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Posted by Joshva on Sep-30-2004 04:38:

Should Sydney have a dedicated prog trance night?

Should Sydney have a dedicated prog trance night?

Should we put a small but dedicated prog trance night? Their seems plenty of prog trance lovers but hardly any outlets.

What are your thoughts?


Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-30-2004 04:45:

i think you're better having one room prog trance and the other room uplifting..

i remember hearing Cam play his 'Probspot' set before above & beyond and whilst he didnt like the equipment he still produced a nice set.. so i think thats the go..

however you're the organiser..


Posted by muli on Sep-30-2004 04:51:

i dont think a montly event would work, but maybe special events, like 4 a year?


a 2nd prog trance room MAY work, but i still think people who like progressive trance, wont come to a trance night if they think its going to be uplifting also.


we need a progressive/prog trance night, one that starts with normal prog house and "progresses" through the night not finish with some nice pumping prog trance.

thats my thoughts


Oh and small venue would be the way to go i think, say 400 people max??


Posted by christos on Sep-30-2004 05:03:

I think you should incorporate a second room to go from breaks to prog trance to uplifting to tech and whatever else.

Muli and Cam are great at keeping their sets diverse

edit: good to see josh doing his bit for the sydney dance community


Posted by djway on Sep-30-2004 05:17:

I'd say no.

The sound isn't that acceptable in the Sydney scene. It's too trancey to get the SC guys to come to it, and too proggy for the trance guys. Don't get me wrong I LOVE the sound, but it's not main room club friendly.

It's a good side room sound, perhaps even a chill out room sound. I'd think you'd get about 100 people max to a room playing prog trance; not something that's going to be staple for a main room. [perhaps the sound could be grown?]

I'd also say (as already said), a full night of prog trance is too much...IMO regardless of room, I believe it'd work better if all the sounds of progressive were used through the night.

Also, you run JAFP, you said your opinion is only yours, but that is also the main opinion behind JAFP.

"Well I personally like uplifting trance and faster right the way through to happy hardcore!!!! I personally find prog trance a bit much to hear in a club environment"

"Should we put a small but dedicated prog trance night?"

Can I ask why the sudden change of views? [seems a bit funny putting on a night where you don't like the music, purely for the greater good of the scene. Promoting is a lot of work (don't need to tell you that), I just can't see why you'd go to such lengths for the scene when you could put on a night of happy hardcore, or something that you are passionate about]

Thanks,
--djway


Posted by Joshva on Sep-30-2004 05:34:

quote:
Originally posted by djway
I'd say no.

The sound isn't that acceptable in the Sydney scene. It's too trancey to get the SC guys to come to it, and too proggy for the trance guys. Don't get me wrong I LOVE the sound, but it's not main room club friendly.

It's a good side room sound, perhaps even a chill out room sound. I'd think you'd get about 100 people max to a room playing prog trance; not something that's going to be staple for a main room. [perhaps the sound could be grown?]

I'd also say (as already said), a full night of prog trance is too much...IMO regardless of room, I believe it'd work better if all the sounds of progressive were used through the night.

Also, you run JAFP, you said your opinion is only yours, but that is also the main opinion behind JAFP.

"Well I personally like uplifting trance and faster right the way through to happy hardcore!!!! I personally find prog trance a bit much to hear in a club environment"

"Should we put a small but dedicated prog trance night?"

Can I ask why the sudden change of views? [seems a bit funny putting on a night where you don't like the music, purely for the greater good of the scene. Promoting is a lot of work (don't need to tell you that), I just can't see why you'd go to such lengths for the scene when you could put on a night of happy hardcore, or something that you are passionate about]

Thanks,
--djway



^^^
Thanks for the honesty

We now have a couple of promoters working on the JAFP events not just myself. I personally would not work on an event that I wasn't passionate about musically and knew the scene very well. That's why i have locked myself down to concentrating on A Night Of Trance and ULTRA. That being said though we have had a fair bit of interest from the other promoters about putting on other nights especially breaks but also prog. If such nights were to go ahead I would not really be involved in them from a musical stand point. I don't know enough about those styles of music.

None the less I am interested in what you guys want. You guys are the community and the events are for you.


