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2ND Durg Test!!!!

Tuesday was my 1st drug test for my job and i was scared to death cause i smoked weed almsot everday till the 30th of Aug. I went out and bought all these stuff that would let you pass the drug test and Today they called me saying that " You have a lot of water in your system" come back in and take another drug test!!! im worried cause im going straight to the hospital this time. We had a uriun test 1st time i hope its not anthign else like hair sample or blood test. Anyone has done a drug test and didnt fail nor pass that the company made u take another one? What should i do? i mean i have to take the test but wut should i be expecting? anyone?

Face the music.

Or hide untainted urine somewhere else on your body?

Maybe you should stop doing drugs?...



















heh.

i smoke weed all the time, my parents have drug tested me tons. it's never shown up that i've done anything.

btw your scentance structure is pretty bad, i know im not the best at spelling in posts eather, but you just dont make sense sometimes.
....and unlike me, smoking weed has fried your brain.

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Originally posted by twisted420 btw your scentance structure is pretty bad, i know im not the best at spelling in posts eather, but you just dont make sense sometimes. ....and unlike me, smoking weed has fried your brain.

Yeah, thank god weed hasn't fried your brain.

And I don't think english is his first language, what's your excuse?

sorry this is the internet i really dont mind bout my grammar or spelling as long as someone understands it. after all this aint no english 101 my friend.

Perhaps consider working for a company that doesn't have fascist policies.

Drug tests really piss me off. What people do on the weekend is up to them. Your employer doesn't have the right to tell you what to do in your free time, regardless of legality.

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Originally posted by bluerose What people do on the weekend is up to them. Your employer doesn't have the right to tell you what to do in your free time, regardless of legality.

You're correct, but they do have the right to refuse people a job or terminate a contract based on those weekend habits...

...unless you have a job like mine where you haul around 300 people around the skies during the day in a pressurized tube. I'm sure it would be great for you to hear "oh yeah, your relatives were killed in the plane crash...yeah..uhh...the pilots were still doped up on coke and smack from the weekend...we let them do what they want in their spare time...but by golly...sure glad we don't do drug tests, because that's just not right"....pffft...I know my profession is the extreme (anything to do with transportation)..but it's the norm now.


If you are so worried about drug tests you better find a place that doesn't require them, or become self employed. More and more companies are becoming drug free for simple facts. They are covering their asses from possible law suits stemming from all possible angles, including drugs. They have every right to do this, because they are the employer and can hire who they want and what qualifications they need. After all they ARE paying your salary and benefits...you follow their rules. The last thing in todays work place a company wants is for people to fuck up the lives of their co-workers and customers. Drug tests, 10 year criminal/background checks, are simply the norm these days on top of previous experience and education.

They don't have the right to tell you what to do in your free time...They do have the right to make sure the after effects are not carried over into the workplace.

Good luck

Yeah, did 20+ years in military and not afraid to hold up a gallon of my latest urine for testing at any moment. Just have to learn to adapt; alcohol is OK (but not on duty), drugs are bad anytime. I'm a conformist. Might not have to test at all if you take a low paying menial labor job though, like mowing lawns or trimming shrubs.

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btw your scentance structure is pretty bad

child rapist by weekend, school teacher by weekday?


hair test = owned haha

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Originally posted by bluerose Perhaps consider working for a company that doesn't have fascist policies. Drug tests really piss me off. What people do on the weekend is up to them. Your employer doesn't have the right to tell you what to do in your free time, regardless of legality.

I can see that you're a teenager. Or in your early twenties and just a bit immature.

Drugs fuck up your mind and your body. They impede your ability to work, socialize, and otherwise function like a normal human being. Period. There is no way to debate these points and come out on top.

That is why companies require drug tests. Especially companies that hire mostly young adults. (Best Buy, grocery stores, etc.)

Phlotron:

Of course, if you're a commercial pilot, it would be wise to stay away from drugs. Notice that I didn't say that companies don't have a right to fire you if you are under the influence. But drug tests don't check if you're under the influence, they check if you have done drugs recently.



wwu.punisher:

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher I can see that you're a teenager. Or in your early twenties and just a bit immature.

Wrong. I'm in my late twenties and have several degrees.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Drugs fuck up your mind and your body. They impede your ability to work, socialize, and otherwise function like a normal human being. Period. There is no way to debate these points and come out on top.

These are bold statements to make, my friend. Did you know that alcohol is a drug? And caffeine? Nicotine? Saying all drugs are equal in effect and intensity is fallacious. Indeed, it is impossible to "debate" such a ridiculous assumption.

It seems to me like you don't have much life experience. Maybe you should join the real world, take the blinders off, and you'll see that there is very little in this world that is black and white, including the drug experience.

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Originally posted by bluerose Phlotron: Of course, if you're a commercial pilot, it would be wise to stay away from drugs. Notice that I didn't say that companies don't have a right to fire you if you are under the influence. But drug tests don't check if you're under the influence, they check if you have done drugs recently.

