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Posted by LiquidX on Oct-14-2004 19:40:

Worm Popper NRA endorses President Bush

There you go Guys!!! Just WOOOOONDEEEER why Mr Bush didnt re-inforce the gun control..



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NRA endorses President Bush[QUOTE]


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The National Rifle Association endorsed President Bush for re-election on Wednesday, promising millions of dollars for ads, phone banks and other get-out-the-vote efforts.

"The Supreme Court is going to be crucial to the future of the Second Amendment, and President Bush will appoint justices that respect the Bill of Rights," NRA chief executive Wayne LaPierre told The Associated Press in a phone interview before announcing the endorsement at a news conference in Duluth, Minnesota.

Bush also supports legislation to protect the firearms industry from lawsuits and opposes centralizing files on gun owners, LaPierre said, calling the difference between Bush and Democrat John Kerry on guns "day and night."

LaPierre also planned news conferences in Flint, Michigan; Youngstown, Ohio, and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

The gun-rights group's political action committee has already spent roughly $1 million on TV and other advertising opposing Kerry.

The NRA plans to spend about $20 million in all, focused on 10 to 15 targeted states, with efforts including radio, television and newspaper ads, phone banks, door-to-door voter contacts, up to 10 million pieces of direct mail and election messages in magazines that go to the group's 4 million members.

The pro-Bush spending will be done by the NRA's PAC, which is financed with limited donations from the NRA's members.

The campaign law that went into effect this election cycle cut off a major source of past NRA election spending by broadly barring the use of corporate money in any amount and unlimited donations from any source in presidential and congressional races.

Kerry's campaign has derided the NRA's leaders as tools of the Republican Party and said they are out of touch with their membership.

Kerry says he has been a hunter from childhood and a gun owner who supports the Second Amendment. But he has voted in favor of gun control and has supported extending a now-expired ban on assault-style weapons and requiring background checks at gun shows.

He also opposes granting gun makers immunity from civil lawsuits.

Kerry has been endorsed by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. The gun-control group said Wednesday that it is joining with the Million Mom March to air a TV ad criticizing Bush's failure to press for renewal of the assault-weapons ban.

The ad will air in Philadelphia, Cleveland and Miami over the next week, with an initial buy of $100,000, spokesman Peter Hamm said.

White House Communications Director Dan Bartlett welcomed the endorsement and said, "The NRA recognizes that President Bush understands that law-abiding citizens have a right to own firearms as well as to put the focus of our anti-crime policies on those who commit crimes with guns."

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.







Posted by Shakka on Oct-14-2004 20:58:

Please. As if there was ever any question. The GOP has had the NRA in their back pocket for years. It's not like Michael Moore and the likes really embrace them either. Are you seriously surprised? The assault weapons ban has nothing to do with this. Wipe that frown off your face!


Posted by JM on Oct-14-2004 22:01:

Re: NRA endorses President Bush

yep yep yep.

Republicans and NRA go hand in hand. Why one would be suprised of this is a bit odd. Just cos Kerry 'claims' to be a hunter doesn't mean much...

>JM<


Posted by fastmp3 on Oct-14-2004 22:41:

from my dead cold hands


Posted by smokeape on Oct-15-2004 02:07:

I found the last debate profoundly funny where Kerry claimed to be a hunter. The only thing he ever hunted was his way out of a hole he drove himself into with his left liberal views.


[[[smoke]]]


Posted by imokruok on Oct-15-2004 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by smokeape
I found the last debate profoundly funny where Kerry claimed to be a hunter. The only thing he ever hunted was his way out of a hole he drove himself into with his left liberal views.


[[[smoke]]]


You always knew John Kerry was a bogus hunter. But when he told a group of hunters that he loves to hunt deer with a double-barreled shotgun while crawling around on his stomach, he removed any doubt.

(yes, you can hunt deer with a shotgun, but rustling around on your stomach is the easiest way for another hunter to shoot your head off.)


Posted by speedracer_mec on Oct-15-2004 02:54:

Re: NRA endorses President Bush

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
There you go Guys!!! Just WOOOOONDEEEER why Mr Bush didnt re-inforce the gun control..











