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mixing with out the EQ's

i have seen alot of djs mix with out touching any of the EQ's..and just mix with the channels...does anyone do this??if done right, with the right track this seems to sound pretty clean. i will somtimes mix by bring in a track with the bass/low cut and then replace the old bass with the new bass, but this seems to give the mix a very
abrupt sound to it... i know there is no "right way" to do this...but any suggestions will help

thanks.

In my experience the better quality the mixer, the less you have to use the EQs, plus if your a good DJ and know about keys and how each of your tracks progress, then you can mix and never had the 2 records clash any sounds or sound out of place.

I'd still prefer a mixer with EQs, even if you are an amazing DJ, its still nice to use EQs now and then for various things.

HAHA. I am learning right now how to mix without EQ's. Its not fun I'll tell ya. But im looking for a new mixer.

so long as you never have both tracks on full volume its possible. but eq's are very very very useful for blending. instead of swapping, try slowly turning one up while slowly turning the other down.

you can't mix every track with no eq's, beat phasing sounds messy and using the bass eq eliminates this.

I can't imagine mixing without EQ's, they help so much to smooth things out. In fact if you gave me the choice between having no EQ's or having no faders (x or channel) I'd keep the EQ's.

EQ mixing (100% EQ that is) can be great.
Try to (if your mixer can kill bands completely) to put the crossfader in the middle and the upfaders all the way up, with the EQs down to 0 on the incoming track, then raise them slowly, and fade the outgoing track out the same way.

when i first stated djing, i used my mates Numark disco mixer which had A) no eqs and B) no gain control/input level meter. Mixing on that taught me a hell of a lot about fader control!

It is possible to mix without eqs, you just have topick your tunes well and never have 2 tracks at full volume at the same time

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Originally posted by djdk when i first stated djing, i used my mates Numark disco mixer which had A) no eqs and B) no gain control/input level meter. Mixing on that taught me a hell of a lot about fader control! It is possible to mix without eqs, you just have topick your tunes well and never have 2 tracks at full volume at the same time

I hear that, for the longest time I used this old Kam mixer that had nothing on it, the main feature of it was the power button, but I'm glad as I learned alot from that POS.

I think maybe it's a good thing that I'm still an MP3 DJ, using PCDJ Red (No EQ controls with Red)... I've gotten used to only having a crossfader. And to answer your question, yes, if done right your mix can sound great

I had an American DJ scratch mixer without EQs for awhile...it was interesting

Seriously though it made me mix a lot better, but mixing without EQs is just plain stupid, especially on a big system (two basslines and kickdrums un-EQ'd on top of each other might very well blow your subs or speakers).

I don't know why everyone is saying they can't have both channels at full volume together. It's really not that hard to find two songs that match together well enough to have the volumes both at full volume on for a minute or so.

That my one complaint about the pcv275. The eq cuts arent deep enough. They are only -16, and i think -12 in the mids. This makes it impossible to mix with eqs only.

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Originally posted by DannyO I hear that, for the longest time I used this old Kam mixer that had nothing on it, the main feature of it was the power button, but I'm glad as I learned alot from that POS.

aye, i think a lot of DJs nowadays take EQs for granted. You can still do some awesome mixes without EQs!

I would upload some of mine, but theyre all on casette

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Originally posted by djdk aye, i think a lot of DJs nowadays take EQs for granted. You can still do some awesome mixes without EQs! I would upload some of mine, but theyre all on casette

yea, EQs are a luxury, I got a couple on tape from years back, plus I do still have a couple on pc somewhere that I did on that mixer and 2 crappy belt drive Soundlab decks that were duff.

The sound isn't to bad from them, just beats drifting often as they could never hold pitch, hmm, maybe I should upload them.

my mixer (numark dm 1285) doesnt have eqs for each channel, it has a five band eq for the output. mixing with it is a pain in the ass but it can be done. it really teaches you to find songs that go together really well. i can not wait to get a new mixer. i'm trying to hold out and buy a nice one instead of getting a cheap mixer just for the eqs.

If your track selection is solid and provided you are mixing in key then you really don't need the EQs, except to cut out bass phasing. Some top of the line rotary mixers don't employ EQs but rather have a high pass filter which is all you need to eliminate phasing. If you aren't mixing in key and have tracks with clashing elements then you really need to use the EQs to pull a nice sounding transition. So EQs are not necessary but they are a definate plus. I know I wouldn't want to mix on a mixer with no EQs. Try not to swap the bass frequencies but rather slowly bring up the bass on the track while lowering the other and again do this slowly don't just switch them out.

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Originally posted by Zild If your track selection is solid and provided you are mixing in key then you really don't need the EQs, except to cut out bass phasing. Some top of the line rotary mixers don't employ EQs but rather have a low pass filter which is all you need to eliminate phasing. If you aren't mixing in key and have tracks with clashing elements then you really need to use the EQs to pull a nice sounding transition. So EQs are not necessary but they are a definate plus. I know I wouldn't want to mix on a mixer with no EQs. Try not to swap the bass frequencies but rather slowly bring up the bass on the track while lowering the other and again do this slowly don't just switch them out.

It's a high pass filter. Low pass eliminates everything above a certain frequency leaving you with just the bass. High pass does the opposite, killing the bass.

oops thats what i get for smoking too much

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Originally posted by failsafe I don't know why everyone is saying they can't have both channels at full volume together. It's really not that hard to find two songs that match together well enough to have the volumes both at full volume on for a minute or so.

i agree. i mix at full volume quite often, using the right EQ settings of course. anything is possible if you understand the music.

i see alot of big dj's just mix with the channels and no eg's, i guess this only works if the records go well together and are in the same key

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Originally posted by failsafe I don't know why everyone is saying they can't have both channels at full volume together. It's really not that hard to find two songs that match together well enough to have the volumes both at full volume on for a minute or so.

its doesn't matter what tracks you play, if you have both tracks at full volume without eq (assuming you have gain matched), your master gain will be up and down like a yoyo every damn mix. that is messy, and totally wouldn't work on a club system.

unless you use bits of songs that haven't got kicks, but you will be hard pressed to be able to put a set together like that.

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Originally posted by MR STROKE i see alot of big dj's just mix with the channels and no eg's, i guess this only works if the records go well together and are in the same key

thats because they are lazy.

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Originally posted by MR STROKE i see alot of big dj's just mix with the channels and no eg's, i guess this only works if the records go well together and are in the same key

that's 'cause they're lazy and/or the system has a ton of signal processing and whatnot.

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