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Is being a trance producer viable?

Hey I want to know if you can make a living by being a trance producer only, and I dont mean like Paul Van Dyk, I mean a producer who is new on the scenes. Also who can you sell your music to (which radio stations / recording companies etc) and how much do they pay you? does anyone know?

thanks.

I doubt you'd be able to make a living out of it, there just isn't enough money in the scene.

If that's the first question you ask when beginning then I'd take a deep look into your motives of coming a producer in the first place.

You'd have to be pretty damn prolific to make a living off of it. I got my first deal a couple of months ago, and won't see my first dime until sometime next year. When I do see that dime, there won't be too many others can come along with it =P

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery If that's the first question you ask when beginning then I'd take a deep look into your motives of coming a producer in the first place.

i don't think he wants to start or is busy with producing because of this question.

but maybe he wants to go fulltime, like quit his job or school etc.

if thats the thing, i suggest you keep working or studying, unless you own a good label or your a big DJ, then no.

I agree with Massive84's sentiments - if you're wanting to get into full-time music production, first make sure you have something to fall back on should things not go your way. Increasingly, though not always, being signed to a record label is down to luck rather than actual talent. Besides, you're doing it for fun, aren't you? (Gotta love how retarded that smiley is.)

no. its more of a hobby

keep it as a hobby and nothing else because the truth is that there aint many tranceproducers theese days that can make a living out of it.

most of the big guys like avb, tiesto and so on make their money on dj gigs and not on their productions.

the real money come from playing in parties

be a famous dj, play on famous parties, get more money.

thats kinda how (i think) its work

Re: Is being a trance producer viable?

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Originally posted by trancey_spacer Hey I want to know if you can make a living by being a trance producer only, and I dont mean like Paul Van Dyk, I mean a producer who is new on the scenes.

No. I think the best example of this is Ralphie B. When 'Massive' was released it was very popular, it sold well, yet he's working full-time in another job.

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Originally posted by Massive84 but maybe he wants to go fulltime, like quit his job or school etc.

yeh this is exactly the thing...does anyone know how much you'd get per release? I want to know whether to keep it a hobby or get more serious...

its not like they say "we will give u this much for this tune!" it depends how well u sell, could make a few hundred, could make a few thousand. if u havnt even started producing yet, then its definately not a viable career route. u need a back up, u wont live off producing trance.

At least need a lot of people buying your tracks, so then you'll probably end up in pop commercial scene, cause there's where the buying people are.... It's pretty hard to create trance for that scene..

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Originally posted by Jay M It's pretty hard to create trance for that scene..

Actually it's pretty easy. Just take an old cheesy 80s tune, pick a random girl on the street to sing it for you, come out with a really simple boom-tssh-clap-tssh groove & an offbeat bassline, recreate the chords and add a supersaw riff on it. Send it to the right people & the kids will go crazy, AATW will sign you instantly and it will be licensed to the forthcoming Clubland album & various clones.

lol, absolutely!

or you could just make some rnb

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery If that's the first question you ask when beginning then I'd take a deep look into your motives of coming a producer in the first place.

Quit trying to sound like you're a purist.

The music is about the money, regardless of what anyone says. You can be as "I don't want to get rich making music," as you want to be until someone throws a fat paycheck your way for something you produced. All of a sudden, your motives will change.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle its not like they say "we will give u this much for this tune!" it depends how well u sell, could make a few hundred, could make a few thousand.

that's actually not 100% true

different labels aproach this different.
know a few people that has gotten one big ammount for a signed track and then they will get a percentage of the sales like 2 years after it's been released.

but considering that a person will at the most have one really big release every month you can still not live on it, just to little cash in it.

I say keep it as a hobby, that will probably prevent ya from getting tired at producing after a year

people who do it for money, usually make 1 track and disappear, otherwsie they might make 3 or something, but the bottom line they really suck and dont diserve shit if theyre doing it for the money
back in 1999 garunteed it wasnt for the money, it was for the love of it, but now all these stupid songs coming out, never heard such trash in my life, garunteed its all for money, these one time producers with their 15 minutes of fame, all $$$$, so dont try to be one of them, like most said here, keep it as a hobby, if u dont find it interesting then dont do it
simple
peace out

word sunquest!

as long as I can make the people I know happy with my music then anything else is just a big plus

remember that it's supposed to be something you do because you love it and think it is fun, not something you do because you think you can make a few extra $$.

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Originally posted by Vizay that's actually not 100% true different labels aproach this different. know a few people that has gotten one big ammount for a signed track and then they will get a percentage of the sales like 2 years after it's been released. but considering that a person will at the most have one really big release every month you can still not live on it, just to little cash in it. I say keep it as a hobby, that will probably prevent ya from getting tired at producing after a year

As far as i know, people are very rarely given a sum of money before anything is even sold, in THIS part of the industry (i cant remember what its called)...If you are a successful comercial producer then maybe... but labels cant afford to "buy" trance tunes like ours because of the risk that they wont do well i wouldnt have thoguht, ive certainly not come across it in the trance scene anyway. But who knows

For fucks sake why are people still posting in here? lol why am i posting in here? Its not even a question that should have been asked in the first place. specially not in a forum devoted to trance ADDICTS who are in it for the music and nothing else, its almost insulting that people think we are in itfor the money

umm...can you name some companies? Is Birchwood Music one?

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Quit trying to sound like you're a purist. The music is about the money, regardless of what anyone says. You can be as "I don't want to get rich making music," as you want to be until someone throws a fat paycheck your way for something you produced. All of a sudden, your motives will change.

Yeah, good thing you got my point

If the very first thing you wonder about when beginning to make music (even BEFORE you actually know how) is whether you'll make a living on it or not then you should seriously reconsider your motives in starting music making in the first place. Music should come from the heart. Do you honestly think the big players do it only for the money? No, they do it for the love of music. The money is a byproduct.

If money is the first (and only) thing you think of you'll become the next DJ Sammy. Sure, you'll make shitloads of money but that's basically whoring yourself.

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What I mean is that I've got nothing against making money. Hell, if someone gave me money for my tracks I'd take it. But it shouldn't be the first thing you think of.

as mystery said, the money will always be a nice bonus, of course no one would turn them down.

but to even get to the point when you can make money of your music I think you need to have a big passion for musicproduction. It's just not enough to say that your'e gonna study music 8hours a day 7 days a week. it will probably sound good but the music won't have any soul.

Nuff Sed

yeh its a hobby, but i'm curious as to how much I could get if I became serious coz the equipment is pretty expensive - we arent all made of money you know...so for the benefit of the not-so-loaded people dyu think you could make enough money from your first release or two to cover the cost of the equipment / software?

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