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Posted by Airyck Sterrett on Sep-18-2004 08:27:

Big Ears Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Monitors

Looking to get some studio monitors, planning on spending no more than $400 U.S. dollars (I'm poor) these are my favorite so far. I don't have the opportunity to listen to any studio monitors though. The closest place I can listen is 250 miles(about 400 kilometers) away. So any help would be appreciated, I would prefer actives, but if someone has a passive amp combo that would work I'm all ears. Thanx ahead of time

~Airyck~


Posted by TranceMuzik02 on Sep-18-2004 09:30:

People say they have to much low end.


Posted by Vizay on Sep-18-2004 09:37:

been listening to them personally and I have one thing to say...stay away from them!

check out the ESI near 06 instead or the event TR series


Posted by Airyck Sterrett on Sep-18-2004 10:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Vizay
been listening to them personally and I have one thing to say...stay away from them!

check out the ESI near 06 instead or the event TR series



Those ESI's seem decent, I hadn't heard of them before. I wasn't real interested in the Event TR series.
Thanx for the info

Anybody had any experience with these before?


Posted by Unknown DJ on Sep-18-2004 11:37:

i like mine...


Posted by bachatu on Sep-18-2004 12:25:

Alesis hold their own in their price range. Considering you can get some used ones for about 300 dollars .

However, only minor flaws on those monitors is that they aren't completely flat... some ppl have said that they tend to have a little bit of heavy low end, perhaps some low end that isnt even there.
Another thing is that they don't have a protection circuitry (circuit breaker) in case they are overloaded.

Now, since you said you have a budget of $400.00... I would recommend hands down the EVENT 20/20 bas (bi-amplified version). You can find these for about 400.00 used. Keep in mind im referring to the amplified version. Also, keep in mind there is the bi-amplified and the powered version. Bi amplified has an amp on each monitor, including a seperate amp for the sub and tweeter (total of four amps), with an active crossover. The regular powered version has two amplifiers on one monitor (master monitor) and has no crossover. Obviously the BAS would be a better choice than the regular amplified version.
Another advantage the Events would have over the Alesis is that the ports are in the front. Gives more flexibility in case you position your speakers against the wall. 20/20s offer a 8" woofer, instead of a 6.5" (alesis), giving better translation of lower frequencies.

I own a pair of the events 20/20 powered and they are great, and seem relatively flat (no obvious boosts in any frequency, though obviously that is a relative subjective statement). Now keep in mind that in a sense, the comparison with the Alesis and Events isn't fair as the Alesis now retail for about 399.99 and the Event 20/20 bas retail for 899.99. However, if you take advantage of purchasing a good used set of the Events, you can find them within your budget.


Posted by SignalRunners B on Sep-18-2004 12:28:

No- They lack a little bit of lowend.

They're the best set of monitors you can get up until you get to the SP8, Genelec, Mackie HRs IMO. I'd mix on M1's over Genelecs any day of the week.


Posted by Vizay on Sep-18-2004 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by SignalRunners B
I'd mix on M1's over Genelecs any day of the week.


sry to say this but are you drunk?!


Posted by Limit on Sep-18-2004 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by bachatu
Another thing is that they don't have a protection circuitry (circuit breaker) in case they are overloaded.


Uh yeah they do...maybe your talking about the older model that are not active.
Its funny how people see this as really shitty cause of the price tag. Anyone ever hear a pair of Yamaha NS10's? well they got so popular because they sound so bad...lol...the thing was that if you could get a mix sounding good on teh NS10's, it would sound good on anything. Oh yeah,I forgot to mention that Ian Van Dahl mix on the older model Alesis Monitors. But I guess anyone can have an opinion when it comes to this..I love mine!


Posted by bachatu on Sep-18-2004 20:04:

Oh they do have they have a circuit breaker included? I read a review someone gave about theirs and they mentioned it didnt have one. Im referring to the M1 MkII actives. I also was thinking of getting these (at one time) and I looked at the specs and never saw anything referring to protection circuitry in case of overload.


Posted by conexion on Sep-18-2004 20:16:

quote:
From the manual
PWM provides protection from line voltage surges that would otherwise destroy the amplifier. No user replaceable fuse is required because nuisance tripping is eliminated.


Basically the power supply unit built into the monitors do not need circuit breakers.


Posted by moth on Sep-18-2004 23:09:

heh, wheres Etherium when you need him.

If you buy monitors and find they dont sound as good as you were hoping, you can always resell them, or maybe even return them. You might find something is better for you than for someone else.


Posted by josh on Sep-19-2004 05:34:

im using event tr8XL


Posted by Airyck Sterrett on Sep-19-2004 07:06:

thanx for the info everybody, you've all been really helpfull and I'm thankfull for that. Okay so, I'm really leaning towards the ESI nEar 06 monitors now. I havn't heard anything bad about them, nothing but good stuff.

I still am kinda turned away from the event tr series, I can't say exactly why, I just have a feeling. Alot of reviews I've read when there is a complaint seems to be about the sound of the low end.

The Alesis M1's MkII's seem to have mixed reviews, either people love them or they hate them. I talked to a friend recently who used to have a pair and he said they just kinda died out after a while.