LOL wow good job learning this.



GOP+NRA for eons


Posted by ResonantDrag on Oct-15-2004 05:00:

Re: Re: NRA endorses President Bush

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
LOL wow good job learning this.



GOP+NRA for eons


of course, you gotta get the moron vote somehow. do you think that bush will be able to secure an election on his financial and foreign policies alone? find a group of easily distracted rednecks (ie. the NRA and the christian coalition) rub their backs on a couple of meaningless policies and voila! you get the southern states and the midwest. has anyone posted an article on pat robertson supporting bush yet?


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-15-2004 06:05:

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quote:
Originally posted by ResonantDrag
of course, you gotta get the moron vote somehow. do you think that bush will be able to secure an election on his financial and foreign policies alone? find a group of easily distracted rednecks (ie. the NRA and the christian coalition) rub their backs on a couple of meaningless policies and voila! you get the southern states and the midwest.

you don't mean this, do you?
please tell me your kidding.


Posted by speedracer_mec on Oct-15-2004 06:12:

Re: Re: Re: NRA endorses President Bush

quote:
Originally posted by ResonantDrag
of course, you gotta get the moron vote somehow. do you think that bush will be able to secure an election on his financial and foreign policies alone? find a group of easily distracted rednecks (ie. the NRA and the christian coalition) rub their backs on a couple of meaningless policies and voila! you get the southern states and the midwest. has anyone posted an article on pat robertson supporting bush yet?


1)or go suck on Jesse Jackson's cock and go to church with him.
Use the race card
VOTE BUSH-go back to slavery (basically what jackson has said)

2)go to AARP Meeting
Pat every old bag in there and handfeed them a tablet before they go to bed

3)Use Edwards Healing Hand of power and touch the crippled and waaaaaahllaaaaa ..they are up and walking again (stem cell debate)
{he said in a recent rally..that under his adminstration...REEVES would of been able to walk}--pathetic eh?



/end of sarcastic rant on appealing to different groups


Posted by ResonantDrag on Oct-15-2004 06:38:

Re: Re: Re: Re: NRA endorses President Bush

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec

{he said in a recent rally..that under his adminstration...REEVES would of been able to walk}--pathetic eh?



woah, i can't argue... that's fucked up. and fuck him for saying that. i would like to see a source though, video would really bring the statement across.

regarding the other groups, we're not talking about voter groups spread all over the country, (and you're just mad that bush didn't come through with his promises to the senior citizens) we're talking about entire states covered with trailer parks who's populaces' weekends are spent shooting beer cans with 12 guages. Are these people really votng for america's best future? just because the nra says that bush will let them keep their guns?

/end of rant based on unfounded generalizations of the citizens of the midwest. (i have seen a shit-ton of southerners behave in this flock path, though)


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-15-2004 07:03:

Re: Re: Re: Re: NRA endorses President Bush

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
1)or go suck on Jesse Jackson's cock and go to church with him.
Use the race card
VOTE BUSH-go back to slavery (basically what jackson has said)

2)go to AARP Meeting
Pat every old bag in there and handfeed them a tablet before they go to bed

3)Use Edwards Healing Hand of power and touch the crippled and waaaaaahllaaaaa ..they are up and walking again (stem cell debate)
{he said in a recent rally..that under his adminstration...REEVES would of been able to walk}--pathetic eh?



/end of sarcastic rant on appealing to different groups

right on


Posted by Shakka on Oct-15-2004 12:41:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NRA endorses President Bush

quote:
Originally posted by ResonantDrag
woah, i can't argue... that's fucked up. and fuck him for saying that. i would like to see a source though, video would really bring the statement across.


It was pretty pathetic when Edwards said it. I'm paraphrasing, but it was very close to, "If John Kerry were president, Christopher Reeve would've gotten up and walked out of his chair."

Just terrible, tasteless, and completely bogus. He was using his best trial lawyer tactics.


Posted by speedracer_mec on Oct-15-2004 18:42:

Edwards: 'When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk. Get up out of that wheelchair and walk again'...

