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Posted by Trunker on Oct-05-2004 21:12:

Dunno New equipment suggestions

Well I had this thread in the DJ promotions forum before. But I've gotten some research done thanks to the feedback I recieved, and now I have a new question:
Comparing the prices of dual CDJ 100's, and one Denon DN-S5000, and they are pretty close. Can one DN-S5000 be a perfect substitute for two CD player's like they claim? Or maybe I should go with the DN D9000, (which is a dual CD player)?
Moreover, if I do get a Denon product, should I go with a Denon mixer? Somebody please inform me of my ignorance...
Mainly, I just don't see the point of putting down $1000 on some semi-decent equipment, only to want to upgrade to pro equipment later...


Posted by beats and beeps on Oct-05-2004 22:01:

Youre fine with a non denon mixer, and a denon cd player. I prefer denon cd players and vestax mixers.

Mixing with a dns5000 is very possible, you can control, and cue the alpha track (and loop i think) i would guess it would be a bit of a pain in the ass.

Mixing with 2 cdj100s would be more instantly gratifying, but youll find yourself wanting to upgrade pretty quickly. The main reason is that the have 0.1 pitch, while the dns5000 has 0.02. So i would spend the money on 1 dns5000, and tough it out until you can get a second one.

Once you do have a second 1, youll have 2 great cd players with 4 samplers (each one has 2 samplers) A bunch of hot cues, and each having an alpha track (this would be like mixing on 4 decks, great if youre into techno) And accurate pitch.

You might want to look into getting 2 dns3000s, they are much cheaper than a dns5000.. It only has 1 sampler, and no alpha track though, but the important thing is that it has 0.02 pitch.

Cdj800 is also an option, its about the same price as a dns3000, no sampler, or spinning platter, and less accurate pitch (0.05) You might prefer its feel though.

EDIT: When i was getting my setup, i was considering getting 1 dns5000, and waiting a looong time to get a second one, or getting a pair of dns3000s. I went with the pair of 3000s.


Posted by Trunker on Oct-06-2004 01:03:

Man... I've been on litterally all day researching my options. The more I research, the more overwhelmed I feel with my posibilities.
AAAAARRRG!


Posted by starlabs on Oct-06-2004 08:14:

Mixing on one S5000 would be an option, but it's a pain. You'd have to burn your cd's in a particular way (ie can't really mix in and out your cd's).

Personally I think you're better off getting a dual cd player, like the D9000 you mentioned, or the Pioneer CMX 3000 - so unless you're really into scratching, those are fine for mixing.

And 0.05 pitch accuracy (ie CDJ-800) is fine IMO, unless you're doing very long seamless house/prog house mixes. And for a grand you can get two new CDJ-800s off Ebay (although without the full-on warranty since they're not authorized dealers), but still that's a good deal, and Pioneer stuff is generally very solid quality-wise. You can also contact a TA here (DJ Tranz); he may hook you up with some nice deals...


Posted by Trunker on Oct-07-2004 19:39:

Thank you guys for your feedback. After all this time, I think I'm going to go with the DN D9000.
Although, I'm still unsure about the mixer... lol. Maybe I'll just get the DN X800... it has some added features for Denon decks, or am I mistaken?


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Oct-07-2004 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Trunker
Man... I've been on litterally all day researching my options. The more I research, the more overwhelmed I feel with my posibilities.
AAAAARRRG!


Why do you want CDJ's? Theres not really alot of tunes available on cd...your better off with 2 technics MK2's and a Vestax PCV 275


Posted by DjVash on Oct-08-2004 07:46:

Re: New equipment suggestions

quote:
Originally posted by Trunker
Can one DN-S5000 be a perfect substitute for two CD player's like they claim?

Beats and beeps: How come everybody gets all wrapped up if the display shows the pitch in 0,1%? Who says that the pitch can't be more accurate then the display is showing? (e.g. Numark TTX, CDX, etc.)


