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Posted by dramin on Sep-29-2004 07:55:

Dunno Astral Projection

Astral Projection has pondered on my mind for quite sometime now. I have acomplished Lucid dreaming. Knowing that you are in a dream and controling it can be fun. I am sure that projection is an experience also. If anyone has any insight to this let me know throught this thread or pm me. I do have this link to help with anyone who would like to try the methods that i have already.

For anyone who has accomplished this tell me how it was, what did you see or feel. What did you think or feel afterwards.


http://www.dextroverse.org/sprituality.htm


Posted by DJ Cinos on Sep-29-2004 08:48:

Astral Projection IS lucid dreaming. You only travel in your head.


Posted by placebo on Sep-29-2004 12:17:

I thought you were talking about the Goa artist. I think Lucid Dreaming is bullshit.


Posted by dramin on Sep-29-2004 22:53:

I know for a fact that lucid dreaming is not bull shit. I have experienced it several times. Besides it has to be believable, because its only where you know that you are dreaming.


Posted by TweeK on Sep-29-2004 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by placebo
I thought you were talking about the Goa artist


I was thinking the same thing


Posted by TweeK on Sep-29-2004 23:08:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by dramin
I know for a fact that lucid dreaming is not bull shit. I have experienced it several times. Besides it has to be believable, because its only where you know that you are dreaming.



I didnt know what a Lucid Dream was intill i just read up on it.Sound cool


Posted by -=M=- on Sep-30-2004 00:12:

i can get to the point where i see an image, it becomes 100% clear for a split second then when i try to focus inside that image it just vanishes... sucks to be me


Posted by twisted on Sep-30-2004 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
i can get to the point where i see an image, it becomes 100% clear for a split second then when i try to focus inside that image it just vanishes... sucks to be me



dont focus then





works for me

its the same kinda thing when you get those little specs in your eye when your just sitting around. you try and follow it goes away. you almost look at it, it just swirls around


Posted by Mr. Pink on Sep-30-2004 00:37:

Rasta

When I was a kid i had an amazing imagination.

i still do, but i think connecting with reality too much- creating boundaries and limitations and basically coining definitions as to what reality is.......well that fucks up your mental capability as far as metaphysics might go.

regardless though, when i was a kid i used to be able to lucid dream almost every night i tried.

sometimes i couldnt, but for the most part i remember a ritual...

id say to myself, i want to be here.......and think about it until i slowly drifted off to sleep, and then id be there.......knowing i had thought about it prior, connecting that i was there NOW.....and realizing it was a dream that i could control...

i would always fly though...

every damn time.........i would fly.

when i hit like 9yrs old i stopped flying


now i just get high..


Posted by -=M=- on Sep-30-2004 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted420
dont focus then





works for me

its the same kinda thing when you get those little specs in your eye when your just sitting around. you try and follow it goes away. you almost look at it, it just swirls around


i know exactly what you mean - the little tiny white dots that swirl around generally in the centre of your vision

but you know what i mean - when you start seeing something its hard to not focus


Posted by dramin on Sep-30-2004 06:01:

quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
i know exactly what you mean - the little tiny white dots that swirl around generally in the centre of your vision

but you know what i mean - when you start seeing something its hard to not focus



I call them SPARKLIES, and i love it when that happens.


Posted by dramin on Sep-30-2004 06:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
When I was a kid i had an amazing imagination.

i still do, but i think connecting with reality too much- creating boundaries and limitations and basically coining definitions as to what reality is.......well that fucks up your mental capability as far as metaphysics might go.

regardless though, when i was a kid i used to be able to lucid dream almost every night i tried.

sometimes i couldnt, but for the most part i remember a ritual...

id say to myself, i want to be here.......and think about it until i slowly drifted off to sleep, and then id be there.......knowing i had thought about it prior, connecting that i was there NOW.....and realizing it was a dream that i could control...

i would always fly though...

every damn time.........i would fly.

when i hit like 9yrs old i stopped flying


now i just get high..