John Kerry the Shaman


Posted by GeneraLeePissed on Oct-15-2004 22:16:

The republican puppet speedracer should learn to stay on the subject of the forum...much like his Idol he pivots the subject to suit his interests. I wanted to hear about the uneducated; being swayed for a group that lobbies for a party, that does NOT hold them in there best interest. I'm tired of the red-neck republican.


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-16-2004 00:41:

well, elitist, ignorant crap like this
quote:
of course, you gotta get the moron vote somehow. do you think that bush will be able to secure an election on his financial and foreign policies alone? find a group of easily distracted rednecks (ie. the NRA and the christian coalition) rub their backs on a couple of meaningless policies and voila! you get the southern states and the midwest.

and
quote:
I wanted to hear about the uneducated; being swayed for a group that lobbies for a party, that does NOT hold them in there best interest. I'm tired of the red-neck republican.

is baseless drivel
this thread is not meant for debate if you think about it.


Posted by JM on Oct-16-2004 01:04:

i'm gonna try getting one of these soon.



>JM<


Posted by speedracer_mec on Oct-16-2004 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by GeneraLeePissed
The republican puppet speedracer should learn to stay on the subject of the forum...much like his Idol he pivots the subject to suit his interests. I wanted to hear about the uneducated; being swayed for a group that lobbies for a party, that does NOT hold them in there best interest. I'm tired of the red-neck republican.


LOL? First off kid; Im not even a redneck...dont know why you would assume that. If you meant BUSH, then be clear next time.

2nd: This thread is useless due to the fact that anyone into politics knows NRA+GOP have always been together..no one is denying that.

3rd: Something we can argue about is the fact that Kerry is a classic opportunist
@the debateassault weapons ban discussion)
they were talking about the assault weapons ban, and Kerry said the ban should have been renewed, because just last year (while the ban was in effect) he was hunting with some police chief on his belly who had performed a drug raid, and found an AK47 laying on the guys bed, and said now those guns are legal.......I just said WTF you proved your point wrong, if the law was in effect and the bad guy already had the gun it must not be a very freaking good law.....

4th: As far as the Elmer Fudd aka John Kerry
I know hunters, and Mr. Kerry, you sir are no hunter


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-16-2004 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
3rd: Something we can argue about is the fact that Kerry is a classic opportunist
@the debateassault weapons ban discussion)
they were talking about the assault weapons ban, and Kerry said the ban should have been renewed, because just last year (while the ban was in effect) he was hunting with some police chief on his belly who had performed a drug raid, and found an AK47 laying on the guys bed, and said now those guns are legal.......I just said WTF you proved your point wrong, if the law was in effect and the bad guy already had the gun it must not be a very freaking good law.....

i said the exact same thing during the debate. a friend of mine watching it with me didn't even realize what Kerry had just said. i had to explain it to her. she's pro-Kerry, go figure

actually, she's anti-Bush.


Posted by speedracer_mec on Oct-16-2004 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
Everyone agres that this was a lame suggestion. No controversy here.






the almighty edwards....will bring Reeves back to life


Posted by LiquidX on Oct-16-2004 08:27:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec


the almighty edwards....will bring Reeves back to life


He said people " LIKE" reeve .. not , Reeve Will **


Posted by ResonantDrag on Oct-16-2004 18:43:

damn, got me all worked up over nothing, granted edwards comments are purely speculative, don't run around making up stuff just to create a point.

rinse, wash and spin, spin, spin


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-16-2004 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
He said people " LIKE" reeve .. not , Reeve Will **

no shit sherlock. he was already dead. Edwards then continued to exploit that fact.


Posted by GODLESSCOMMIE on Oct-16-2004 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
no shit sherlock. he was already dead. Edwards then continued to exploit that fact.


So? I think we should allow Edwards to exploit one corpse(albeit a famous one). I mean Bush exploits the dead all the time, or are you suffering from a pre-9/11 mind set?


Posted by speedracer_mec on Oct-17-2004 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
He said people " LIKE" reeve .. not , Reeve Will **


*sigh* Go back previous pages..I already stated that.
I even dug up the real quote which is even on the picture...

mY comment right there under that pic was a "snide" remark



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