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huh?
I'm convinced!
Not sure what happened there, but here it is:
Scamming the Media, Parlock Style
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Friday 17 September 2004
Meet Phil Parlock. Parlock is a family man and a staunch Republican. Parlock has a very sad story to tell about how rotten Kerry supporters are. You see, they made his little girl cry.
Parlock, his weeping daughter, and the fiendish union guy holding a piece of the allegedly ripped sign.
Parlock was at a rally on Thursday to greet Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards, who was on a swing through West Virginia and Ohio. Parlock brought his three children and a Bush/Cheney sign to show support for his beloved President. According to him, a Kerry-supporting union guy wearing an IUPAT shirt ripped up the Bush sign his little girl was carrying, making her cry.
Terrible, right? A sign that our national politics have descended into these kind of brutish tactics, right? An embarrassing incident for the Kerry campaign, right? The media certainly thinks so, and has dutifully reported on the incident.
For the third time.
A report from the Charleston Daily Mail, August 27, 1996:
"The Huntington man said he was knocked to the ground by a Clinton supporter when he tried to display a sign that read 'Remember Vince Foster,' the deputy White House counsel who committed suicide in a Washington, D.C., park. His death has become the subject of much debate among Clinton opponents...Parlock said some of the crowd tried to make other anti-Clinton demonstrators feel unwelcome. He estimated that about 150 Dole supporters attended the rally, but their signs couldn't be seen for most of the rally."
A report from the Charleston Daily Mail, August 27, 1996:
"The Huntington man said he was knocked to the ground by a Clinton supporter when he tried to display a sign that read 'Remember Vince Foster,' the deputy White House counsel who committed suicide in a Washington, D.C., park. His death has become the subject of much debate among Clinton opponents...Parlock said some of the crowd tried to make other anti-Clinton demonstrators feel unwelcome. He estimated that about 150 Dole supporters attended the rally, but their signs couldn't be seen for most of the rally."
A report from the Charleston Daily Mail, October 28, 2000:
Phil Parlock didn't expect to need all 12 of the Bush-Cheney signs he and his son Louis smuggled in their socks and pockets into the rally for Vice President Al Gore. But each time they raised a sign, someone would grab it out of their hands, the two Huntington residents said. And sometimes it got physical. 'I expected some people to take our signs,' said Louis, 12. 'But I did not expect people to practically attack us.' The two said they didn't go to the Friday morning rally to start trouble."
For the third Presidential election in a row, poor Phil Parlock has been abused by terrible Democrats while trying to support the Republican candidate, and while trying to introduce his children to the art of retail politics. Is this just a string of bad luck for Phil?
I doubt it. It seems a great deal more certain that Mr. Parlock is a serial disruptor who has managed to convinced the easily-duped mainstream media on three separate occasions that he was attacked by Democrats. Only a truly hard-core fanatic would pull a stunt like this, and Parlock certainly appears to fit the bill.
Note the fact that he was holding a "Remember Vince Foster" sign at the first incident in 1996. Parlock, it seems, is of that particular fringe school of thought which believes Hillary Clinton had Foster whacked as a part of her grandiose evil scheming. Believers in this particular conspiracy theory are not known for their balanced view of American politics. They see the Clinton family as a pack of remorseless murderers, and therefore feel compelled to do whatever they can to thwart them.
Take a look at the sprightly Parlock family, posing beside a giant military vehicle:
Take a long look at the young man in the gray shirt, and then take another look at the alleged union guy who tore up the sign. Am I the only one who sees a striking resemblance?
It appears we have a clever fellow here who has convinced the same Charleston newspaper three different times that he was victimized by Democrats at rallies. He does not seem to have any problem with involving his own children in the game, and may have even gone so far as to have one of his sons play the role of 'Democrat Attacker.'
This would be funny, in a sad sort of way, but for two things.
First, this is how campaigns get mired in utterly mindless trivialities. Instead of discussing the upswell of catastrophic violence in Iraq, we get to hear about poor Phil and his crying daughter. There are important matters to discuss, matters central to the future of the country, but media tricks like this blow the whole show off-track. That's bad.
The second reason this isn't so funny happened two weeks ago. A gathering of Republicans at the local GOP headquarters got a nasty scare when someone fired a bullet at the building. About two dozen people were there to watch the Republican Convention in New York when a single shot hit the window.
Dee Delancy of WCHS news in Charleston reported on the incident, and interviewed several people who were there. One of them was Phil Parlock, who said, "I think this is definitely, definitely an act that was by an extremist kind of thing."