That is awesome Mr Pink. I was kinda like that when I was a kid, but i have been high to much to remember. With me if I have been high it is harder to accomplish lucid dreaming. But after i haven't for a few days it becomes easier


Posted by DJ Cinos on Sep-30-2004 07:11:

quote:
Originally posted by dramin
I call them SPARKLIES, and i love it when that happens.


You mean the "junk" or some other phenomena? (like some glowing things I thought were the result of some defect in my eyes?)


Posted by dramin on Sep-30-2004 07:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Cinos
You mean the "junk" or some other phenomena? (like some glowing things I thought were the result of some defect in my eyes?)


No Its not a defect. Im not really sure what that is but it has something to do with to much or to little blood or oxygen to the brain.


Posted by DJ Cinos on Sep-30-2004 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by dramin
No Its not a defect. Im not really sure what that is but it has something to do with to much or to little blood or oxygen to the brain.


What a relief.


Posted by -=M=- on Sep-30-2004 07:58:

that would probably be "too much" blood to the head - i get it whenever i focus all blood flow to my brain so that it may become more active or whatever so i might actually get somewhere

moving your blood flow around your body is an interesting thing to do as well... focus it all into your torso and your arms and legs go numb... thats pretty much all the experience i have


Posted by nixes on Sep-30-2004 07:58:

I want to get out of my body. Any tips?


Posted by Mr. Pink on Sep-30-2004 11:08:

Rasta

quote:
Originally posted by nixes
I want to get out of my body. Any tips?


die


Posted by Disco_Gibson on Sep-30-2004 13:12:

quote:
Originally posted by placebo
I thought you were talking about the Goa artist. I think Lucid Dreaming is bullshit.


lol.you tit,of course its true.it happens to me sometimes.one of the best experiences ive ever had.controlling wot u wanna do etc.i had one where i was flying about an airport terminal.so real it was scary...


Posted by -=M=- on Oct-01-2004 00:41:

yeah tried lucid dreaming last night - got teleported to a pool hall with a girl i liked... then lasted about 3 seconds and got smacked over the head with a pool cue and woke up lmao

was cool until that happened tho might try again tonight


Posted by Orbax on Oct-01-2004 00:51:

Astral Projection is lucid dreaming realized. Lucid dreaming is realizing that you are in control of your own mind. Astral Projection is realizing you can control yourself in anothers consciousness.


Posted by DiMethGuy on Oct-01-2004 01:00:

screw astral projection...remote viewing is where it's at.


Posted by PhloTron on Oct-01-2004 04:57:

been able to lucid dream as long as I can remember...basically nightly because of the control over by brain and thoughts...I also can recall dreams very well, both awake and explain them in detail or to bring an event back up the next night/week/year in another dream. Sometimes, though, what I encounter though each time is a different story.

I haven't controlled my thoughts in other peoples minds/dreams yet or have the faintest idea how if possible ...but I've had some close friends that have mentioned me in their dream and my actions during it...which were things I knew I would do...so I only look at them and raise my brow with a snickering look


Posted by Quinders on Oct-01-2004 12:22:

Has anyone ever sort of semi-woken up? I mean it's like you are paralysed (can't move)as if sleeping but you can see and hear things going on around you. This has happened to me a lot and sometimes you might "wake up" out of a dream and still see and hear things as if you were still in that dream. It's bloody scary!!! Is this similar to lucid dreaming?


Posted by dramin on Oct-01-2004 12:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Quinders
Has anyone ever sort of semi-woken up? I mean it's like you are paralysed (can't move)as if sleeping but you can see and hear things going on around you. This has happened to me a lot and sometimes you might "wake up" out of a dream and still see and hear things as if you were still in that dream. It's bloody scary!!! Is this similar to lucid dreaming?



I do believe that it is a form of lucid dreaming, curious have you ever been at that state and seen yourself lying in bed?


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