Posted by tu_face on Oct-08-2004 08:35:

Re: Re: New equipment suggestions

quote:
Originally posted by DjVash
Beats and beeps: How come everybody gets all wrapped up if the display shows the pitch in 0,1%? Who says that the pitch can't be more accurate then the display is showing? (e.g. Numark TTX, CDX, etc.)


i always thought the cdx had a 0.1% increment..? if not how precise is it?


Posted by wiregen on Oct-08-2004 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by starlabs
And 0.05 pitch accuracy (ie CDJ-800) is fine IMO, unless you're doing very long seamless house/prog house mixes. And for a grand you can get two new CDJ-800s off Ebay (although without the full-on warranty since they're not authorized dealers), but still that's a good deal, and Pioneer stuff is generally very solid quality-wise. You can also contact a TA here (DJ Tranz); he may hook you up with some nice deals...


Just to let you know I got a pair of CDJ-1000's for 1000$ on ebay its like buy 1 get 1 free!


Posted by beats and beeps on Oct-08-2004 17:02:

Re: Re: New equipment suggestions

quote:
Originally posted by DjVash
Beats and beeps: How come everybody gets all wrapped up if the display shows the pitch in 0,1%? Who says that the pitch can't be more accurate then the display is showing? (e.g. Numark TTX, CDX, etc.)

Because it is a digital deck, not analog. With cd players the pitch increases by the percentage shown in your display. If you have it set on the widest range, there will not be any change in pitch when you move the slide just a bit until the next increment is made. This is why people can say their 1200s are more accurate than any cd player on the market.

With TTX you have analog pitch, with a digital display, thats why it can be more accurate than the display shows. The display is just rounding it. The CDX is digital, so 0.1 is as accurate as you can get.


Posted by Trunker on Oct-08-2004 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Why do you want CDJ's? Theres not really alot of tunes available on cd...your better off with 2 technics MK2's and a Vestax PCV 275

I want CDJ's for one main reason: I CAN MIX MY OWN STUFF. Unless you know of a way to get my music on vinyl, I don't really have another option.


Posted by Wraith on Oct-08-2004 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by starlabs
You can also contact a TA here (DJ Tranz); he may hook you up with some nice deals...


Yea, I'd recommend e-mailing DJ Tranz to see what he can do for you. He hooked me up nicely with a new mixer and some monster cables at a nice TA discount.


Posted by Cheetah86 on Oct-09-2004 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Trunker
I want CDJ's for one main reason: I CAN MIX MY OWN STUFF. Unless you know of a way to get my music on vinyl, I don't really have another option.



http://www.chemicalrecords.co.uk , click "dubplate" on the menu navigation on the left side


Posted by starlabs on Oct-09-2004 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Cheetah86
http://www.chemicalrecords.co.uk , click "dubplate" on the menu navigation on the left side


1 dubplate: �60 ($106 USD, I believe)

1 cd: $0.25

It's an option. If yer rich.


Posted by Trunker on Oct-09-2004 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Cheetah86
http://www.chemicalrecords.co.uk , click "dubplate" on the menu navigation on the left side

Well considering I can't get a track that's over 7:30 (which a couple of mine are), and it's over $100 per track, that's pretty much out of the question!


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Oct-10-2004 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Trunker
Well considering I can't get a track that's over 7:30 (which a couple of mine are), and it's over $100 per track, that's pretty much out of the question!


Theres Traktor DJ and other programs that allow you to mix your own MP3'w/WAV's...CD's aren't your only choice.


Posted by Trunker on Oct-11-2004 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Trunker
Well considering I can't get a track that's over 7:30 (which a couple of mine are), and it's over $100 per track, that's pretty much out of the question!

Well, yes. I already knew of that sort of mixing, such as Atomix which is what I use. But that's just not the same...


Posted by Trunker on Oct-19-2004 06:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Wraith
Yea, I'd recommend e-mailing DJ Tranz to see what he can do for you. He hooked me up nicely with a new mixer and some monster cables at a nice TA discount.

Um... how do I get ahold of DJ Tranz? I can't find a profile search or anything.



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