Parlock was there.
This could all be a series of strange coincidences. Parlock could simply be an unlucky guy who always seems to be around when Democrats do something wretched, who took abuse in 1996, 2000 and 2004 for supporting Republicans, who happened to have the same newspaper on hand to report his story each time, and who also happened to be on the scene of a shooting incident that made Democrats look like frightening would-be assassins.
This could be a series of coincidences, but someone should take a long look at this fellow regardless. Manufacturing a few sign-ripping incidents isn't a terribly big deal. But he appears to be hell-bent on making Democrats look like thugs, and there has been a shooting incident involving him on top of everything else. The media, which may well have been repeatedly scammed by Parlock, might want to do some further checking.
Author's note: The manner in which this story came to light is a lesson in modern journalism. The mainstream fellows simply reported the Parlock perspective, but it was an intrepid band of online newshounds - bloggers Rising Hegemon and Atrios, who picked up on the work of one Rezmutt, member of the forums at DemocraticUnderground.com - who pieced together the strange coincidences surrounding these Parlock incidents. Once upon a time, stories like this would get missed. The internet has created a whole new phenomenon. If the mainstream media wants to avoid being embarrassed, they might want to think about paying attention to this brave new world of investigative journalism.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091804X.shtml
heh.. there you go !
Oh boy, here's another: Hit and Run
Kicking 'em While They're Down
UPDATES! There have been many fairly important updates to this post�chief among them that the person identified in the second photo has denied being the person depicted in the first. Those will be in a post above shortly. We've closed comments because people were posting personal info that could be used to contact and harass the guy. That would be clearly non-Kosher even this weren't an investigation still in progress; since it is still in progress, it's super bacon cheeseburger with a clam on top non-Kosher. END UPDATE
So I see that TalkLeft and other liberal blogs have been wondering about the identity of this guy:
...who purportedly kicked a female protester (video here) at the Republican convention. Of course, if you're trying to identify a hardcore right-winger, left-wing blogs are probably the wrong place to post your query. Because someone on the right might've recognized a former National Taxpayers Union intern (left):
I didn't know the guy, but a few people who were in town this summer and did seem fairly certain it's him. Assuming it is, I guess "the angry and debilitating, empty-rhetoric of mob-style street politics" he denounces here are less debilitating when you're in the mob.
UPDATE 2: Naughty, naughty NTU... someone there just cropped their 2004 intern photo, leaving this, with the guy I'm being told appears to be the kicker cropped out. Of course, I expected as much, so the full photo is still above.
Source: http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/200..._1.shtml#006640
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Take a long look at the young man in the gray shirt, and then take another look at the alleged union guy who tore up the sign. Am I the only one who sees a striking resemblance? |
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| Originally posted by eternity quite a resemblance. the damage has already been done though, and no media tv outfit will waste their time to correct the story. not nearly as scandalous as the forged documents the kerry campaign came up with, actually not even in the same ball park. +1 for Republicans |
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| Originally posted by eternity quite a resemblance. the damage has already been done though, and no media tv outfit will waste their time to correct the story. not nearly as scandalous as the forged documents the kerry campaign came up with, actually not even in the same ball park. +1 for Republicans |
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| Originally posted by LiquidX Correct your ignorance with the statement you just made please? .. or perhaps you could post a link with proof that the Kerry Campaign forged those documents.. Let me know, and lets see who looks stupid .. or, who gets a point. |
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| Originally posted by .montecarlo. it doesn't really matter if they did or didn't... people still think they did, that's all that matters. |
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| Originally posted by LiquidX Which people!?!?.. there was a poll on CNN that said .. Who do you believe more? CBS or President Bush?? 68% Were saying they believed CBS more.. so I dont know man. |
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| Originally posted by .montecarlo. it doesn't really matter if they did or didn't... people still think they did, that's all that matters. |
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| Originally posted by .montecarlo. to clarify, what i meant was that as long as any significant amount of people have made a connection (be it true or not) between the CBS scam and the kerry campaign, the damage is already done... |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X It's almost like how people "thought" that Saddam had WMD's as we were preeminently attacking a sovereign state. |
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| Originally posted by Q5echo you mean like the French and the Russians and the Brits and National Inteligence Estimate and Hillary and Bill and Al and John and the entire UN Security Council. your the one thats brainwashed son |
