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Posted by Tranc3 on Oct-12-2004 21:38:

Tracks with strange timings

Like Bart Van Wissen - One Reason, Rui Da Silva - Touch Me

Yahel's track You Feel also does this for a small section.

Any other tracks like this?

Posted by torontotrance on Oct-12-2004 21:42:

The Alley Qats - Talk to me Goose is like 3 records in one.

Posted by MinuS on Oct-14-2004 15:21:

theres a few holden tracks with odd timings:

a break in the clouds - the beats offsets a measure for a little then fits back in.

the sky was pink (remix) - is all about wierd beat timings/structures, great tune!

Come to me - not as much as the ones mentioned but one part in the beginning the kick cuts out for a few beats and sounds sick when comes back.

Posted by Sand Leaper on Oct-14-2004 15:54:

The main melody on Red Light District - Did You Hear Me? (Phase II Mix) runs for a strange number of bars. Sound really odd.

Posted by emre on Oct-14-2004 17:01:

Ingo Boss - Little eternity

Posted by NiteMer on Oct-14-2004 17:07:

Jerry Bonham - Seventh Seal has some weird timing on some kicks during the main breakdown.

Posted by djthunderbird on Oct-14-2004 19:04:

deep dish - flashdance.. all the timings are so wierd its really a bitch to mix out of

Posted by Tranc3 on Oct-15-2004 03:25:

Sweet, anyone know any more? I don't know if those aforementioned tracks are psy or not, but I was kinda expecting to see a psy expert post in here since psy is all about the mindfuck aspect

Posted by qwikk on Oct-15-2004 04:12:

a lot of the psy I listen to is normally just 4/4, probably because it's Full-On and not some crazy shit like Shplongle.

although Violet Vision is kinda like psy-breaks, I don't think any of their stuff has messed up timings.

Posted by armandzadza on Oct-15-2004 04:21:

quote:
Originally posted by qwikk
a lot of the psy I listen to is normally just 4/4, probably because it's Full-On and not some crazy shit like Shplongle.

although Violet Vision is kinda like psy-breaks, I don't think any of their stuff has messed up timings.

Psy-breaks? I must hear this!

Posted by Tranc3 on Oct-15-2004 04:25:

Posted by Tranc3 on Oct-15-2004 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by armandzadza
Psy-breaks? I must hear this!

Damn, psy-breaks was MY innovative idea!

Posted by armandzadza on Oct-15-2004 04:40:

Re: Tracks with strange timings

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
Like Bart Van Wissen - One Reason, Rui Da Silva - Touch Me

Yahel's track You Feel also does this for a small section.

Any other tracks like this?

I remember hearing a track with a 3/4 beat on a recent John Digweed Kiss 100 show. If I dig it up (no pun intended), I'll let you know

Posted by Tranc3 on Oct-15-2004 04:56:

Yeah Digweed seems to have an ear for these kinds of things, I should listen to his shows. I mean after all, One Reason is signed to Bedrock.

Posted by Radagast on Oct-15-2004 05:03:

I don't know if there is such thing as psy breaks or dnb, but if there is Eat Static makes both. Although they're known most for their GOA/Psy work, they've made most anything but Techno. Maybe Techno too, I haven't heard all of their tracks. Acid/Classic Trance, Ambient, Breaks, DnB...

They've made funky breaks, traditional DnB, and both of those with those odd spacey sounds Psy is known for. Some example tracks here:

DnB:
Shpongle - And The Day Turned To Fright (Eat Static Mix)
Hide - Doubt (Eat Static Remix)
Eat Static - Mandrake
Eat Static - Dionysiac
Eat Static - Bodystealers
Eat Static - In The Nude
Eat Static - Salon Kitty [Starts off with originally produced latin lounge sound then goes to DnB, then back to the latin lounge...odd)

Breaks:
Eat Static - Are Man In Nirvana
Eat Static - Follow That Camel
Eat Static - Cyber Funk
Eat Static - Almost Human
Eat Static - Comatose
Eat Static - Elixir [breaks/4/4]
Eat Static - Kryll [breaks-4/4 again; they seem to be fond of this]
Eat Static - Critical Mass [Switches from 4/4 to breaks then back again]
Green Nuns Of The Revolution - Ring Of Fire (Eat Static Remix) [Again, goes from breakbeat to 4/4 beat]
Banco De Gaia - Lai Lah (Eat Static Kitchen Sink Remix) [Once more with the switching between breakbeat and 4/4 beat]

And Eat Static - The First Revelation is an odd one, starts off like an ambient track for the first four minutes then a 4/4 beat and some psy is introduced. At least in terms of variety they're up there with Orbital, BT, Oliver Lieb, etc...BUY ALL OF THEIR ALBUMS NOW!

Posted by qwikk on Oct-15-2004 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
I don't know if there is such thing as psy breaks

just check out Violet Vision.