And if those drugs are still in your system, you may still be influenced by them...or have worked during a period while under that influence. It is simply unacceptable and intollerable and a serious liability...Like I say "Gee...bummer your kids were on that bus...I know, I know...the Kinko's Manager that was in the oncoming vehicle was toked up over the weekend...but I'm 'sure' he was ok though..." ... They may have been ok to drive...or not under the influence...but the liability that they may have been under and influence or have been in the recent past (no matter how little...is grounds for big trouble. It is why they call it Zero Tollerance.

Where do you draw the line on where it is wise not to take drugs (w/in that timeframe it takes to flush from your system..even if it's weeks) to where it's "acceptable"...A different kind of transportation worker, a machine laborer...a mechanic, an engineer, a manager, a teacher a box boy, a custodian...???

Sorry, if I was an employer, I wouldn't want this [type of employee] in my environment, no matter the type of job, simply due to the liability that comes with it.

It's funny that you bring up caffiene, nicotine and alcohol as drugs as well...because you are right...they are...and they DO affect your body and can affect your performance and judgement...it's why alcohol is not allowed for periods of time before work in many places, it's why smoking is frowned upon, and does disqualify some people from certain jobs, and caffeine can have harmful side effects if taken inappropriately. They may not have equal effects or be illegal in all cases....but like any drug...some are usable and still allow you to work while others aren't allowed...There rules are there for a reason and should be followed. Even with minor substances like these based on the different industries. My industry might be the most restrictive...I can't even take sudafed...but there are restrictions all the way down to the guy that has to clean the crapper I used earlier today.


Like I say...if you want a job that doesn't have restrictions...look for one with out tests, or become self employed, but don't cry foul to any employer that has a drug testing/tollerance program.

Shave (wax) off your hair and use clean urine.

EDIT: Still, punisher is right about drugs. Most of them, if not all, fuck you up. Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine do it too if you "eat" enough.

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Originally posted by PhloTron ...unless you have a job like mine where you haul around 300 people around the skies during the day in a pressurized tube.

Man I've done coke and meth and I think I'd rather the pilot of the plane be on them than sober. Well maybe not coke because he will start thinking he is god, but I'd rather have the pilot wide awake and alert on some glass on a 24 hour flight to Asia than half asleep because he has only got a few hours rest.

Hey, if amphetamines are good enough for US Air Force pilots, they should be good enough for commercial pilots. Plus I cannot tell you how many times I have driven somewhere all night where I would have been a danger to other drivers on the road if it wasnt for the glass.

Back on topic, dude just do exactly what you did last time. If your urine has a lot of water in it again the will do one of two things:
1. Not give you the job thinking you are hiding something
2. Figure you just have watery urine and that will be that

Oh and take some vitamin B-12, it will give you the yellow color even if you are drinking a ton of water.

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Originally posted by PhloTron And if those drugs are still in your system, you may still be influenced by them...or have worked during a period while under that influence. It is simply unacceptable and intollerable and a serious liability...Like I say "Gee...bummer your kids were on that bus...I know, I know...the Kinko's Manager that was in the oncoming vehicle was toked up over the weekend...but I'm 'sure' he was ok though..." ... They may have been ok to drive...or not under the influence...but the liability that they may have been under and influence or have been in the recent past (no matter how little...is grounds for big trouble. It is why they call it Zero Tollerance.

Let me clarify, I'm all for drug testing commercial pilots. I'm glad you can't take a sudafed before flight. But let me assure you, if that Kinko's manager was "toked up" over the weekend that had nothing to do with the accident that happened a couple of days later.

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Originally posted by PhloTron Where do you draw the line on where it is wise not to take drugs (w/in that timeframe it takes to flush from your system..even if it's weeks) to where it's "acceptable"...A different kind of transportation worker, a machine laborer...a mechanic, an engineer, a manager, a teacher a box boy, a custodian...??? Sorry, if I was an employer, I wouldn't want this [type of employee] in my environment, no matter the type of job, simply due to the liability that comes with it.

What 'liability' is there when a janitor smokes marijuana on the weekends? Can you tell me that there is more liability than if he is hungover? Yet a drug test would fire employees that smoked marijuana occasionally, and would pass the chronic alcoholic.

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Originally posted by PhloTron It's funny that you bring up caffiene, nicotine and alcohol as drugs as well...because you are right...they are...and they DO affect your body and can affect your performance and judgement...it's why alcohol is not allowed for periods of time before work in many places, it's why smoking is frowned upon, and does disqualify some people from certain jobs, and caffeine can have harmful side effects if taken inappropriately. They may not have equal effects or be illegal in all cases....but like any drug...some are usable and still allow you to work while others aren't allowed...There rules are there for a reason and should be followed. Even with minor substances like these based on the different industries. My industry might be the most restrictive...I can't even take sudafed...but there are restrictions all the way down to the guy that has to clean the crapper I used earlier today. Like I say...if you want a job that doesn't have restrictions...look for one with out tests, or become self employed, but don't cry foul to any employer that has a drug testing/tollerance program.

That's why I recommended to the original poster to not work for such an employer. It is my right to view such policies as a gross invasion of privacy, just as it is an employer's 'right' to invade my privacy. I'm certainly entitled to think that drug testing is wrong in a majority of cases. I could care less if the guy bagging my groceries was shooting heroin all weekend, or if my waitress went to a party and did e a couple of weeks ago, or if an executive smokes pot every night, because it's none of my fucking business.

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