Posted by Sid on Sep-30-2004 05:37:

yeah SC I think are doing a fantastic job and as Wade said, their regulars would definitely find it a little too trancey if one was to get started up by ANOT! although alot of us here on these boards would definitely recommend a move, I think the night will ultimately be a flop as it is too difficult to move people away from the regular dominating scenes such as the Hard Trance and House scenes. Positive thinking though Josh, I respect that


Posted by Aesthetic on Sep-30-2004 05:56:

excuse me, josh. where is your pride man? the proggy people bag the shit out of you to no end and you're throwing around ideas to give them their own night.

even if my pagola was free i wouldnt offer it to these turds.


Posted by JulesPLees on Sep-30-2004 07:30:

Youve got the DJ's up there to do it

The Ta's of course (Muli, Cameron, DJWay, Jace) and Jumping Jack could probably fit in 2...


Posted by eRRaTiK on Sep-30-2004 08:30:

if the attendance in the prog room @ ANOT back in march is anything to go by.. not too positive.

You could always test it out and see how it goes..

don't forget elemance. that dude got skillz.


Posted by muli on Sep-30-2004 09:40:

quote:
Originally posted by JulesPLees
Youve got the DJ's up there to do it

The Ta's of course (Muli, Cameron, DJWay, Jace) and Jumping Jack could probably fit in 2...



nah JJ just plays the normal trance


Posted by OzTi�sto on Sep-30-2004 09:50:

quote:
Originally posted by JulesPLees
Youve got the DJ's up there to do it

The Ta's of course (Muli, Cameron, DJWay, Jace) and Jumping Jack could probably fit in 2...
Don't forget DJ's willing to travel


Posted by escee on Sep-30-2004 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveBegic
excuse me, josh. where is your pride man? the proggy people bag the shit out of you to no end and you're throwing around ideas to give them their own night.

even if my pagola was free i wouldnt offer it to these turds.


SHUT UP BEGIC YOUR UPLIFTING PAGOLA IS DEAD! PROGRESSIVE 4 LIFE!!!


Posted by Adnan1999'ing on Sep-30-2004 10:58:

how about a cross-promotion with Josh and Friends + Sweet Chilli, as an experiment? progressive/break trance and prog-house?


Posted by j�c� on Sep-30-2004 13:21:

wade's on the money

as much as a lot of us on here would love it, its just not feasible.


Posted by misstrance on Sep-30-2004 14:43:

yeah i also agree with wade...there just isnt a big enough market here 2 support a dedicated prog trance nite...we already have trouble pulling crowds 2 trance gigs alone! but yeh i think it could work well as a side room tho


Posted by starsurfer on Oct-01-2004 06:49:

Ultimately, wouldn't it be best to have the prog trance in the MAIN room just like at rush?

Sure only the opening set would be prog, but think about it this way - you are getting a lot more coverage by playing in the main room, and that in itself means you might introduce more people to the genre. I also t hink it is t he ultimate way to smoothly build up pace for the night (at a trance night).

I remember the days of Altitude @ Dendy, when Lee Hardy would pump out some very very tasty prog trance and finish with the more melodic stuff. I still think that the days Lee was opener, the best nights were had. The music just progressed so well.

Scottie


Posted by muli on Oct-01-2004 07:36:

yea nights where the music progresses are the best.


say opening set prog trance, then 2nd set prog trance into uplifting, then pumping uplifting set, then a harder techier set for closing.


Posted by starsurfer on Oct-01-2004 23:51:

yep.. couldn't agree more Dan.

when (if) we ever get the big TT event happening, that is what the structure will be like in the main room... prog, melodic, uplifting, banging.

Scort


Posted by matt_a on Oct-03-2004 12:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Adnan1999'ing
how about a cross-promotion with Josh and Friends + Sweet Chilli, as an experiment? progressive/break trance and prog-house?


BAAAAHAHAHA.

I can see this happening in the near future, there goes the SC crowd anyway You don't understand progressive people. We are elite and don't care for the lower forms of music. Any incursion into our territory is sacralidge and trespassers will be forced to listen to Guy Sebastian until they beg for mercy.

Seriously . . . it'll never happen, because it would suck, simple

To the idea of a prog trance night . . its just too small a 'genre' to make a whole night out of. It just would not have enough support, and prog trance and prog house or whatever the fuck you wanna dub them, are too close.



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