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| Former weapons inspector: Iraq not a threat BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Former U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter told the Iraqi National Assembly on Sunday that his country, the United States, "seems to be on the verge of making a historical mistake" in its calls for ousting Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. Ritter is in Baghdad as a private citizen to voice his criticism of the U.S. threat of military action against Iraq. He looked for weapons in Iraq from 1991 until 1998, when he was called back to the United States two days before a U.S. attack on Iraq. But a report, to be published in Britain on Monday by the International Institute of Strategic Studies, is said to detail Iraq's efforts to stockpile weapons of mass destruction. Ritter said Sunday that Iraq was not a threat to the United States. "Iraq is not a sponsor of the kind of terror perpetrated against the United States on September 11 and in fact is active in suppressing the sort of fundamental extremism that characterizes those who attacked the United States on that horrible day," Ritter said. http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/09/08/ritter.iraq/ |
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| Saddam Bought Geraniums, Not Uranium by Andy Borowitz | Jul 15 '03 In an extraordinary retraction of key elements in his last State of the Union Address, President George W. Bush revealed today that Iraqi strongman Saddam Hussein did not attempt to buy uranium in Africa, as earlier alleged, but merely geraniums. "As I was reading the speech to the nation, I should have caught that typo," the President told reporters today. "My bad." While the news about the uranium/geranium goof stunned diplomatic circles, Bush remained resolute about his decision to go to war, arguing that buying geraniums, while not as potentially dangerous as buying uranium (...). http://www.keepmedia.com/pubs/Newsw...10032&oliID=213 |
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X Maybe it was more of that "faulty" CIA intelligence that they were listening to. |
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| Originally posted by Q5echo see thats what i'm talking about. you have no idea how these seperate and fiercly independent inteligence agencies work. you breed a paranoid and narrow school of thought. do you think you're more well informed than the UN security council? what you vomitted just now is off the charts ignorant with the respect to how inteligence agencies work. i thought your grandpa was in the CIA? |
defeatism. that must suck.
dismiss all you want. you just cant back up reckless bile like this.
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| Trancer-XMaybe it was more of that "faulty" CIA intelligence that they were listening to. |
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| Originally posted by Q5echo see thats what i'm talking about. you have no idea how these seperate and fiercly independent inteligence agencies work. you breed a paranoid and narrow school of thought. do you think you're more well informed than the UN security council? what you vomitted just now is off the charts ignorant with the respect to how inteligence agencies work. i thought your grandpa was in the CIA? |
Oh, I forgot...
Tenet: Resigning with head 'very, very high'
John McLaughlin to be next CIA chief
Friday, June 4, 2004
George Tenet talks Thursday with members of the CIA staff at the agency's headquarters about his resignation.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- After being dogged by heavy criticism over questionable intelligence on Iraq and terrorism since the September 11, 2001 attacks, George Tenet resigned Thursday as the director of the CIA.
"I tell you about my plans to depart with sadness, but with head held very, very high," Tenet told CIA employees at the agency's Langley, Virginia, headquarters.
"And while Washington and the media will put many different faces on the decision, it was a personal decision, and had only one basis -- in fact, the well-being of my wonderful family -- nothing more and nothing less."
The first word of Tenet's resignation came from President Bush a few hours earlier when he talked to reporters after meeting with Australian Prime Minister John Howard.
Bush also announced that Deputy CIA Director John McLaughlin will become the agency's acting chief once Tenet steps down next month.
"George Tenet is the kind of public servant you like to work with," Bush told reporters at the White House.
"He's strong, he's resolute. He's served his nation as the director for seven years. He has been a strong and able leader at the agency. He's been a strong leader in the war on terror, and I will miss him.
The announcement seemed to take much of Washington by surprise. House Speaker Dennis Hastert and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi both said they had no advance notice of Tenet's departure.
Tenet said his resignation will be effective July 11 -- the seventh anniversary of his 1997 appointment by then-President Bill Clinton.
During Tenet's time in office, he led the CIA through the 1999 conflict in Kosovo, the al Qaeda terror attacks on New York, Virginia and rural Pennsylvania, and the wars in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Tenet has enjoyed a lifetime of public service
In his remarks to employees, he praised the agency's "magnificent work" -- but he added, "Our record is not without flaws."
"The world of intelligence is a uniquely human endeavor, and as in all human endeavors we all understand the need to always do better," Tenet said. "We are not perfect, but one of our best-kept secrets is that we are very, very, very good."
