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Posted by T-Soma on Oct-15-2004 01:55:

Smiley DJ New DJ (need help)

Hey all, im new here in the forums and i am a new dj also im 13 years old. I am looking at buying cd turntables not just normal turntables because it is much easier and cheaper for me providing that i already have a large techno/trance cd collection and if i need to play some dance or hip-hop at a private party or something it will be much easier to get it on cd than vinyl. So i need to ask what cd turntables/mixer would be best for about $3000 au.


Posted by nrjizer on Oct-15-2004 02:29:

Two: Pioneer CDJ-1000 MK2



And a Vestax PCV-275



That setup will treat you right.

Get the Pioneer's from that store, they are Pioneer Authorized, which means you can get a $150 rebate on both your CDJs (if you send for the rebate before December 31). Shop around for the best price on the Vestax, you should be able to get it for $360ish.


Posted by Ken_Allen on Oct-15-2004 03:25:

Damn...you 13 and you got that money?

I'll be 14 in 2 weeks


Posted by djkoolaide on Oct-15-2004 04:13:

I'm almost 16 and I don't even have that money... nor a job But good luck with the CDJ's


Posted by starlabs on Oct-15-2004 05:58:

Nice... when I was your age, all I could afford were blank tapes.

I would've said use the search function, but since it's currently down I'll give ya some slack

Anyway, 2 CDJ 1000s are a safe bet - you will be very happy with those. I have one and it just plain rocks. (Saving up to get another). I also have 1 Vestax PCV 275... it's solid and works great.

You might also want to consider 2x Denon S5000s. They have more features (as well as a rotating platter). I know it's kind of a pain but ask your parents to take you to a local shop where you can get some HANDS-ON experience with CDJs and Denons. Reading about everyone's opinions and the specs is fine, but it doesn't replace the actual touch-and-feel experience. So go out there and play with them before spending those big $$$$$.

And please, support the artists and *buy* your digital music when you can!

BTW... I believe the rebate is US-only, so the poster is out of luck on that unfortunately. But do double check on that...


Posted by sleepydragon on Oct-15-2004 09:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Ken_Allen
Damn...you 13 and you got that money?



his mommy and daddy r probably buying them for him


Posted by T-Soma on Oct-15-2004 10:51:

quote:
Originally posted by sleepydragon
his mommy and daddy r probably buying them for him


Uhg... i hate those rich kids who always get their parents to buy everything for them! so im tellin u that aint me, anway nearly failing year 8 to work my ass off has been worth it!


Posted by dj jasonF on Oct-16-2004 00:21:

Smiley DJ

hes rich... so what? wouldnt you like your parents to buy you cdjs when you were 13???? i dont have a job and im 16 AND I GET FUCKED EVERY DAY TO BUY THE EQ I WANT AND THE MUSIC I WANT... I DONT EVEN HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ANYMORE CUZ I DONT GO OUT AND KEEP MY MONEY TO BUY THI S SHIT.

my advice is that you cant learn how to mix if you dont have turntables. so... if i were you and i had all this money i would buy 2 technics sl-1210mk2 USED a stanton 401 mixer NEW or USED and a GOOD double cd player used or 2 cdjs 100 used... just grab a newspaper and you ll find used eq.

also when in the record store you can meet ppl that can tell you a few things about mixing or even help you get a job in the future
hope this helps


Posted by Ken_Allen on Oct-16-2004 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by dj jasonF my advice is that you cant learn how to mix if you dont have turntables. so...


Well...if you can mix fine on gemini belt drive turntables...I think you can pretty much mix awesome on some technics with no effort

It's getting too easy to mix now...everyone into djing and companies are making it easier to beatmatch & use any kind of medium you want, from tapes, to dvd's

I wouldn't be suprised if a baby could dj in a few years


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Oct-17-2004 06:17:

for one dont go with CDJ have respect for the people that did this before you use vinyl but i guess if your really wanting them go with the New Technics CDJ and a A&H Xone 92... that will get you started and keep you going though if you dont have the money for something nice save some more, you will regret it if you dont...

as for Vinyl
Technic any kind will do..
and DJM600/ A&H Xone 92
and some Ortofon Night Club S's

nothing better then getting fresh wax in the post mate


Posted by djshan on Oct-17-2004 06:27:

i never read ur post, but dont go for the pcv275. i had nightmares when i had that mixer. i suggest xone 92.


Posted by Cheetah86 on Oct-17-2004 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by djshan
i never read ur post, but dont go for the pcv275. i had nightmares when i had that mixer. i suggest xone 92.



Yeah, why not, it's only $1000+ difference


Posted by Ghostface on Oct-17-2004 07:58:

Re: New DJ (need help)

quote:
Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy
Hey all, im new here in the forums and i am a new dj also im 13 years old. I am looking at buying cd turntables not just normal turntables because it is much easier and cheaper for me providing that i already have a large techno/trance cd collection and if i need to play some dance or hip-hop at a private party or something it will be much easier to get it on cd than vinyl. So i need to ask what cd turntables/mixer would be best for about $3000 au.


Have a hunt round, you should be able to get two CDJ 800's and a DJM300 for $3000. Try Pro light and sounds.


Posted by T-Soma on Oct-18-2004 06:02:

Thanks alot for the help people. One more thing though, I live in melbourne, australia and i was wondering what other good DJ equipment stores their are in or around the city besids central station records.