So right now I'm definately leaning towards the ESI nEar 06's. I know the port is in the back though, which I'm guessing could mostly cause problems with reflections. The way my studio is set up at the moment, the backs of the speakers would be about 15 feet away from a wall at least. Do you guys think this would cause any problems? Also if anyone has anymore info about the ESI nEar 06's that they would want to share please let me know. I plan on getting these in the next month or so unless I'm swayed away from them towards something else.....

Thanx again for all the opinions

~Airyck~


Posted by josh on Sep-19-2004 07:43:

believe in your ear. thats most imptnt thing to take note.


Posted by TranceMuzik02 on Sep-19-2004 09:29:

If you studio (which is most probably you bedroom) isn't well acoustically treated then it doesn't really matter if you have good monitors because it will still be sound bad anyway.


Posted by josh on Sep-19-2004 10:39:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceMuzik02
If you studio (which is most probably you bedroom) isn't well acoustically treated then it doesn't really matter if you have good monitors because it will still be sound bad anyway.


true enuff. I got event tr8xl. place on bedroom. the sound is rather bad.


Posted by Vizay on Sep-19-2004 16:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Airyck Sterrett
I still am kinda turned away from the event tr series, I can't say exactly why, I just have a feeling.


when it comes to monitors ALWAYS trust that feeling, after all it's you and only you that's gonna work with em


about the bassport on the backside, well I have the little brother near 05 and it's the same.
It's a bit tricky at the start because if you place them wrong it will be some weird bassreflexes so place them very carefull and make shure you get used to it. you can learn to work wit hthe weird reflexes but to be able to do that you must know exactly when and how it's reflecting

damn, I regret that I didn't wait a few months and got the 06 instead of the 05


Posted by alanzo on Sep-19-2004 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Airyck Sterrett
I still am kinda turned away from the event tr series, I can't say exactly why, I just have a feeling. Alot of reviews I've read when there is a complaint seems to be about the sound of the low end.


I like my TR6s.. not sure about the "sound" of the low end.. but it sounds fine to me... so long as the acoustics of the room you mix in are good, I get great bass out of these 6" monsters...

I've compared them to Mackie HR824s (perfectly flat)... the TR series seem to accentuate the treble a little bit and the bass is a little "punchy".. but thsoe differences can be learned.. getting a pair of expensive monitors like the HR824s isn't really worth it unless you have money to blow (pros definitly do, so that's why they own them)


Posted by Vizay on Sep-19-2004 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I like my TR6s.. not sure about the "sound" of the low end.. but it sounds fine to me... so long as the acoustics of the room you mix in are good, I get great bass out of these 6" monsters...

I've compared them to Mackie HR824s (perfectly flat)... the TR series seem to accentuate the treble a little bit and the bass is a little "punchy".. but thsoe differences can be learned.. getting a pair of expensive monitors like the HR824s isn't really worth it unless you have money to blow (pros definitly do, so that's why they own them)


dunno if I would call the mackies "pro monitors", they are more semipro.
when we're talking about promonitors we're talking about Adam, dynaudio and the likes and they range from at least 2500$ and up


Posted by Limit on Sep-19-2004 16:38:

Honestly I think its more of a preference thing...some guys swear by thier NS10's and some don't even want to touch em. True some are pretty crappy but i guess thats where price plays a pivitol role.


Posted by trancenrg69 on Sep-19-2004 17:19:

It's all about acoustics. put 400 dollar mk2's in a perfectly acoustic mastering studio and they'll sound better than 824's in a small bedroom. My Event TR8 XL's sounded like crap in my bedroom. I moved them to a large space 30 x 15 and they sound incredible. If your going to place monitors in a typical bedroom environment don't even think of getting a monitor with an 8 inch woofer unless your prepared to dish out lots of cash on acoustic treatment. if not get something with a small woofer and don't spend to much cause it won't matter.


Posted by Limit on Sep-19-2004 18:30:

you can always use acoustic tiles which arn't extremely expensive and do a fairy good job.


Posted by EliPsE on Sep-19-2004 19:49:

I have the Alesis mkII's even tho I read what ppl had to say about them here(mostly negative) and I love them. they were the ones that suited my ear, + they sound awesome in the room i have them in. No matter what pair of monitors you get, you have to learn them.


Posted by Airyck Sterrett on Sep-19-2004 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Vizay
when it comes to monitors ALWAYS trust that feeling, after all it's you and only you that's gonna work with em


about the bassport on the backside, well I have the little brother near 05 and it's the same.
It's a bit tricky at the start because if you place them wrong it will be some weird bassreflexes so place them very carefull and make shure you get used to it. you can learn to work wit hthe weird reflexes but to be able to do that you must know exactly when and how it's reflecting

damn, I regret that I didn't wait a few months and got the 06 instead of the 05


I've decided to trust my gut instinct and go with the ESI nEar 06's, I figure no matter what speakers I get I'm just going to have to learn how they "should" sound anyway. These seem like a good deal and I havn't heard anything bad about them. Thanx for all the help everyone, I really appreciate it.

~Airyck~



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