I'm surprised I haven't heard anything from Eat Static although I've heard a lot of their name, gonna have to get some of their stuff most definately.

Posted by BLuEOcEaN420 on Oct-16-2004 14:54:

*Shpongle - Dorset Perception (Lo-Steps Balearic Breaks Re-Edit)
*Lo-Step - Burma
*Lamb - Gabriel (SI Begg S.I. Futures Remix)
*Moguai - U Know Y (A Si Begg Si Futures Remix)
*Banco de Gaia - Drunk as a Monk (Rabbit In The Moon Mix)
*Layo And Bushwacka - Its Up To You (Shining Through) (Lee Cabrera Remix)
*BT - Remember (Sasha Remix)
*Grayarea - Yewminyst
*Paris & Healey - Blue
*Fused - Terror (Cevin Fisher's Terror Dome Club Mix)
*Der Dritte Raum - Hale Bopp (Jackdaw Mix)
*Max Graham - Tell You (Original Mix)
*Starecase - Other Side Of The Line (General Midi Mix)
*The Crystal Method - You Know It's Hard (Koma & Bones Remix)
*The Crystal Method - Born Too Slow (Deepsky's Green Absinthe Dub)
*BT - Kaistar (Deepsky Remix)
*Subliminal Cuts - Le Voie Le Soleil (Fade Mix)

Fade, Si Begg, Rabbit In The Moon, Lo Step, Banco de Gaia, Starecase and deepsky, all their names come to mind when i think of song w/ unexpected timing... and of course psy & big beats artists...

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-16-2004 16:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
I don't know if there is such thing as psy breaks or dnb, but if there is Eat Static makes both. Although they're known most for their GOA/Psy work, they've made most anything but Techno. Maybe Techno too, I haven't heard all of their tracks. Acid/Classic Trance, Ambient, Breaks, DnB...

They've made funky breaks, traditional DnB, and both of those with those odd spacey sounds Psy is known for. Some example tracks here:

DnB:
Shpongle - And The Day Turned To Fright (Eat Static Mix)
Hide - Doubt (Eat Static Remix)
Eat Static - Mandrake
Eat Static - Dionysiac
Eat Static - Bodystealers
Eat Static - In The Nude
Eat Static - Salon Kitty [Starts off with originally produced latin lounge sound then goes to DnB, then back to the latin lounge...odd)

Breaks:
Eat Static - Are Man In Nirvana
Eat Static - Follow That Camel
Eat Static - Cyber Funk
Eat Static - Almost Human
Eat Static - Comatose
Eat Static - Elixir [breaks/4/4]
Eat Static - Kryll [breaks-4/4 again; they seem to be fond of this]
Eat Static - Critical Mass [Switches from 4/4 to breaks then back again]
Green Nuns Of The Revolution - Ring Of Fire (Eat Static Remix) [Again, goes from breakbeat to 4/4 beat]
Banco De Gaia - Lai Lah (Eat Static Kitchen Sink Remix) [Once more with the switching between breakbeat and 4/4 beat]

And Eat Static - The First Revelation is an odd one, starts off like an ambient track for the first four minutes then a 4/4 beat and some psy is introduced. At least in terms of variety they're up there with Orbital, BT, Oliver Lieb, etc...BUY ALL OF THEIR ALBUMS NOW!

So do they actually have strange timings or did you just list all the stuff that switches from 4/4 to a breakbeat (which is 4/4 as well)?

Posted by fitom tiel on Oct-16-2004 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
The Alley Qats - Talk to me Goose is like 3 records in one.

that wouldn't be
Pinkbox Special - Talk to Me Goose, would it? because, that one too

Posted by josh rising on Oct-16-2004 16:37:

Lost Witness - Red Sun Rising (Dusk Till Dawn Mix)

Posted by Ste on Oct-16-2004 16:53:

liquid blue - mindscape

its a fucking bastard, you can hardly mix it its timings are that fucked

Posted by Radagast on Oct-16-2004 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
So do they actually have strange timings or did you just list all the stuff that switches from 4/4 to a breakbeat (which is 4/4 as well)?

I was expanding on the earlier discussion in the thread about psy-breaks which you must have missed.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-16-2004 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
I was expanding on the earlier discussion in the thread about psy-breaks which you must have missed.

And what do they have to do with this topic, exactly?

Posted by Radagast on Oct-16-2004 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
And what do they have to do with this topic, exactly?

Probably nothing. What's your point. The threadstarter himself was involved in the psy-breaks conversation. Are you being stupid on purpose? I thought you had more sense than that.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-16-2004 21:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
Probably nothing. What's your point. The threadstarter himself was involved in the psy-breaks conversation. Are you being stupid on purpose? I thought you had more sense than that.

One man's stupidity is another man's wisdom.

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