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Posted by CunningLinguist on Sep-24-2004 00:23:

The mixes these days

There seem to be so many monotonous drone-like mixes floating around now. Every song in the damn mixes is pretty much the same. Every song has that new bubbly/sine-wavish melody. No rise or peak at all.

Serious most of the mixes these days are good for falling asleep.

Perhaps trance has reached its crest?


Posted by jrbuddha on Sep-24-2004 04:15:

another trance is dead thread...worded different, but same message


Posted by Spacey Orange on Sep-24-2004 08:49:

Thumbs up Re: Re: The mixes these days

quote:
Originally posted by moncster
then stop listening to prog trance mixes and stick to hard trance.


you got that right.


Posted by nwopper on Sep-24-2004 16:20:

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quote:
Originally posted by moncster
then stop listening to prog trance mixes and stick to hard trance.


WORD!


Posted by NiteMer on Sep-24-2004 16:33:

Re: Re: The mixes these days

quote:
Originally posted by moncster
then stop listening to prog trance mixes and stick to hard trance.


What? Hard trance is generally the most monotonous. George Acosta is the king of monotony.


Posted by torontotrance on Sep-24-2004 16:34:

no, that's armin van buuren and markus schulz, same formulaic records, no innovation and the thing is...both can do better!


Posted by breakaholic on Sep-24-2004 17:40:


Ok true, some of the known name trance producers produce quantity over quality these days but it's stupid thing to say that Trance is dead. I personally haven't been following trance that closely in past few years anymore but I'm very happy to see that new names still rise all the time. I quess It's fair enough to say that trance peaked between 1998-2000 (1999 was my favourite year), but lot's of great quality songs are still produced. It's just harder to find the right ones for you these days...


Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 18:25:

Re: Re: Re: The mixes these days

quote:
Originally posted by nwopper
WORD!


word to his word


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-24-2004 18:29:

Re: Re: Re: The mixes these days

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
What? Hard trance is generally the most monotonous. George Acosta is the king of monotony.


George Acosta is hard trance?


Posted by NiteMer on Sep-24-2004 20:20:

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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
George Acosta is hard trance?



Yeah. What do you call his music? Progressive Trance? At least everything he has played lately is hard trance. It's shitty, but it's hard trance.


Posted by Scottaculous on Sep-24-2004 20:44:

Most producers and DJs are either a) lazy b) don't know what they are doing.


Posted by WarBorg on Sep-24-2004 20:49:

also in my opinion Club Trance is doing good as well


Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 21:55:

acosta's music is cheesy hardtrance wannabee imho


Posted by NiteMer on Sep-24-2004 22:06:

George Acosta does suck. I guess you are thinking only dj's like Scott Project are hard trance?


Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
George Acosta does suck. I guess you are thinking only dj's like Scott Project are hard trance?



if i said yes, people who think scot project is crap and cheese would get on my case (believe me, they exist)
so i'll say that he is more on track with hard trance


Posted by NiteMer on Sep-24-2004 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by sisterbliss
if i said yes, people who think scot project is crap and cheese would get on my case (believe me, they exist)
so i'll say that he is more on track with hard trance


Ok. Who plays hard trance that is accepted across the board? Hard Trance is, generally speaking, a cheesy genre. There are good tracks, hell I play some hard trance, but it's hard for me to think of a real popular dj that plays all hard trance and is still good imo.


Posted by Boomer187 on Sep-24-2004 22:23:

usually when I find mixes and tracks cheesy or boring I don't listen to them. I go out and find ones I like.



I suggest the same here.


Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 22:27:

ah, see, even you say hard trance is cheesy. just like real trance, hard trance has evolved and vespa 63, scot project, flutlicht, natron, shokk, kai tracid are the obvious ones to come to mind. but i would agree if people called them "mainstream" and "cheesy".
but what can we do, hard trance HAS become more mainstream, just like the "trance of 99" has evolved in both accessibility and sound.
it's hard for me to think of ANY dj who plays his/her genre and is good. it's all relative and subject to listener's taste

so some people say all of today's trance is boring and cheese and that "old-school" trance is the real trance
similarly, hard trance fans bash today's hard trance and praise "old-school" trance which is, essentially, more hardstyle then hardtrance

to be honest, i don't know that much in depth about hard trance, just like i don't know everything about another particular genre / subgenre. i listen to everyone and everything, if i like it.


Posted by NiteMer on Sep-24-2004 22:35:

quote:
Originally posted by sisterbliss
ah, see, even you say hard trance is cheesy. just like real trance, hard trance has evolved and vespa 63, scot project, flutlicht, natron, shokk, kai tracid are the obvious ones to come to mind. but i would agree if people called them "mainstream" and "cheesy".
but what can we do, hard trance HAS become more mainstream, just like the "trance of 99" has evolved in both accessibility and sound.
it's hard for me to think of ANY dj who plays his/her genre and is good. it's all relative and subject to listener's taste

so some people say all of today's trance is boring and cheese and that "old-school" trance is the real trance
similarly, hard trance fans bash today's hard trance and praise "old-school" trance which is, essentially, more hardstyle then hardtrance

to be honest, i don't know that much in depth about hard trance, just like i don't know everything about another particular genre / subgenre. i listen to everyone and everything, if i like it.


Agreed. I listen to dj's, not styles. A friend of mine gave me a trance disc that is fairly epic recently and I really liked it. It is programmed well and isn't all epic trance. Also, the epic trance is good, not over the top or cheesy, IMO. Someone else might listen to it and hate it though. It's all taste. I just thought it was weird that someone said listen to hard trance as opposed to progressive trance, if you want more variety. I would say listen to hard trance if you like it, not that it changes more.


Posted by Radagast on Sep-24-2004 22:40:

And what exactly is it about epic trance that has changed in the past six years.


Posted by NiteMer on Sep-24-2004 22:42:

I never said that it has changed much, if any. I said there is good epic trance and bad epic trance. I love good epic trance, and I want to puke when I hear bad epic trance.


Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Nite-Mer
Agreed. I listen to dj's, not styles. A friend of mine gave me a trance disc that is fairly epic recently and I really liked it. It is programmed well and isn't all epic trance. Also, the epic trance is good, not over the top or cheesy, IMO. Someone else might listen to it and hate it though. It's all taste. I just thought it was weird that someone said listen to hard trance as opposed to progressive trance, if you want more variety. I would say listen to hard trance if you like it, not that it changes more.




the person who told you to listen to hard trance as opposed to progressive trance for variety was not only implying that progressive is monotonous, i think they were also implying that it's boring and all tunes sound the same.

when i listen to music i don't burden myself with thing like "what genre is this????". sometimes it's useful to do the general "oh it's breakbeat, i want to hear more of similar stuff" but being overly concerned whether something is cheese and sounds the same as something else, that's not my cup of tea. if i like it, who cares if it's cheesy hard trance of something else.


quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
And what exactly is it about epic trance that has changed in the past six years.



i'm not sure if you're addressing me, but even if not so, nowhere in this thread changes in epic trance have been mentioned


Posted by Radagast on Sep-24-2004 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by sisterbliss
just like the "trance of 99" has evolved in both accessibility and sound.


How.


Posted by sisterbliss on Sep-24-2004 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
How.



ASOT


Posted by DjSimonB on Sep-24-2004 22:51:

Another fucking trance is dead thread, there's too much negativity in here when these threads get posted so often.


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