Another key CIA official, James Pavitt -- the CIA's deputy director of operations who oversees all covert operations -- plans to announce his resignation Friday, U.S. sources told CNN Thursday.
The sources said Pavitt's resignation is "entirely unrelated" to Tenet's -- that Pavitt's plan to resign has been in the works for three to four weeks.
Pavitt, who has spent 30 years in the intelligence business, including the last five years as the CIA's deputy director of operations, testified before the 9/11 commission in mid-April. It marked the first time in the agency's history that someone of his position testified publicly.
'He's being pushed out or made a scapegoat'
Tenet has faced sharp criticism over the September 11 terror attacks and the war in Iraq, where pre-invasion U.S. estimates that Iraq was amassing stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction now appear to have been incorrect.
Several key lawmakers -- including Sen. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee -- have called for his resignation, and coming reports are expected to call for sweeping changes in the intelligence community.
Kerry released a statement saying he wished Tenet "the very best," but said the Bush administration has to take responsibility for "significant intelligence failures."
"Sometimes with change comes opportunity," Kerry said. "This is an opportunity for the president to lead. As I've said for some time, we must reshape our intelligence community for the 21st century and create a new position of director of national intelligence with real control of all intelligence personnel and budgets."
Sen. Richard Shelby, a former Intelligence Committee chairman, said Tenet's decision to step down as director of central intelligence was "long overdue."
"There were more failures of intelligence on his watch as director of the CIA than any other [director of Central Intelligence] in our history," Shelby, R-Alabama, said in a written statement. "I have long felt that, while an honorable man, he lacked the critical leadership necessary for our intelligence community to effectively operate, particularly in the post-9/11 world."
But the current chairman and the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee issued a joint statement praising Tenet, saying he "provided much-needed stability and leadership to an agency that was largely adrift."
"While he steps down during a period of controversy over events leading up to the attacks of 9/11 and the quality of intelligence prior to the Iraq war, we should not lose sight of a simple truth: George Tenet has served his country with distinction and honor during difficult and demanding times," said Sens. Pat Roberts, R-Kansas, and Jay Rockefeller, D-West Virginia.
And Hastert, R-Illinois, said Tenet "always did his best to defend this nation against terrorists and those states that support them."
"Mr. Tenet had a monumental task to rebuild human intelligence-gathering capabilities devastated by eight years of liberal Clinton administration policies," Hastert said.
Bush made the Tenet announcement before boarding Marine One for a flight to Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland.
He is on his way to Europe, where he will attend ceremonies marking the 60th anniversary of the D-Day invasion in World War II. (Bush leaves for European trip)
A White House official said Bush would have liked Tenet to stay on, and denied that his departure was "worked out beforehand" or "engineered."
"Tenet told Bush he wanted to leave for personal reasons, and once he said that, Bush said he respected that," the official said.
But former CIA Director Stansfield Turner said the timing of Tenet's resignation -- just five months before the presidential election -- cast doubt on the explanation that it was a personal decision.
"I think he's being pushed out or made a scapegoat," said Turner, who led the CIA during the Carter administration. "That is, that the president feels he's got to have somebody to blame, and he's doing it indirectly by asking Tenet to leave. ... I don't think he would pull the plug on President Bush in the middle of an election cycle without having been asked by the president to do that."
Rep. Porter Goss, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said of Tenet: "Boatloads of stuff have been dumped on him by all kinds of people," but "I don't think you can fault the man."
Tenet's standing ovation
"This is the most difficult decision I have ever had to make," Tenet told CIA employees.
Tenet's remarks won a lengthy standing ovation from agency workers in what one source described as a "rock concert" atmosphere. Tenet has been popular among the agency's rank-and-file, and his speech was interrupted by frequent applause.
Introducing his boss, an emotional McLaughlin told CIA staff that "It's a hard day for all of us."
Tenet said he is stepping down in part to spend more time with his son.
"I'm going to be a senior with him in high school," Tenet said. "We're going to go to class together. We're going to party together. I'm going to learn how to instant message his friends -- that would be an achievement."
Tenet praised his agency's "magnificent work" in the battle against al Qaeda, its support for U.S. troops in Iraq, and its successes against drug traffic and weapons proliferation.
But he added, "Our record is not without flaws."
"The world of intelligence is a uniquely human endeavor, and as in all human endeavors we all understand the need to always do better," Tenet said.
Pelosi said her confidence in Tenet's judgment had never wavered, even though the CIA chief was in a "very difficult situation."
