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Posted by dance2dabeat on Oct-11-2004 22:23:

It's all about the music!!!!

I just am curious to ask any of you T'A if you have friends that are not partiers and are totally against doing drugs such as E. I have the most amazing friends. What I love most about my friends is that they are different. But trying to explain to one of my good friends who has never partied that it is a choice I have made a long time ago is not as easy as it may sound. I know drugs are BAD and they have negative side affects and shit....but I think I am old enough and responsible enough to make my own choices and my friends should respect that. I have no regrets trying E. It honestly is the reason how I got into the whole electronic scene. I love the music, I love to dance. I have fallen in love with the scene to know now I don't need drugs, I only get high to dance till the very end!! I have partied sober before though...and I know I just have a blast the same. I love the music too much not to enjoy myself. One of my girls said to me the other day, "aww Kel you are so much better than that..." I have no response to this nor do I think I ever will. People that I know do drugs for the sake of getting F@#!%$ up I will never really understand. That is why I know my situation is different from that kind or crowd. My brother for example.......he will NEVER be a real partier, but yet he has tried the drug and has loved the buzz. I thought maybe him trying the drug would open his eyes to this amazing scene.......but not even close. So my thought is e has given me the gift of appreciating the best music ever and I am lucky to be part of this whole exerience. That is why I have no regrets, and people that think I am less of a person for this........well it is their loss. I guess the reason for this whole thread today is how do you guys deal with this sort of thing... I know I can't be the only one. In conclusion,if there were no music....well there definately would be no point to drugs. It really is all about the music!!


Posted by geroin on Oct-11-2004 22:41:

if you really do love your music etc you dont need drugs for that
a lot of my friends do drugs and i made a lot fo them quit and stop doing shit in exchange if they love their drug so much they can forget about me
i go for the past few years and i have been offered millions of times to try dozens of drugs and ive done nothing
i dontget it ENERGY DRINK does exactly the same
you wanna get tripped out you wanna get pumped out drink 2 fucken energie drinks 3 4 how many you need and you will dance your night away
drugs are for fucken junkies people who sell them and do them have no fucken future whatsoever and if you dont stop now you will see how much affect it does on you
i dont preach i dont care as long as they dont affect me you can do w/e you want, i can dance all night if i need to if i cant energy drinks saves it for me anyways i wrote too much already but that was my opinion on this topic


Posted by crazedcanuck on Oct-11-2004 22:54:

*chuckle*

Awwww.... kids.... both posts equally cute, however unintentionally in the case of the second one.


Posted by dance2dabeat on Oct-11-2004 22:59:

yeah I hear what your saying. The whole e thing is only an occasional for me now. All I am saying is that it's my choice to to what I want, and it doesn't make me less of a person. I am no where near a junky.


Posted by Playa24_7 on Oct-11-2004 23:13:

we dont take it to fuckin trip out, we take it for the way it makes you love the music just that much more, the people around you, the atmosphere. you understand even more how amazing the music is, and the club life with it, when you try E. so get it out of your heads that we somehow NEED it to enjoy the club, or we want to fuckin trip out and we do all these hardcore drugs all the time or something. its a super occasional thing, i dont do anything else, and as an example, i was totally sober for seeing armin lastnight, so there. unless you try it, then dont even say you know, and if you have, then you know, so why would you bitch? the reason, because you havent


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Oct-11-2004 23:21:

quote:
In conclusion,if there were no music....well there definately would be no point to drugs. It really is all about the music!!

it's 50-50 i think, edm and E go together. i have never had e somewhere else (regular club, chillin, etc), and i never go to the party (guv, boa - edm scene) without e.

about your friends bitching, honestly, they are your friends so maybe they're onto something, drugs can fuck up your thinking, it happens to best of us, so sometimes you should listen to the people that care about you (im not saying anything, just those people can see things that you probably cant).

my best friend doesnt do e or anything else, and maybe a year ago i was telling him like "man, next week armin is here, and then week after that im gonna go to boa, and the week after that...." so he told me "maybe you should chill for a while". i remeber telling him, "man you should respect what i want to do" and he did, he was just worried and said what was on his mind. i tought about it for a while and i didnt do shit for 4 months.

your friends will always bitch about drugs, so to make them happy (and just to see what's up) test yourself every now and then, your friends will see that you dont have a drug problem and probably they'll bitch less. everybody happy


