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Kinkos is the Source of CBS (Headlines Tomorrow)

Washington POST for tomorrow will report this:

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Records Reportedly Faxed From Abilene By Michael Dobbs Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, September 16, 2004; Page A06 Documents allegedly written by a deceased officer that raised questions about President Bush's service with the Texas Air National Guard bore markings showing they had been faxed to CBS News from a Kinko's copy shop in Abilene, Tex., according to another former Guard officer who was shown the records by the network. The markings provide one piece of evidence suggesting a source for the documents, whose authenticity has been hotly disputed since CBS aired them in a "60 Minutes" broadcast Sept. 8. The network has declined to name the person who provided them, saying the source was confidential, or to explain how the documents came to light after more than three decades.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A24635-2004Sep15.html
http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerryspot.asp

http://kmclive.com/




lol from kinkos

hehehe... your enjoying ever moment on this CBS scandal arent you? hehe..

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Originally posted by LiquidX hehehe... your enjoying ever moment on this CBS scandal arent you? hehe..

LOL yea I dont want to talk about Iraq because its definitely not pretty over there right now

I'm going with the double agent theory. Here is how it goes...

1) A piece of shit republican makes the documents.
2) The documents are released and it makes Mr. Bush look like bad.
3) The documents are found to be fakes.
4) Mr. Kerry looks bad because someone from his side made fake doc's and the Bush camp looks like heroes.

Note: No matter if these doc's are fake or real does not take away the fact that Bush sucks nor does it take away the fact that Kerry might suck the same amount. Lets quit the campaign year mud slinging and lets talk about the real issues like how is my president going to stop a nuke going off in the US.

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec LOL yea I dont want to talk about Iraq because its definitely not pretty over there right now

That is what I would expect from a Republican. Lets not talk about the biggest thing/mess the Bush team has done since they came to office.

Wake up! you were lied to.

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Originally posted by LiquidX hehehe... your enjoying ever moment on this CBS scandal arent you? hehe..

many of us are - this is a great thing for Republicans and a big bullet for the Kerry campaign...

>JM<

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Originally posted by JM many of us are - this is a great thing for Republicans and a big bullet for the Kerry campaign... >JM<

What does all this have to do with Bush and his ability to run this company.....I mean country? How does this make Kerry look so bad and Bush look so good? WHO CARES!?!?!?

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Originally posted by hooknife I'm going with the double agent theory. Here is how it goes... 1) A piece of shit republican makes the documents.

It looks like the Kinko's is about 20 miles, straight shot, from the home of Bill Burkett - the Bush-hater who many have surmised is the real source of the docs.

Latest news tonight is that Rather is questioning the documents too: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2004Sep15.html

Sometimes you have to feel sorry for the Kerry team. It seems they can't even score a hit on Bush with fake documents, much less real ones.

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Originally posted by imokruok It looks like the Kinko's is about 20 miles, straight shot, from the home of Bill Burkett - the Bush-hater who many have surmised is the real source of the docs. Latest news tonight is that Rather is questioning the documents too: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2004Sep15.html Sometimes you have to feel sorry for the Kerry team. It seems they can't even score a hit on Bush with fake documents, much less real ones.

If this stuff matters to you then you must not have gotten through 6th grade. Like I said above, lets talk about some real issues like nukes, Iraq, N. Korea, or jobs. Oh well, you go vote in Nov. and I'll do the same.

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Originally posted by hooknife If this stuff matters to you then you must not have gotten through 6th grade. Like I said above, lets talk about some real issues like nukes, Iraq, N. Korea, or jobs.

Can't follow two/three/four/five stories at once? Man, that must suck.

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Originally posted by hooknife I'm going with the double agent theory. Here is how it goes... 1) A piece of shit republican makes the documents.

big hole in theory: why is CBS protecting its source?

and you right this shouldn't be about the candidates. no one is saying this is.

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Originally posted by Q5echo big hole in theory: why is CBS protecting its source? and you right this shouldn't be about the candidates. no one is saying this is.

It's common for journalists to protect their sources. Does Bob Woodward and Deep Throat ring a bell?


http://dailybeacon.utk.edu/article.php/12017

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/medi...ooper_8-11.html

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Originally posted by Trancer-X It's common for journalists to protect their sources. Does Bob Woodward and Deep Throat ring a bell? http://dailybeacon.utk.edu/article.php/12017 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/medi...ooper_8-11.html

You're right. The media voraciously protect their own. Dan Rather is a case & point. However, if Deep Throat's information was proven to be fraudulent and Bob Woodward went on to publish it and it came back to bite him in the ass, either Woodward would be liable or he'd have to give up his source. Lucky for him, his source actually had credible information, unlike the whole CBS fiasco.

