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I wanna be a DJ what i need to buy and learn?
ok i wanna be a DJ and i dont know what i need to do firs...
how to start? which equipment i need??
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Simple, really.
Cheers.
2 turntables, or 2 cdplayer, 1 mixer, records.
and you're a dj
depends if you just want to be a dj or a dj and producer to be a dj sonicstyle has sed all the things ya really need
but to produce ya need alot mors etuff such as samplers effects pads a computer wiv software the list can go on for ages but ya can doit just on ya pc wiv a program like cubase fruity loops reason etc a load of vsts and vstis yav just goto nock em together am sure therell b a guide around if ya wanna no how to do it
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| Originally posted by Cryogenic A kewl avatar picturing, yourself with headphones, yourself with a martial arts weapon, or picture of a hawt babe...a top-5-choon list in your sig, a l33t alliance-pic, and an attitude on these boards. Simple, really. Cheers. |
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| Originally posted by Sonicstyle 2 turntables, or 2 cdplayer, 1 mixer, records. and you're a dj |
and if i wanna make a trance??
what i need?
2x sl 1200 mk2 with ortofon or stanton scratchmaster needles + rodec/dateq/pioneer/ecler/allen&heath mixer.
Some good closed headphones with as much isolation as possible (sennheiser hd 280pro totally rocks)
amplifier and some good monitors
That's if you don't want to waste your money on cheap ass copies of the real stuff, you're gonna end up with one of the above anyway.
Maybe buy some cheaper needles in the beginning cause a starting dj is rather rude.
I don't know what you mean with "and if i wanna make a trance??
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| Originally posted by Or-M and if i wanna make a trance?? what i need? |
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| Originally posted by Or-M and if i wanna make a trance?? what i need? |
One question you should ask yourself...would you rather dj more than anything else in the world or are you attracted by the celebratorial and financial benefits a top-ranked Dj enjoys?
If the former is your answer then by all mean pursue your interest w/ vigor. If, however, you are enamored w/ the notion of money then there are better more predictable ways to financial prosperity.
don't bother...if you really really want to be a DJ then just use cd's....I used to be a DJ for 7 years and now that I am retired I have thousands of dollars of records that are worth shit and two techniques 1200's that are sitting in their casses. Going the 12" rout will make you end up possibly spending hundreds of dollars every few weeks.
Limit, aren't CD singles equally expensive as vinyl singles (I'm not being sarcastic, this is an actual question) ? Or are you saying you would rather have bought the cheaper mp3's ? (but they sound like shit !) And most tracks, if you want them before anyone else (unless you're a big name Dj who gets promo CD's) can only be found on vinyl .. as far as I know. Could you give some more info on the CD stuff maybe ? Or PM me if people don't care to be arsed in this thread. Because I also find vinyl to be pretty darn expensive, butit's easily forgotten once you spin them at a gig 
But still, I would like to hear some of your solutions to the things mentioned in my post.
Cheers
First of all - to the thread starter - do you want to make your own trance music, or do you want to play records, possibly to an audience? Just trying to make the distinction between producer and DJ a bit clearer, it can be very confusing to those not in the know...
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| Originally posted by BelgianGuru Limit, aren't CD singles equally expensive as vinyl singles (I'm not being sarcastic, this is an actual question) ? Or are you saying you would rather have bought the cheaper mp3's ? (but they sound like shit !) And most tracks, if you want them before anyone else (unless you're a big name Dj who gets promo CD's) can only be found on vinyl .. as far as I know. Could you give some more info on the CD stuff maybe ? Or PM me if people don't care to be arsed in this thread. Because I also find vinyl to be pretty darn expensive, butit's easily forgotten once you spin them at a gig But still, I would like to hear some of your solutions to the things mentioned in my post.Cheers |
to limit. you cannot use mp3s to DJ out. mp3 is a form of compression that works by taking the full waveform of a song and then cuts the inaudible/ultra high/ultra low frequencies out but i should stress - you will lose something that wasnt meant to be lost when you squash a file into a fifth of its actual size (and thats about 320kbps). significantly below that (192kbps) and below you can hear quite clearly the difference if you play them side by side on a home stereo at low volume. how much is cut out depends on the compression ratio. the waveform afterwards is considerably smaller than before. now its hard to explain but you can feel inaudible frequencies. when a dog whistle goes off near you, you cant hear anything but your ear twitches and you do notice something. same in music. worst offenders are 1) sub frequencies arent complete even in 320kbps mp3 and this absolutely kills sub heavy tracks. or the sub cuts off for the whole song. what a way to ruin a stomper. 2) the ultra highs disappear so stuff like hats loses their top end and alot of percussion beginds to feel tinny. you can notice it if you put a cd on and an mp3 copy of it side by side. its even more noticeable at club level volumes.
