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Posted by djbruuen on Oct-08-2004 15:26:

Cd Dj Question???

hi, to all the cd dj's, i was wondering, when you guys make a cd-r...how many songs do you usually compile onto a cd? and do lots of you usually make copies in case you want to play two songs on the same cd back to back???


Posted by D Dubya on Oct-08-2004 15:49:

I just pack what fits, and yes, I do make duplicates


Posted by starlabs on Oct-08-2004 17:47:

You know, that's a good question. I had been pondering it for awhile, and while having 13+ tracks on a cd is quite a space savings, I opted for doing it vinyl-style: 1 track per cd.

The reasons I did the 1-per-cd method:

- Extra info on the cd.
I like to write the full artist name, track name, genre, bpm, etc on the cd. If I have 13+ tracks, it won't fit!

- Extra data on the cd.
Not a big deal.. but with 1 track I can make it a hybrid cd (data+audio). 1 audio track, 1 data track containing the wave as a .wav file, the mp3 encoded versions, etc...

- Slightly easier organization of cds
I can mix 'n match, put the cds in whatever order. If I put multiple tracks on a cd, I'd have to put "similar" ones of some sort onto the same cd, otherwise finding which track on which cd ends up being a major pain.

In addition, if the CD player doesn't support CD-TEXT, I won't remember which tracks are in what order unless I print them out on a separate piece of paper and stick it somewhere. Sure I can move to each track and listen to it to identify them instead, but that's wasted time and effort IMO.

These are just my personal reasons. Do what's comfortable for you. I waste a lot of CD capacity doing it 1-per-cd.


Posted by razzi on Oct-08-2004 18:04:

you could have 1 track on a cd, with all of the remixes. so you could have 1 cd of just coldplay - clocks and all of its remixes. you get more data per cd, but can still arrange your cds more accurately..

but yes you will waste alot of cd space. i used to fit as many tracks as i could onto a cd, and then make a duplicate. that way instead of using 13 cdrs.. i use 2.

razzi


Posted by jamiepollock643 on Oct-08-2004 19:48:

ughhh! i cudnt do that lol, im def a single vinyl style burning person, pretty much everything i buy now i put onto cdr, i burn that track and if it has any remixes b sides etc. I cudnt handle 13 tracks on cdr that wud piss me off id be spending more time reading cdrs than actually picking out the next track lol


Posted by djbruuen on Oct-08-2004 22:22:

thanks guys...after thinking it over a bit...i'm thinking maybe get like 10 tracks on each cd...get two big 256 cd cases, make duplicates and do things that way...and that can be like my record box i'm pretty organized with it, so i'd just print off the tracklist and slide them behind...is there a such thing as 'dividers' for large cd cases where you can use them as markers to easily flip through different genres in your collection??? thanks


Posted by nrjizer on Oct-08-2004 23:10:

I dont have my CDJ-1000 yet (SO SOON!), but when I do start burning CDRs I plan on burning one track per CD, then loading up each CD with an assload of samples, scratch sounds, and other goodies, so after I beatmatch I can sit back and hammer those until it's time to mix.


Posted by djbruuen on Oct-08-2004 23:23:

^ i don't understand that? how can you play samples that are saved as tracks on the same cd as the track thats currently playing the song?


Posted by nrjizer on Oct-09-2004 03:24:

You can't.

But what I'm saying is, after I beat match real fast and have the pitch set where I want it, I can skip over real quick to one of my samples and wail on it. Or hit the sample real quick, then beat match. Or beat match a little bit, switch over and sample, then go back to beat matching (auto cue will be nice).


Posted by DJ Sid on Oct-09-2004 08:45:

you could make cdr's with a load of tracks from only 1 artist on it

eg a cd with tracks of Ti�sto, one with Ferry Corsten, one with AvB, one with PvD, etc...


Posted by IgnazZio on Oct-09-2004 16:57:

About 10 tracks / cd


Posted by CraSHer[UK] on Oct-11-2004 11:30:

I burn about 8 - 10 tracks to cd, but i really would do 1 per cd if i was playing out, coz a lot of the time, when you are quick to swap cd's over and running out of time on the outgoing track, its all to easy just to throw the finsihed cd whereever, then coz you have so many tracks on each cd, i simply number them (coz as was said earlier you cannot write all the info you need on the actual cd), and then to pick out another cd track, you have to match the cd to the cases to find pick a tune out and play it, very anoooying and time consuming if like me you become untidy in the heat of things.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-11-2004 15:59:

As I don't play that much CD I don't have a sure fire way of doing it, but what I tend to do is burn what I want to use on to two CDs and then just leave em in the CDJs all night and just go to them when I need them.
As I said, I don't play a lot of CDs.

The stuff I get is usually straight from producers anyways so they are recorded straight from source so less data has been lost resulting in less reduction in sound quality.

I also do my own mashups and like to throw them in, giving a creative edge to my mixing and giving people something that they have never heard before.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by ionized on Oct-12-2004 00:39:

I usually stick about 5-8 tracks on one cd and make duplicates. I have one of those fold out cd books that can hold something like 100 cds or something. I think I'm up to about 20 now. I have the track names and numbers on the CDs written on labesl tucked into the cd sleeves. It works pretty well.

I thought about going down the one track road, but when you download 20 tracks and want to burn them all, its a lot less painless to burn 3 or 4 cds rather than 20.

I takes a little bit longer to find which track I'm after, but then so does sifting through a case of vinyl to find the track you want.


Posted by Luke Cartwright on Oct-12-2004 15:17:

I usually put as many as I can fit onto the 80 mins.(usually about 8 or 9) If I have enough tunes from one artist to fill the cd then thats how I'll do it but if not then they go in styles or genres eg. vocals, basslines, trance or prog etc.

I don't have enought time to put 1 track to 1 cd, it would take me forever and I'd never have time to mix, I get pissed off doing it my way as it takes 20 mins to burn one full cd at 4x so I think I'd go mad if I did that.

I always try to burn my tunes as wav files and then convert them afterwards to prevent any loss in sound and save space but if I only have an mp3 copy then thats the only option.

I use a program called audio cleaning lab deluxe to do all this, it is really good as levels can be set before burning so all the tunes on the cd are the same level, one thing that really pisses me off is quite mp3s.

Once all this is done they are labeled up and put in a plastic wallet I have done 12 full cd's so far (about 100 tunes) since i've had my numark cdx (about a month) taking me a total of about 6 hours, it is time consuming but I suppose its worth it in the end.



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