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Originally posted by Shakka You're right. The media voraciously protect their own. Dan Rather is a case & point. However, if Deep Throat's information was proven to be fraudulent and Bob Woodward went on to publish it and it came back to bite him in the ass, either Woodward would be liable or he'd have to give up his source. Lucky for him, his source actually had credible information, unlike the whole CBS fiasco.

Good point!

Pentagon is forcing for the release of the records.. I guess some of you have stepped into the news, I would post link but im in some sort of a hurry.. lets see what happens.

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Originally posted by LiquidX Pentagon is forcing for the release of the records.. I guess some of you have stepped into the news, I would post link but im in some sort of a hurry.. lets see what happens.

I wouldn't hold your breath. The White House and Pentagon have both stated on 2 different occasions that all records have been released, only to find more records somehow hidden underneath a bed or something.

Keep in mind that Bush's records were moved from a storage center in St. Louis, MO to the Pentagon. Only the President himself or the Pentagon are authorized to move the records. So the question that follows is - well gee, why did they feel it necessary to move them?:

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President Bush's military records are removed from local storage center 07:47 AM CST on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 Overland (KMOV) � There is a St. Louis connection to the controversy surrounding President George Bush�s National Guard records. For more than three decades those records have been locked away at the Federal Military Records Center in Overland. The center director tells News 4 that the records were removed from a vault at that facility just a few days ago and sent to the National Guard headquarters at the Pentagon in Washington. The records are at the heart of allegations that Bush did not report for service with the Air National Guard in 1972. Bush says he served in an Alabama unit, but the Boston Globe is reporting that there are no records to prove it. The president defended his record during a weekend interview with NBC. �There may be no evidence but I did report, otherwise I wouldn't have been honorably discharged," he said. Those files may contain rosters and sign in sheets indicating his service. President Bush told NBC he would authorize the release of some documents to show he did serve in Alabama. http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stori...ds.7909d13.html

But now we have a judge ordering the fucking Pentagon to stop playing these stupid fucking hide and seek games with his records. You really think Rumsfeld and the Pentagon are goin' to expose their Commander in Chief?

Riiiight.

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September 17, 2004 Judge Orders U.S. to Find Bush Records By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 12:28 a.m. ET WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush's Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press. U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order late Wednesday in New York. The AP lawsuit already has led to the disclosure of previously unreleased flight logs from Bush's days piloting F-102A fighters and other jets. Pentagon officials told Baer they plan to have their search complete by Monday. Baer ordered the Pentagon to hand over the records to the AP by Sept. 24 and provide a written statement by Sept. 29 detailing the search for more records. ``We're hopeful the Department of Defense will provide a full accounting of the steps it has taken, as the judge ordered, so the public can have some assurance that there are no documents being withheld,'' said AP lawyer David Schulz. White House officials have said Bush ordered the Pentagon earlier this year to conduct a thorough search for the president's records, and officials allowed reporters to review everything that was gathered back in February. Through a series of requests under the federal open records law and a subsequent suit, the AP uncovered the flight logs, which were not part of the records the White House released earlier this year. Both Bush's and John Kerry's service records in Vietnam have become a major issue in the presidential race. New records that have surfaced in recent weeks have raised more questions. Bush's critics say Bush got preferential treatment as the son of a congressman and U.N. ambassador. Critics also question why Bush skipped a required medical examination in 1972 and failed to show up for drills during a six-month period that year. Bush has repeatedly said he fulfilled all of his Air National Guard obligations. The future president joined the Texas Air National Guard in 1968, when he graduated from Yale. He spent more than a year on active duty learning how to fly and then mostly flew in the one-seat F-102A fighters until April 1972. The pilot logs show a shift to flights in two-seat trainer jets in March 1972, shortly before Bush quit flying. Former Air National Guard officials say that could have been because F-102A jets were not available for Bush to fly or because of other reasons, such as concerns about Bush's flight performance. Bush skipped his required yearly medical exam in 1972 in the months after he stopped flying in April. Bush has said he moved to Alabama to work on the unsuccessful Senate campaign of a family friend. Bush never showed up for Guard service between late April and mid-October 1972. He won approval to train with an Alabama Air National Guard unit during September, October and November 1972, but more than a dozen members of the unit at that time say they never saw him there. The only direct record of Bush appearing at the Alabama unit's base is a January 1973 dental exam performed at that base. Bush's Texas commanders wrote in May 1973 they never saw him between May 1972 and April 1973, a time when his pay records show he trained on 14 days. Although military regulations allowed commanders to order two years of active duty for guardsmen who missed more than three straight months of drills, that never happened to Bush. Commanders had leeway at the time to allow guardsmen to make up for missed drills. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nat...rd-Records.html

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