"I think there are many more people who are responsible for the mess that the Bush administration has gotten us into," she told reporters. "But if Mr. Tenet thinks there should be a change of leadership at the Central Intelligence Agency -- for whatever reason, including taking one for the administration -- then so be it."
Recent testimony
Tenet sits behind Secretary of State Colin Powell during the secretary's testimony to the U.N. Security Council about Iraq.
In April, the panel investigating the September 11 attacks criticized the intelligence community and faulted Tenet for not having a management strategy to battle terrorism before the 9/11 attacks.
Tenet told the panel that enormous progress had been made since the attacks, but said that the intelligence community would need "another five years to have the kind of clandestine service our country needs." (9/11 commission faults U.S. intelligence)
In February, Tenet defended his agency's prewar assessment of Iraq's military capabilities and denied allegations that the intelligence community overplayed the potential threat that Saddam Hussein had chemical or biological weapons. (Tenet defends prewar judgment on Iraq)
"[The CIA] painted an objective assessment for our policy-makers of a brutal dictator who was continuing his efforts to deceive and build programs that might constantly surprise us and threaten our interests," Tenet said in a speech at Georgetown University.
The supposed threat of large Iraqi stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction was the primary justification for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
So far, only a few artillery shells believed to contain sarin and mustard gas have been recovered.
Tenet took responsibility for a later-discredited line in Bush's 2003 State of the Union address that alleged that Iraq was trying to buy uranium from Africa, saying the CIA had seen and approved the speech before it was delivered, and he took responsibility for the mistake.
The uranium claim was investigated by former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who said he told the CIA the report appeared unsubstantiated.
After Wilson went public with his account last year, his wife's identity as a covert CIA operative specializing in weapons of mass destruction was leaked to columnist and CNN commentator Robert Novak. That disclosure is now the subject of a criminal investigation.
In journalist Bob Woodward's recent book, "Plan of Attack," Tenet is quoted telling Bush that intelligence supporting Iraq's weapons programs was a "slam-dunk." (Woodward: Tenet told Bush WMD case a 'slam dunk')
And Tenet sat behind Secretary of State Colin Powell during the secretary's February 2003 presentation to the U.N. Security Council, in which the United States accused Iraq of violating numerous U.N. resolutions requiring its disarmament.
Powell said last month that the sources of his allegations were "inaccurate and wrong and, in some cases, deliberately misleading. And for that I am disappointed, and I regret it."
Ahmed Chalabi, the one-time U.S. ally whose Iraqi National Congress has been accused of providing some of that inaccurate intelligence, blamed Tenet for providing "erroneous information" about Iraq's suspected weapons programs. (Full story)
Chalabi is under investigation for fraud and is suspected of passing U.S. intelligence secrets to Iran, but he says Tenet led a "smear campaign" against him.
CNN White House correspondent Suzanne Malveaux and producers Ted Barrett and Henry Schuster contributed to this report.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/03/tenet.resigns
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| Originally posted by Trancer-X They work on lies and deception. That's the basic premise behind their jobs... clandestine intelligence gathering. Notable CIA operatives: Manuel Noriega Saddam Hussein Osama Bin Laden Iyad Allawi, 2, 3 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...sweek032398.htm |
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| Sophia Parlock, 3, cries while seated on the shoulders of her father, Phil Parlock, a supporter of President Bush, after a Bush-Cheney sign she and her father were holding was torn up by another person standing in the crowd that had gathered to greet Democratic vice presidential nominee John Edwards, in a file photo from Thursday, Sept. 16, 2004, in Huntington, W.Va. At right, is Alex Parlock, 11, Sophia's brother. Several supporters of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry have since suggested the whole incident was staged, and that the sign had been grabbed by one of Parlock's other children. Internet messages urged supporters to flood the media with complaints, pointing out that Parlock has been involved in similar incidents in 1996 and 2000. (AP Photo/Randy Snyder, File) |
if this is true, which looks pretty convincing, its way effed up.
HeH.. I was listening to this morning show this morning, and a caller called the show, talking about how a democrat ripped off the sign of a republican supporter, Parlock. I just e-mailed the show to clarify the caller, and this to be discussed on tomorrow's show heh.
IF anyone interested on sending and e-mail as well, let me know ;-).
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| Originally posted by .montecarlo. to clarify, what i meant was that as long as any significant amount of people have made a connection (be it true or not) between the CBS scam and the kerry campaign, the damage is already done... |
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