big early on and got everyone into trance, you can say well he freakin sucks ass at mixing.

he doesnt suck at mixing... he just doesnt care. i mean, he's been in the business for so long, it doesnt really matter anymore. its like, "oh hell, im getting my $40,000 either way so it doesnt matter." and since his name is so well know, he will just keep getting booked, no matter how little he gives a shit.

Jeez, �40k makes me sick. If only I could get that much for just 1 gig - once only

Yep, what D-res said

So shouldn't we all stop going to his shows?
...(he's only been around here once and I couldn't go)

You lot are either all really, really jealous or really lame... take your pick.

When i see you guys doing one Essential mix, i'll give you credit. Two, i'll be amazed. Ten years worth... keep dreaming.

Oh, and also, Oakenfold came back to the UK from Ibiza in '88 or so and started a club night playing the same music he heard and was inspired by in Ibiza... and now look at the UK club scene. Have some respect for your elders.

Without Oakenfold undoubtedly the Trance scene would not be the same. Armin lists Oakey as a main inspiration, read the inlay to ASOT 2004 and you'll see. Plus Armin says one of his favourite producers ever was 'Man with no Name'... gee, guess what label a lot of his productions come out on? Perfecto was around a 'tiny' bit before PPK... Just to let you know.

Tiesto playing Street Spirit? Oakey was playing a dance mix of that track first. Adagio for Strings? Oakey was playing the original in 96. Do i need to continue? I think i'll let you continue on now. I've made my point and will always stand by it.

G

he's come to wisconsin once and i saw it.... it wass fun and full of energy. in fact it kicked ass. maybe one trainwreck. i suppose the only reason i really liked it though is cause im too young to get into clubs or any type of big venue, so this was a big opportunity....

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Originally posted by davidclarke oakenfold 'discovered ibiza' ? wtf - is he like some sort of explorer. Im guessing the ancestors of the people who live on the island actually discovered it. started perfecto? great - you can never have too many tracks like PPK Resurrection. Or re hashes of old stuff (prophet 1) essential mixes for over ten years - so hes friends with Pete Tong and the people at radio 1? big achievement. His world tour essential mixes (which fans will always point to being the best) are just a collection of the biggest anthems every time. You actually listened to his goa mix? A lot of people spout on about it but very few people have heard it. Its rubbish.

I have two or three of his goa sets, and they're ok, I'll admit. Nothing special. But some of his other essential mixes are damn good. He has never been the most solid technically, and deserves all of the negative feedback he gets for that. I heard him run out of record at Space in Miami, throw a beat in, and try speeding the record at the end of a phrase to add a build effect, but it was garbage. But his record selection, if not good now, used to be phenomenal. He played all of the dope tracks, and they were tracks that not everyone had. I like to compare him to Tiesto as a dj. Great tracks, mixing's wack. But the things he has done as a producer (not writing tracks, those suck) are immeasurable. He did elevate trance and the whole EDM scene. He also discovered rappers, bands, etc. He discovered Hernan Cattaneo, who is amazing. He may not be the best dj, but people out there that aren't dj's or aren't ultra savy, don't hear a lot of his mistakes. He covers up the really bad flaws, but it is embarrasing when you know what is going on. His off the decks accomplishments are definitely bigger.

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Originally posted by D-res he doesnt suck at mixing... he just doesnt care. i mean, he's been in the business for so long, it doesnt really matter anymore. its like, "oh hell, im getting my $40,000 either way so it doesnt matter." and since his name is so well know, he will just keep getting booked, no matter how little he gives a shit.

not caring equates into sucking for me. Who wants to see a dj that doesn't care. I had to see him mainly because I have not seen him before, and I doubt I will ever go see him again.



Yes he did get a lot going for trance....however the past is past, the future is now. Its kinda like micheal jordan, he pwned basketball for a while and did great things for it, but even he finally retired from playing.


Likewise I wouldn't mind if oakenfold stepped back from djin and kept producing. But that is just me and I know that don't mean shit.


*edit**oh yea, since you guys are bringing up his sets and cds....another world pwned me for years....I still ove listening to thsoe cds.




and forget carrying a lighter, a girl has to be more creative when picking me up than the ol lighter trick. ankle me or something.

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Originally posted by Kris G You lot are either all really, really jealous or really lame... take your pick. When i see you guys doing one Essential mix, i'll give you credit. Two, i'll be amazed. Ten years worth... keep dreaming. Oh, and also, Oakenfold came back to the UK from Ibiza in '88 or so and started a club night playing the same music he heard and was inspired by in Ibiza... and now look at the UK club scene. Have some respect for your elders. Without Oakenfold undoubtedly the Trance scene would not be the same. Armin lists Oakey as a main inspiration, read the inlay to ASOT 2004 and you'll see. Plus Armin says one of his favourite producers ever was 'Man with no Name'... gee, guess what label a lot of his productions come out on? Perfecto was around a 'tiny' bit before PPK... Just to let you know. Tiesto playing Street Spirit? Oakey was playing a dance mix of that track first. Adagio for Strings? Oakey was playing the original in 96. Do i need to continue? I think i'll let you continue on now. I've made my point and will always stand by it. G

1. All Oakey has helped to do, is to make 'trance' or 'dance' commercial and a way to make money. He is a very rich man, who I hope has a guilty conscience.

2. Why is it important what Armin thinks? He is a terrible example.

3. I agree with one point however when you say that 'Trance' would not be the same without Oakenfold - if it hadnt been for him then maybe the genre would still have some credibility.

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