Posted by montie on Oct-18-2004 06:52:

quote:
Originally posted by dj jasonF

my advice is that you cant learn how to mix if you dont have turntables. so... if i were you and i had all this money i would buy 2 technics sl-1210mk2 USED a stanton 401 mixer NEW or USED and a GOOD double cd player used or 2 cdjs 100 used... just grab a newspaper and you ll find used eq.



You can learn to mix using almost anything. the CDJs 800/1000 work almost exactly like turntables except for the fact that they don't spin. if you really want to emulate turntables go with the Technic CDJs or the Denon S5000's

infact i prefer the CDJs to turntables because there is so much more that you can do with them.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Oct-18-2004 12:36:

Don't go for the Technics CDJ. It's probably the biggest disapointment of the year so far. I can't believe they brought that out. The effects are incredibly weak and the whole feel is just cheap. Don't like the pitch on it either.

Pioneer CDJ 1000 are the best in my opinion so if you are looking for quality decks then they are the answer. If you don't want all the effects you can save money and go for the CDJ 800s. Also good stuff but a little bit cheaper.

As for the post saying ignore the Vestax 275, I have to disagree. Good mixer (even found in some clubs) for it's price range. Sure with a A&H Xone 92 you will get a quality mixer but it's simply way over priced and just does not live up to the price tag. If you do want to go with Allen and Heath then a Xone 62 or something like that. But for the level we are talking the Vestax will do fine.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by D Dubya on Oct-18-2004 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Don't go for the Technics CDJ. It's probably the biggest disapointment of the year so far. I can't believe they brought that out. The effects are incredibly weak and the whole feel is just cheap. Don't like the pitch on it either.


I think this will be the only time in my entire life when I can say that I disagree with Nem. I own a pair of Technics CDJs and they are far from a disappointment. The pitch control is a bit loose to the touch, but very accurate and the feel is far from cheap in my opinion. A solid table and my favorite after trying everything else out before deciding on a purchase.

As someone said earlier, go to a store and check everything out firsthand to see what you like. I truly believe it is all about personal preference.


Posted by zoomzoom on Oct-19-2004 04:47:

I highly recommend the CDJ-1000s and the PCV-275.

The Vestax 275 is about the best value mixer for its price range. I picked mine up for $360 US on closeout.


Posted by DannyO on Oct-19-2004 05:19:

My advise would be either the Denon X1500 or the Ecler Nuo5, there the new bad boys on the block for there price, and then the CDJ1000 as well, maybe the DNS5000s instead, they do have more features just not to keen on the control, then after try and get a used Tech12 so you can learn what spinning wax is all about, and also pick up tracks that you can't get on CD.

But I highly recommend you go and try it all out, you might hate the CDJs and the A&H mixers, so go out and try as much as you can, its your money and your the one who will be using it anyway.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-19-2004 05:39:

hehe, you guys have missed one BIG point here.

He said his budget is $3000 AUSTRALIAN!!!!!

Lets look at some numbers.

CDJ 1000s = around 1800-2000 EACH
Xone 92 = MEGA MEGA BUCKS, a 62 is 2800, a 32 is 2000!
Vestax PCV-275 = 900
Technics and Numark CDX = 2000
Numark Axis 8 and Pioneer CDJ 800 = around 1300 each
Pioneer CDJ 100 = 675 each
Pioneer DJM 300S = 800.

Maybe if you can scratch some extra moola together, CDJ 800s and maybe a Numark DXM-01 mixer (440-450), not a bad set up for around 3000.

Or go used and you might be able to find some better stuff for around the same, but personally for CDJs, I'd want to go new.

Look around though, I can't help you with shops in Melbourne, but an Australian net store if you're interested:
www.storedj.com.au
A little expensive in some stuff, and I don't know how you would return for warranty..................


Posted by D Dubya on Oct-19-2004 05:46:

is australian about 2x american money?


Posted by Trance Nutter on Oct-19-2004 05:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirk W.
is australian about 2x american money?


One Aus dollar currently is around 70 US cents

But then on top of that, all DJ stuff is way expensive, so its a double wammy when comparing to O/S prices.


Posted by T-Soma on Oct-19-2004 06:07:

Yea i can still get some more money and maybe find a deal somewhere... With those technics digital TTs i heard their is some big problem with audio quality. Well im definitly gonna go round to all the stores n see if i could take the decks for a lil test run first coz i aint gonna buy it without havin a feel for it myself.


Posted by nrjizer on Oct-19-2004 06:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
hehe, you guys have missed one BIG point here.

He said his budget is $3000 AUSTRALIAN!!!!!




According to www.xe.com

$3000 au = $2,171 U.S. dollars.

Thats why I reccomend 2 CDJ-1000s and a Vestax 275. He can scrape by with that if he shops around, and if his parents are buying it for him they will probably round it out for a few extra hundred if they have to.

Just tell them that you're buying absolute quality equipment that will last you a good long time (which is the truth).


Posted by nrjizer on Oct-19-2004 06:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Realm
for one dont go with CDJ have respect for the people that did this before you use vinyl


Please explain to me how using CDs somehow disrespects the DJs before us who only had vinyl. Please. I want to know. Seriously, I do, tell me.


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