although i do agree that it pays peanuts. i dont expect to make any significant amount of money from my DJing or production. i just do it cuz i love it.
to the thread starter. a DJ is a person who has 2 turntables and a mixer + speakers and mixes commercially available music. a producer is a person who writes dance music (broadly speaking. a producer assembles the record and creates the instruments and can do so either for themselves or for other people. in dance music the producer usually always writes their own music too). a producer would use things like synthesizers, samplers, grooveboxes (quite often a turntable too). theres a big difference. if you want to write trance music you should get yourself a copy of fl studio or some such application and screw around with it for a few months. if you like it, get yourself some instruments (VSTi or hardware. some VSTi instruments: reFX vanguard, G-Media impOSCar, linplug albino etc. some hardware synths to look into: access virus classic (rack mount is cheaper), clavia nord lead 2x (rackmount is cheaper), korg ms2000).
if you want to DJ you might want to invest in those technics 1200s. they are expensive decks but if you choose to persue DJing seriously you will end up with these in the end either way. almost every club that has decks on the premises has 1200s so if you can spin records on them you can spin records anywhere. if you choose not to persue it seriously 1200s generally have good resell values provided you look after them.
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| Originally posted by Limit I'm just sayin' that go for cd's at first...use mp3's..i'm pretty sure you can get em at 192 or even higher bit rates to burn...this is a much cheaper solution... |
That's weird Dez, I live in the same country as you do, in our capital, and most of the parties that are medium sized have CD players as a standard and Tech-12's as 'optional' meaning that I have to tell them I want some 
I haven't spinned in any of our clubs yet (except for a contest) so I don't know anything about that, maybe you do. I don't think it's an issue though, if you spin with CD or vinyl, the organisation will rent/get whatever you need/ask for.
I can't believe I'm sayin' this because I stricly against CD djing...but cd's will last longer and sound better. Man I can't belieb I just said that. I remeber teh first tim I tried to spin with cd's..it was horrible...I don't know but I just love the vinyl.
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| Originally posted by Limit I can't believe I'm sayin' this because I stricly against CD djing...but cd's will last longer and sound better. Man I can't belieb I just said that. I remeber teh first tim I tried to spin with cd's..it was horrible...I don't know but I just love the vinyl. |
Weird, at the university the professor told us the exact opposite, a burned CD (the stuff you do at home) will last longer then a pressed CD (the stuff you buy in stores).
eh? ive worn out a few really old vinyls by playing them constantly.
i used to like vinyl only for the feel and just because im used to spinning 12 inch records. i hate spinning the 6 inchers. too small and fiddly. so when i first got on a cd deck i hated it. but. you can do mad scratches on cd decks...stuff that would normally jog the needle or wreck a vinyl completely. the pitch control is insane. + you can burn cds full of dj tools and create sound FX cds for scratching, live performance, production. doing that is easier and more convenient than pressing the stuff you need to a record. overall its just more versatile than a turntable. but it takes loads of getting used to. and if you've been spinning 12 inchers for years i can see a few vinyl purists never going digital as long as records are still on sale.
honest;y i can say that if I were to ever go back to DJing I don;t think that I would use cd's...It's just not the same. If IU'm spinning I'm using vinyl and thats the send of it. But I see your point.
While I used to always use records when I DJ'ed, if you are just starting learn the basics with CD's. You can start with MP3's and you CD collection, and you will not have to spend days upon days looking for the old limited DJ version of some odd record.
CD's also have the benefit of being able to burn copies so if some fuck at a party raids your shit, you will lose hard to find records, or worry about breaking a record on a scratch. Also if your buddies are into the scene you can share shit by burning.
I wish I had the shit out now when I started to DJ. Back in like 92 when I was spinning CD DJ's were a joke and the internet was not as big, so I would have to take 3 hour trips to spend all my money on records whihc now I do not even listen too. It would have been so much cooler if I could have just used CD's.
I started in 96 with a set of belt drive SoundLab numbers and a cheap KAM mixer. Nowadays theres a hell of a lot more out there for your money. I'm considering a set of CDJ100S's from Pioneer and using some CDRs with burned MP3s just to keep in there. I've also got the 1210s and a PS626 mixer but rarely play with it.
R.
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