Posted by VERTiG0 on Oct-11-2004 23:31:

Normally when I go out I get really drunk and have a great time, but when it wears off I am nothing more than another body taking up space on the dancefloor. Did E once at LOL3, and it was all well and good, won't do it again for a long time, if at all. Last night at Guv I had 1 beer when I got there at midnight, and that was it. Found that really good tunes have the same effect as E does. I think I'll be doing it totally sober from now on


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Oct-11-2004 23:37:

quote:
i dontget it ENERGY DRINK does exactly the same


believe me, it doesn't


Posted by Kytracid on Oct-11-2004 23:49:

Ahh seems like we have a few people who are experiencing the love affair with ecstasy. OR should i say, the joys of the honeymoon period which in my opinion is the best part of the whole E experience

Take it from someone who did his fair share, and now only drops on a 4-5 month basis, the key is what i suspect many of your dropping buddies will share with you. Moderation. It's easy the first few times to believe that there's nothing better then being lifted when you've done your roll. Everything just seems better, the music, the human contact, the vibe, the colors. Enjoy it the first few times, because truth be told the magic does ware off even if you regulate it.

What you can gain from doing E however is a certain perspective that i don't think you can truely achieve unless you have felt that euphoria that comes via rolling, and the great thing is -- you can actually carry that feeling long after comming off the high. The memories i've had when i first did E are some of the best ones i can remember. The friends i made during those experiences all agree that sharing that experience transformed an ordinary night into a truly magical one.

To have friends that tell you that you're better then a drug is a blessing. Because it's true. But that shouldn't stop you from doing it. If anything, i'd feel more comfortable knowing that there's an additional security buffer to warn me if i ever started dropping too often. I think as an adult you should be aware of the risks, but you should also be open to the many experiences (positive and negative) that come through using E. As long as you're safe, and make sure you get good dope and are surrounded by a knowledgable group of people who will look after you if things go bad then the risks you face are not much greater then if you went on to the bar for a crazy party (yes - i know ppl will disagree here, but this is just my opinion )

Ultimately it's the music that is important as you said...but if you can do a few things to enhance the experiencee, then go for it -- and have a rolling good time too


Posted by trancechaos on Oct-12-2004 00:08:

i could swear that we had a similar thread to this one a while ago.


Posted by starsearcher on Oct-12-2004 00:34:

*Raises hand*


Posted by crazedcanuck on Oct-12-2004 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by trancechaos
i could swear that we had a similar thread to this one a while ago.


It's essentially a bi-monthly occurance.

Let me save us all a lot of time here.

CLICHE

PREACHING

CLICHE

PREACHING

CLICHE

PREACHING

X INFINITY


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-12-2004 00:41:

Im no Nancy reagan but ive been partying since around 92 and ive never taken a pill in my life. Its a personal choice. I love the music and thats good enough for me. Sure this means that i usually cut out around 5 or 6 but it beats being cracker jacked for the next 3 days after being at comfort zone all afternoon. By 6 ive had enough usually and ive gotten my moneys worth (unless its unbelievably great and then i stay)

People who take pills and go for the music arent nec going because of the drugs but use them to enhance. Thats OK because i drink booze and have energy drinks and that does me fine. To each their own. The problem is when people come for the drugs and then the music becomes an after thought.


Posted by Playa24_7 on Oct-12-2004 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Im no Nancy reagan but ive been partying since around 92 and ive never taken a pill in my life. Its a personal choice. I love the music and thats good enough for me. Sure this means that i usually cut out around 5 or 6 but it beats being cracker jacked for the next 3 days after being at comfort zone all afternoon. By 6 ive had enough usually and ive gotten my moneys worth (unless its unbelievably great and then i stay)

People who take pills and go for the music arent nec going because of the drugs but use them to enhance. Thats OK because i drink booze and have energy drinks and that does me fine. To each their own. The problem is when people come for the drugs and then the music becomes an after thought.



very very true


Posted by LKD on Oct-12-2004 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
The problem is when people come for the drugs and then the music becomes an after thought.


like that certain kind we find in abundence in guv?

i personally do drugs on occasion...E, not as much (infact ive never tried E in a club.....oh wait i did...) I drink my ass of however cos i know when ive reached a goodenough buzz and can stop//


Posted by VERTiG0 on Oct-12-2004 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee
like that certain kind we find in abundence in guv?


