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Would An Allen & Heath Xone 62 Make Me **** On A DjM 600?

hey peeps. im going to be getting a new mixer in the near future. this month hopefully. its between a Pioneer DJM 600, a Denon DNX 1500, or the Allen & Heath Xone 92.

i dont know why but for some reason i really dont want to gert a pioneer DJM600. they seem to have been aorund for ages and i head the sound o nthem isnt all that. also im gettin bored of everyone going on about them. i was leaning towards the DNX 1500 because it looks the nuts and the effects sound cool. but lately ive been leaning more towards the Xone 62. jsut cus i hear it has amazing osund quality and i like the look of the extra mid eq. but a question that arose from that was: if i have a xone 62 at home, and im used to havin 4 eq's and i go to mix at a club with a djm 600 with 3 eq's, will i find it really hard to mix with the djm 600?

im yet to acually test any of these out as im going to do that nearer to the time. i have about �630 so in a few more weeks il b able to afford all of them so price isnt an issue here.

so for the people who know what they r tlaking about: what one would u recomend? and if i got the Xone 62 would it put me at a disadvantage if i mixed i na club that had a DJM 600?

thanks in advance


Adam

Hey dude

Well I have used both in clubs and at home and after some time I decided to stump up for the DJM600 and I have to say I really like it. The A&H was really nice but I just preferred the feel and easy to use effects on the DJM600.

I would say try them out and see how you get on.... the sound on both for me was very good so I wouldn't worry too much about that area.

The one extra thing with the pioneer is the connections to the CDJ1000 should you need them. Auto start on the cd by using the crossfader etc.

Should that be any use to you...

Cheers

Kuff

Yeah the DJM600 isnt a bad mixer at all. I've had one for a long time and recently upgraded to a Xone:92 because I don't really use effects when I'm mixing and wanted better sound quality. I guess if you want some easy to use effects the 600 might be a better choice.

I use a whole range of mixers when I'm out and about and to be honest the two favourites I have are the DJM 600 and any of the A&H mixers. You can't really go wrong with either in terms of what they offer you. On the other hand if you had to get one fixed for whatever reason then the Allen and Heath win anyday.

I have both at home just to be able to practice using both. I like to know mixers before I perform on them.

You will get people on this forum sticking up for one or the other and eventually you may even get a flame war but both parties in that usually have blinkered vision.

The bottom line is that A&H make really nice mixers but I'm not sure I agree that they are worth the price difference expecially in the case of the Xone 92.

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if i got the Xone 62 would it put me at a disadvantage if i mixed i na club that had a DJM 600?

Not anymore than if you encountered any other unknown mixer. The only thing that might happen is that you wouldn't be able to use the effects to their full capacity.
The other thiing is that if you only use the bass frequency when you mix (like myself) then you wont have any issues.I do find the A&H is more responsive but not massively so.


Cheers
Nem

if your a stickler for sound go with the a&h IMO......ahhhhh if u have the money just get the a&h.....its all around better

i have a xone 92, and my friend has a djm600, u wont have problems goin from 2 mids and then back to 1 mid

if you are going to get a djm600, get a djm3000 instead. it has a much nicer layout

i am not a fan of a&h mixers, they cramp my style more than anything with the annoying shaped faders and unresponsive x-fader. the filters are great as is the sound quality, but lets face it, you are at home. the difference between the sound quality of that and a djm600 won't be that noticable at home.

i think the djm600 has more to offer in usability. the faders are great, there are more effects to choose from, as well as a sampler. it has better curver adjustments than the a&h, in general i think its a much more versatile mixer, which is why a lot of clubs go for them.

i have heard very good things from people on here about the denon dnx1500, its part of the new generation of mixers that the djm mixers started all those years go, basically a very similar idea with extra bits & pieces like 24 bit output, upgradable firmware, slightly different (and better by the looks of it) effect control etc etc.

as well as that, look at the ecler nuo5. similar mixer to the denon, but it is currently at the top of the pile as far as i am concerned

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Originally posted by tu_face i am not a fan of a&h mixers, they cramp my style more than anything with the annoying shaped faders and unresponsive x-fader. the filters are great as is the sound quality, but lets face it, you are at home. the difference between the sound quality of that and a djm600 won't be that noticable at home.

if u have a decent set up @ home u can tell the sound difference as well when recording.

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Originally posted by djtrinity if u have a decent set up @ home u can tell the sound difference as well when recording.

well if it was me, i wouldn't trade off the versatility, nice faders etc etc (see my above post) for a little sound quality. it can't be as bad as people try to make out otherwise clubs just wouldn't use them.

try using the XLR outputs

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Originally posted by tu_face well if it was me, i wouldn't trade off the versatility, nice faders etc etc (see my above post) for a little sound quality. it can't be as bad as people try to make out otherwise clubs just wouldn't use them. try using the XLR outputs

true.....sometimes clubs have to use them according to dj's riders and stuff.... ...but very rarely if ever i have seen a pioneer permenantly set up in a major club system...

but if if works for u than that is the mixer to use!! whatever mixer u buy make sure u try first or at least be prepared to get rid of it if you don't like it.....don't keep something you don't like using cause its 'supposed' to be the bomb!

i own a DJM600 and love it... and i would choose it over a A&H because im at home you know... im about to buy a nice PA system at the end of the year only really for home usage and throwing house parties and such and maybe a small out door thing... but, you see it wouldnt matter about sound becuse you dont have all those hudge 11 foo speakers with really good sound pick up and all these $4000 amps you know thats for the club... go for a mixer that you will have fun with, thats why i went for the DJM600 was because of all the effects and what not... that and the colors of the A&H cramp my style for my TT's though im sure it look weird with DJM600 and Numark TT1625's ...

but go with the mixer you like and make sure you try it out first you know... see which you like beter

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Originally posted by Cosmic Realm i own a DJM600 and love it... and i would choose it over a A&H because im at home you know... im about to buy a nice PA system at the end of the year only really for home usage and throwing house parties and such and maybe a small out door thing... but, you see it wouldnt matter about sound becuse you dont have all those hudge 11 foo speakers with really good sound pick up and all these $4000 amps you know thats for the club...

as i said in another post....u don't need a huge set up to to hear differences in mixers i don't understand why everyone keeps say'n this....u can hear difference also in recording.......

