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Posted by `pr0digy on Oct-11-2004 01:33:

Dual CDDecks

Hi to all, haven't posted in quite a while

Anyways, I'm in the market for a (cheap) dual cd deck. I've never looked much into CDJ's, nor dual cd decks, and I'm not quite sure which brands have a good rep, and which brands have a bad rep. I'm looking for a unit which is a good bang for the buck, yet one that I won't want to upgrade from in the next few months. Any help is appricated


Posted by R.j. on Oct-11-2004 01:39:

Re: Dual CDDecks

quote:
Originally posted by `pr0digy
Hi to all, haven't posted in quite a while

Anyways, I'm in the market for a (cheap) dual cd deck. I've never looked much into CDJ's, nor dual cd decks, and I'm not quite sure which brands have a good rep, and which brands have a bad rep. I'm looking for a unit which is a good bang for the buck, yet one that I won't want to upgrade from in the next few months. Any help is appricated


i use american audio dual cd players... pretty good.


Posted by beats and beeps on Oct-11-2004 01:45:

I think denons are what most clubs carry in the dual section. Dn-D9000, and Dn-D4000. Dn-d6000 will be released some point in the future. Its basically 2 dn-s1000s except with 0.02 pitch rather than 0.1, and samplers, so it has all the effects and such as the dns1000. It looks very promising, if i was to get a dual player i would probably go for it.
http://dn-s5000.com/index.php?name=...11646730573c6c6

Numark makes good dual cd players as well. See cdn90, and other models.

Pioneer is another option, but ive heard of too many problems with the cmx to consider it.


Posted by dartman on Oct-11-2004 02:30:

my personal favorite are the denon 2600s but they dont make them anymore. the dn-4000s are really nice and not alot of money, the 9000s have a ton of extra stuff but they are alot more $$$. i would go with the 4000s or find a set of used 2600s


Posted by PSX50 on Oct-11-2004 16:43:

in terms of mixing are dual cd players as accurate as a standard cdj like a cdj-300? I wanna be able to start utilizing my cd collection but i wanna get something that will last me a while and also allow me to make tight mixes. I know everyone always talks about pitch increment, but other than that what other advantages does a single cdj hold over a dual deck?


Posted by starlabs on Oct-11-2004 18:27:

If you're not going to be doing any significant amount of scratching, then there is really no other large advantage that 2 cd decks will have over a dual cd deck - if they have the same pitch increments.

You might not like the shorter pitch faders on dual decks however. But you would probably get used to them.


Posted by `pr0digy on Oct-12-2004 02:58:

What's the normal price point on used 2600's ? Remember, I'm looking for a decent budget dual CD deck, and the only 2600's I saw seemed rather pricey.


Posted by dartman on Oct-12-2004 05:33:

2600s got down to $1000 new before they got discontinued. I would think that you should be able to pick some up fairly cheap on ebay or whatever. i dont really know what they go for now but i guess it really depends on what kind of shape they are in.


Posted by Dave Piazza on Oct-14-2004 12:07:

i have the Dn-D4000.


Everything you need. Excellent price. Quality brand.


Posted by Max Thomson on Oct-14-2004 12:09:

Whats the pitch res on the D4000?


Posted by Dave Piazza on Oct-14-2004 12:14:

im not sure. You have to check the product website.

I had the dn-s5000 before and sold it and bought this instead.


Posted by Cheetah86 on Oct-14-2004 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Max Thomson
Whats the pitch res on the D4000?


0.1% at all ranges, according to http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/pdfs/dnd4000dfu.pdf , page 15.


Posted by tubby on Oct-14-2004 23:54:

I've been using a cmx3000 at home for the last two years and am very happy with it. 0.05% @6% range (also has 10% and 100%) three hot cueues per side, nice big jog wheels, wave display, decent scratch feature.


Posted by Max Thomson on Oct-15-2004 00:00:

I think I'm gonna get the DN-D6000 cuz of the .02 increments, but if it was .05 in -/+ 10% mode that would be amazing


Posted by `pr0digy on Oct-15-2004 00:08:

Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm really looking for cheaper duals than what is being suggested. The 2600f (used) is still up around $400+. The CMX3000 is WAY out of my price range, even used. Same with the Denon 4000. Are the more budget minded duals okay to buy ? Are they worth getting, or do I really need to spend some cash to enjoy them ?

Anyone have any experiance with the Numark CDN-30 ? That's the price range I'm in, hopefully that budget can still get me some decent kit.


Posted by beats and beeps on Oct-15-2004 01:04:

look into numarks. Some people swear by american audio duals also.


Posted by tubby on Oct-15-2004 01:56:

ask yourself what features you really need. how many loops/hot cues, effects etc are worth the money? the only really important thing more expensive units offer is pitch resolution


Posted by `pr0digy on Oct-15-2004 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by tubby
ask yourself what features you really need. how many loops/hot cues, effects etc are worth the money? the only really important thing more expensive units offer is pitch resolution


That's what I am wondering the most... I mean, with regular TT's, you need DD tables, as long as they are DD, they aren't that bad. But, what's the standard for dual CD decks ? It seems (at least to me), like the cheaper ones would be just as good as the more expensive ones, sans the better pitch res of the REALLY expensive ones.


Posted by dartman on Oct-15-2004 05:21:

i own a set of really old school numark cdn-34s, they work, they do the trick but i would really like a set of 2600s or 4000s. the denons have higher quality buttons and the looping on them is alot easier to use. 4000s arent really that expensive, i think that you can get a set for around $500 or so. cheaper units might work for you but i think that it might be worth it to shell out a few more bucks and get a set of denons if you can.


Posted by tubby on Oct-15-2004 06:20:

well I use the scratch feature almost never, loop i'm working on but could live without, hot cues when I feel like messing about. The most important feature is it plays cd's. for all you can do, most people just want to be able to mix in cd's. anything that won't break down, and has acceptable pitch resolution for what you want to mix will do.


Posted by PSX50 on Oct-15-2004 17:37:

what does everyone think of the American audio dcd-400 its looks pretty solid and for 300 bucks is pretty cheap considering its functions. I can't seem to find a pitch increment anywhere but i'm assuming its .10 does anyone know?


Posted by spiralhelix on Oct-16-2004 01:40:

have u had a look at the tascam cd 302's ?

i have one and it works fine, no problems yet I got mine for 500 US dollars here in japan about a year ago. I'm sure they should be quite cheap now cos a new model has come out and they've never been particularly popular. I knew they had major problems in the earlier versions but make sure u get one of the last ones with software version update 4.0 or higher and it should be fine.

The thing i like most about the tascams is that that the remote controls can be split into too, so u can set them up on either side of your mixer like two single table top players


Posted by Steven Hays on Oct-21-2004 22:09:



I bought this because of the price ($300 USD) and the good reviews on various websites. They work great. I figured it out in a matter of 10 minutes and its not hard at all to make flawless mixes. If you're not into all the features other decks have, then this is the best bet for the price. Don't go with American Audio anything, they suck.

-Steve


Posted by PSX50 on Oct-21-2004 22:16:

is that a 550? i'm pretty sure those are down to $199 now. might have to look into that.



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