I saw a whole bunch of cracked out older Asian people passed out, with their heads in one of the horn speakers on the floor. Jesus christ that shit blew my mind, why do people do that to themselves?


Posted by dEsidEL on Oct-12-2004 03:24:



i'm all about the muzak


Posted by LKD on Oct-12-2004 03:25:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


i'm all about the muzak



quiet u cracked out asian.....


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Oct-12-2004 04:14:

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm all this talk about drugs.. im giong to eat some rockets


Posted by Kytracid on Oct-12-2004 04:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
The problem is when people come for the drugs and then the music becomes an after thought.


Like 75% of the people found at the Guvernment on a saturday night, right ? Talk about crack city.


Posted by drewfactor on Oct-12-2004 06:27:

Re: It's all about the music!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by dance2dabeat I guess the reason for this whole thread today is how do you guys deal with this sort of thing... I know I can't be the only one. In conclusion,if there were no music....well there definately would be no point to drugs. It really is all about the music!!


I guess there's no point in stressing about it, people have different tastes and different likes etc...I guess that's what is part of being human, everybody is different.

I think you've expressed in your post something alot if not most of us in the scene also feel.


Look at it this way: Next time you're in the club, dancing and listening to the music, look around and see all the people that are feeling the music and digging the vibe. You're certainly not alone!

I'm sure people would still use drugs without music...but I get what you're saying.


Posted by drewfactor on Oct-12-2004 06:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Ahh seems like we have a few people who are experiencing the love affair with ecstasy. OR should i say, the joys of the honeymoon period which in my opinion is the best part of the whole E experience

Take it from someone who did his fair share, and now only drops on a 4-5 month basis, the key is what i suspect many of your dropping buddies will share with you. Moderation. It's easy the first few times to believe that there's nothing better then being lifted when you've done your roll. Everything just seems better, the music, the human contact, the vibe, the colors. Enjoy it the first few times, because truth be told the magic does ware off even if you regulate it.

What you can gain from doing E however is a certain perspective that i don't think you can truely achieve unless you have felt that euphoria that comes via rolling, and the great thing is -- you can actually carry that feeling long after comming off the high. The memories i've had when i first did E are some of the best ones i can remember. The friends i made during those experiences all agree that sharing that experience transformed an ordinary night into a truly magical one.

To have friends that tell you that you're better then a drug is a blessing. Because it's true. But that shouldn't stop you from doing it. If anything, i'd feel more comfortable knowing that there's an additional security buffer to warn me if i ever started dropping too often. I think as an adult you should be aware of the risks, but you should also be open to the many experiences (positive and negative) that come through using E. As long as you're safe, and make sure you get good dope and are surrounded by a knowledgable group of people who will look after you if things go bad then the risks you face are not much greater then if you went on to the bar for a crazy party (yes - i know ppl will disagree here, but this is just my opinion )

Ultimately it's the music that is important as you said...but if you can do a few things to enhance the experiencee, then go for it -- and have a rolling good time too


Very well said, excellent post. I totally agree. You've articulated something I've always thought.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Oct-12-2004 09:01:

/me thinks the thread starter was mad buggered whilst writing the first post...


Posted by Jayx1 on Oct-12-2004 13:06:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
I saw a whole bunch of cracked out older Asian people passed out, with their heads in one of the horn speakers on the floor. Jesus christ that shit blew my mind, why do people do that to themselves?


And everywhere else post circa 1996-1997


Posted by jdjd on Oct-12-2004 15:24:

At places like Guv they have something called PARTIES. If everyone there was listening intently to the music and critiquing every transition from track to track, how boring would that be? People like to get all self-righteous and say: "Oh I don't do drugs, I go there for the music!". It's not only about the music!

Personally I listen to EDM 24/7 when I'm not out. That's when I will listen closely and learn new tracks, shit like that. When you hit up a party, there's other stuff to do other than trying to write up a setlist.

Most of us have been to the few EDM clubs in T.O. tons of times and if you're on this forum, then most likely you've heard alot of those tunes before. So it's not like some big 'experience' that you're missing out on if you're fucked up. If I were to go to one of the huge parties in Europe like Trance Energy or something that's when I would stay sober.


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