The worst thing with the A&H is the cross fader if you like your tricks. It sucks ass.

Cheers
Nem

heh. no nem im not. tho i mite need to do some scratching for a college project. but all i nall im just goin for sound quality and how good the mixer is. want the eq's to b nice. not like the wank ones on the djx 700.

Most people that have posted have excluded the X1500 from there choice, which is fine. The 'Industry Standard' DJM600, is still a great mixer, but I think it starting to get passed pretty quickly by a few of the mixers that were mentioned. I have never used a A&H so I won't make any comments other than the amazing sound quality that A&H are known for, but it is quite expensive for home use. The DJM has OK sound quality considering the amount you still have to pay these days to get one, great EQ's, effects, etc. Now as for the X1500, which IS the best mixer I have ever used... Great EQ's, excellent effects unit (minus the fact that is should be a fader instead of a knob). is upgrade with the firmware, the Matrix system is quite useful for addition 'effects', the faders are really smooth, and the headphone cue is amazing.. the sound quality is between the DJM and A&H. and for the price cheaper than both, you can't really loose. But this is all just IMO.

*cough* Ecler Nuo 5 *cough*

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Originally posted by wiregen *cough* Ecler Nuo 5 *cough*

I fall asleep at night dreaming of this mixer.



seriously

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Originally posted by wiregen *cough* Ecler Nuo 5 *cough*

One of the two mixers I will be considering when I upgrade... either the Ecler or Nuo5... my buddy (DannyO) had to pick between the two and finally went with the Ecler.... and I love that mixer.. but time will only tell.

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Originally posted by J:\Digital One of the two mixers I will be considering when I upgrade... either the Ecler or Nuo5... my buddy (DannyO) had to pick between the two and finally went with the Ecler.... and I love that mixer.. but time will only tell.

I don't follow he had a choice between the Ecler and the Nuo5?? Ecler makes the Nuo5... unless you mean the Nuo5 and the DN-X1500??, DJM-600??, Xone 62???

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Originally posted by Wraith I don't follow he had a choice between the Ecler and the Nuo5?? Ecler makes the Nuo5... unless you mean the Nuo5 and the DN-X1500??, DJM-600??, Xone 62???

i think that is what he meant

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Originally posted by auujay I fall asleep at night dreaming of this mixer. seriously

ditto, i am just waiting for the day i find �700 on the floor

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Originally posted by tu_face ditto, i am just waiting for the day i find �700 on the floor

I hear that. I just got a ton of cash from my student loan. I keep telling myself it is not really my money and that I have to pay it back. Still it is really tough knowing I can actually pay for it, especially when I couldn't for so long. I guess it helps that it is not available in the US yet, but I heard it is supposed to be released here this month (that will really be a test of my will power ).

ok. i have �700. n the nuo 5 has been thrown in here. whats so good about it? the lack or indicator lighs on each cnannel put me off.

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Originally posted by Unknown DJ ok. i have �700. n the nuo 5 has been thrown in here. whats so good about it? the lack or indicator lighs on each cnannel put me off.

I assume you mean the VU meters for each channel. I think you can live without individual ones, it still has a seperate meter for all the cued channels (the single meter to the left of the double meter which is the master out). So when you cue a channel, it shows up on that display which is seperate from the master one (unlike my current Numark mixer).

Something I like about it (from reading, never used it) is the FX fader instead of a knob, apparently this makes using the FX really easy. Also I like the fact it has slightly longer faders than some other mixers (like the DN-X1500 and maybe the DJM600, not sure about that one). I also hear good things about the sound quality which is a plus. I also really prefer the layout of it compared to the DN-X1500, though I hear the matrix input on the DN-X1500 is cool.

I am curious as too how effective the MIDI out is. I think it good really open up some possibilities with Ableton Live or something similar.

For me personally it is between the Nuo or an Empath. One reason I am leaning towards the Nuo is that it is bigger so the layout is more spread out.

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Originally posted by Unknown DJ whats so good about it?

the amount of thought that's gone into it!

the layout is beautiful, the contols are wicked (see wet/dry fader) the effects unit i have heard is fantastic (Internal beat synchronized sound processors with L.F.O, Manual HP Filter, Manual LP Filter, Delay, Reverb, Pitch, Flanger, Phaser, Filtered Echo (Band Pass Delay), Echo Reverb and Flanger Echo). it has much easier fx send selection than a djm600. it has uber-sound quality and upgradable firmware (via USB link to your computer) there is also fx customisation capability through the USB link software which you get with the mixer!!!!!!!!

it has midi outputs, as well as XLR. bass kill switches on each channel, as well as phono inputs on all main channels (other mixers only have 2 or 3 channels with phono inputs). it also has 2 master volume controls, meaning that if you need a lower output for a recording device, yet you need a higher output for playback, you can do it! it has posh magnetic 'eternal' x-fader with curve-control which are guarenteed up to 5 years (more than the pcv x-fader from vestax!)

i wouldn't worry about the lack of VU meters on each channel, they arn't essentially needed (although it can help when you have 3 tracks on the go, quick reference) as whichever channel you have on cue will be on the dedicated cue VU meter, next to the master VU meter.

by the way, its more like �800

in a nutshell, this mixer IS the one.

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