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Posted by mndeg on Oct-05-2004 02:07:

how would i mix a song like this

SM project - why can't this dream last
it starts with about a 1:30 of just a melody kind of strong with no beat

and it ends full blown with an anthem with no outro, just a 5 second fade out


Posted by dj chex on Oct-05-2004 02:14:

I would mix it in twords the end of the breakdown of the prior record, then depending on the ending, i either may try to mix it or screw it and cut in something different or i may just do a simple fix-it backspin. (btw, i wouldn't know b/c i haven't listened to that track)


Posted by FirstBorn on Oct-05-2004 08:33:

Sounds like a perfect 'one more tune' track... you know, when you're playing the last set, it's 5.50 am, you switch the decks off and everybody cheers and starts shouting for one track. Enough of an intro to let 'em know that something's happening and a nice short ending that finishes suddenly and lets everyone know the night is finally over.

I haven't listened to the track either - I'm sort of guessing from the description you've given.


Posted by Dave Piazza on Oct-05-2004 10:48:

4 Options:

1. use it as the 1st track in the mix.

2. mix it in during break down of record 2.

3. mix it in during the outro of record 2 ( make sure the melody is in key) for example you have the beats of record 1 playing whilst the melody of record 2 is also playing.

4. if its a techy type of tune than a backspin and do a fade into the tune might work. if its more trancy than this will sound stupid and you have to mix it in.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-05-2004 16:16:

Our friend Dave Piazza gives some good pointers.

I'm inclined to encourage you to challenge your DJ skills and see if you can't do option three properly (in key and in rythm) with an outgoing track. It can be done you just have to learn the rythm of the intro. One way of doing it is to match with the sections with drums in them and then go back to the intro.
A good DJ however should be able to feel the rythm even if there isn't one if you catch my drift.
Another thing to keep in mind is that if you need to make and adjustment to the tempo make it on the record that's playing out as if you do it on the incomming it will be really noticable.

You will probably find that there are other parts in that track that give you the option to mix in there too.

If you start using harmonics, tracks like this become a whole lot easier to work with as you can put them in all over the place. You could for example play one track and then substitute it's breakdown for this one etc... give people a bit of a mind fuck. Keep in mind that if you are playing a track the people want to hear it's not good to mess around with it too much.

As for mixing other tracks into it.. well that should be easy enough.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-05-2004 16:49:

pull an oakenfold and let the current track play out, then just start that one. then let it play out and start the next one.


Posted by dj chex on Oct-05-2004 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
pull an oakenfold and let the current track play out, then just start that one. then let it play out and start the next one.


Yeah, too bad oakenfold got too caught up in fame, im honestly not impressed anymore by his sets, and what he did to djs that opened for him. To me he's nothing more than a dickhead now.


Posted by Frisco on Oct-05-2004 18:50:

what did he do to the dj's that opened?


Posted by dj1212 on Oct-06-2004 04:51:

if using CDJs, re-edit and re-arrange the track. that always can make things fun and interesting.


Posted by dj chex on Oct-06-2004 06:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Frisco
what did he do to the dj's that opened?


I heard he would do stuff like turn off the table and start his set way before the last dj's song was finished. I also heard he was a total dickhead and wasn't cool w/ people playing prior to him. (big ego problem) But i can't vouch on it b/c i never opened for him, but i do have a friend that knows someone who opened for oakie and totally was pissed about his attitude.

Anyways, imo there are plenty of better djs out there and oakie is not nearly as good as he was back in the early 90s.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-06-2004 07:49:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
but i do have a friend that knows someone who opened for oakie


Your brother's friend's cousin's girlfriend's father-in-law?
Joking.

Wouldn't surprise me if thats true though.........


Posted by D Dubya on Oct-06-2004 08:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Your brother's friend's cousin's girlfriend's father-in-law?
Joking.

Wouldn't surprise me if thats true though.........


No, seriously, my hair stylists' dog trainer's boyfriend's fiancee once opened for Oakie and said that guy is a total dick


Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-06-2004 11:29:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
Anyways, imo there are plenty of better djs out there and oakie is not nearly as good as he was back in the early 90s.


Without a doubt, Oakie Sucks ass. Oakie was good then because he was doing things that no one else thought of. The problem for him is that he hasn't changed with the times and DJs have got much better but he hasn't.
When I met Oakie, my ex-g/f said he looked like a neanderthal. He also pissed everyone off that works at the club that night. I wasn't playing that night but my friend opened up for him and he did the same thing with his last track. Just switched it off and thrust the record at him as if to say 'take this shit and get out of here'.
The guy can't mix or atleast can't be bothered to.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by Wacky Hacky on Oct-10-2004 16:16:

How about mixing in a track that will be right before a build-up when that record ends? I.e. trying to make the second record sound as part of the first.

Age Of Love - Age Of Love (Watch Out For The Stella Club Mix) is also a record with a climax as an ending. Works great with this trick.


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-10-2004 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by dj chex
I heard he would do stuff like turn off the table and start his set way before the last dj's song was finished. I also heard he was a total dickhead and wasn't cool w/ people playing prior to him. (big ego problem) But i can't vouch on it b/c i never opened for him, but i do have a friend that knows someone who opened for oakie and totally was pissed about his attitude.

Anyways, imo there are plenty of better djs out there and oakie is not nearly as good as he was back in the early 90s.



he was a dick to my friend. You'll see in nov when spike tv comes out with their reality show the club. My friend got i think 3rd in a contest so he opened up on a night oakie did and got interviewed by him. he asked my buddy, "so are you going to be playing new songs or the same ones in your demo?"

heh, also oakie was playing off the dummy mixer. There were two mixers in the dj booth and both my buddy and the other dj played off one, but when oakie got on there he played off the other shut off one. heh, which means he was playing a cd. he said he moved over to the other mixer after a little while....classic.


Posted by dj chex on Oct-11-2004 05:54:

it did sound like i was bull-shittin you, but im serious. I actually work w/ sean, who did hold residancies at BeachAm, and a few other clubs in FL. He also does website design for many djs in florida, including Dj Magic Mike. (BTW, hes good friends w/ him too)

check it out. www.djseancriss.com

Sometimes you ppl need to be a little more trusting



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