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Posted by bass drive on Oct-08-2004 10:23:

Should Tuekry be allowed into the EU?

???


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Oct-08-2004 11:09:

Personally I think they should. They still have some issues to discuss about with EU, but once they fulfill all the criteria, I don't see the problem with it. It's a modern secular country, and it would bring in a fresh workforce. I don't think current EU members should be overly worried about a huge muslim population influx, as there already are millions of turks working in Germany and other EU countries. Especially since those muslims are pretty much secular compared to those from other muslim countries.


Posted by bass drive on Oct-08-2004 11:31:

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Personally I think they should. They still have some issues to discuss about with EU, but once they fulfill all the criteria, I don't see the problem with it. It's a modern secular country, and it would bring in a fresh workforce. I don't think current EU members should be overly worried about a huge muslim population influx, as there already are millions of turks working in Germany and other EU countries. Especially since those muslims are pretty much secular compared to those from other muslim countries.


I believe the Turks you speak of, are those from the European part. In the east it's quite different.


Posted by FederalBI on Oct-08-2004 21:37:

my answer was in 20 yrs or so , beacsue turks are still old minded i don't they will feet in.


Posted by Ian on Oct-08-2004 22:05:

I say No, not until they sort out their racism issues, that is not something we want in Europe. As said before, a lot of turks have migrated into other countries anyway, it's not hard for them, but at the moment I don't think they have the mind-set needed and I think their attitudes in many issues needs dealing with first


Posted by Yoepus on Oct-08-2004 22:37:

Thumbs up

yup


but why would they would actually want too is a different matter


Posted by Konijn on Oct-08-2004 22:41:

cities like istanbul and ankara are major cosmopolitan centers that could easily mesh with the rest of europe, but large swaths of the country are still in the middle ages; that's to say nothing of turkey's repeated citations for human rights abuses, particularly in regard to the kurds


Posted by biznology on Oct-08-2004 22:48:

Yeah, even before the fall of the Iron Curtain Turkey was an ally of most Western European powers in the Mid East - so therefore they likely could have been in before E Euro countries. (Not to disqualify their merits)

Turkey has a lot of issues to deal with, but considering their orientations and in comparison to other nations in the area their ethnic distribution could be actually a stabilizing factor esp with a LOT of Turkish peoples or relations in Germany, et al. Kurds, Turks, Muslims and non coexist there reasonably well, and the fact that Israel is trying to join the EU - and perhaps could join before Turkey is highly suspect. (Read: they arent in Europe) Yet Turkey and Israel are strong allies due to the lack of Israel's airspace|


Posted by imokruok on Oct-09-2004 02:09:

New poll: What's the worst misspelling of Turkey that you've ever seen?


Posted by DR86 on Oct-09-2004 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by imokruok
New poll: What's the worst misspelling of Turkey that you've ever seen?


rofl.

i voted no.


Posted by JM on Oct-09-2004 07:11:

hell no then you let Muslims rule europe even more. not to mention they are violent thugs in Germany.

>JM<


Posted by policerobots on Oct-09-2004 15:22:

err..turkey is spelled wrong in the subject haha


Posted by bass drive on Oct-09-2004 17:00:

if turkey gets into the EU, it will be the 2nd larget pop in "Europe" after Germnay


Posted by St_Andrew on Oct-09-2004 17:32:

I think they should.

as long as they work and fix all their democratic and equality (between men and women etc) issues.

quote:
Originally posted by bass drive
if turkey gets into the EU, it will be the 2nd larget pop in "Europe" after Germnay


so what?


Posted by malek on Oct-09-2004 18:03:

NO


Posted by Virus on Oct-09-2004 23:04:

No!


Posted by fastmp3 on Oct-09-2004 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by JM
hell no then you let Muslims rule europe even more. not to mention they are violent thugs in Germany.

>JM<



i hate you now


Posted by St_Andrew on Oct-09-2004 23:45:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
NO


quote:
Originally posted by Virus
No!


Why?


Posted by .montecarlo. on Oct-10-2004 00:25:

Turkey should be allowed to negotiate EU accession if they can realistically meet the economic, political, and social stability requirements of EU membership (assuming there is popular support for their accession in both the EU and Turkey). Although it is possible they'll make the cut in the future, I don't think it will happen any time soon.

Here's a good read: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enlargeme...endation_en.pdf


Posted by malek on Oct-10-2004 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
Why?


they are as europeans as africans or chinese are.


Posted by FederalBI on Oct-10-2004 10:13:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
they are as europeans as africans or chinese are.

first time i actually agree with you :/
turkey is in asia they aren't in europe.


Posted by arctic on Oct-10-2004 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by JM
hell no then you let Muslims rule europe even more. not to mention they are violent thugs in Germany.

>JM<


Honestly, your comments are getting more and more absurd.

Care to explain how letting in one relatively secular country with a majority Islamic population would allow Muslims to 'rule' Europe? Come to think of it, your comments are somewhat representative of the typical arguments advanced by people on the lunatic right. If racism and/or religious vilification and discrimination is the best reason people can come up with to exclude Turkey from the EU -- then all the more reason to let them in.


Posted by St_Andrew on Oct-10-2004 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
they are as europeans as africans or chinese are.


that is somewhat true. i would still think they could fit into the EU tho.


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on Oct-10-2004 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
they are as europeans as africans or chinese are.


How exactly would you define European? If it's a country whose territorry extends over Europe, then they satisfy the criteria. If it's a country that's historically been involved in European affairs, again they meet the requirement. If their ethnicity needs to be similar to current Europeans, then let us not forget that Turkish areas were once populated by Greeks and Romans. European countries vary much in their culture and local customs that perhaps the only common denominator for every single EU member is their christian past. Turkey has had a great influence on Europe in the past, especially since they controlled practically all of Balkan peninsula. There are so many references to Turkish language and customs that you can find in previously occupied areas, especially in Bosnia, that it's reasonable to say they are in accordance with a large amount of (future) EU population. Europe, and especially southern one, would be much different without Turkish influence, and Turkey itself has adopted many European customs and traditions. But most importantly, Turkish citizens want to become a part of the EU, and they are willing to change their customs and laws even more in order to join in. They have satisfied the majority of important criteria, and frankly I can't see how they differ much from any other southern EU country. Sure, they have their own local uniquenesses, but generally they are as European as every other European country.


Posted by JM on Oct-10-2004 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
Honestly, your comments are getting more and more absurd.


absurd they may be. not nearly as offensive or extreme as many posts by a certain few individuals in this forum.

quote:
Care to explain...


nah not really do i ever care to explain?

i just like seeing people's reaction, seeing how much effort and energy people put into something as meaningless as this forum



cheers!

>JM<


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