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Posted by Qunavid on Oct-20-2004 04:18:

Is there ANY good Hardcore

I haven't heard any hardcore worth its weight in ass since Ron D. Core's Decibles of Destruction. Any one know of any good 'core?

And please don't make me piss on you by saying "Yeah, Omar Santana's new CD dude!

Thanks.

Oh, anyone have the debut PHI cd Phinalizer? I heard that it's fucking tasty.

Posted by D-res on Oct-20-2004 05:19:

quote:
Is there ANY good Hardcore

no...

Posted by DJ Cinos on Oct-20-2004 05:45:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
no...

Second that. It's all a matter of opinion but personally I grow tired of every HC track in one listen.

Posted by Qunavid on Oct-20-2004 06:37:

Eh.

there have been some, and you will argue this, quality hardcore tracks, namely the older Ron Desmond mixtapes. Just because something is fast does not mean that it blows donky ass.

Yet electronic music is general sucks, not innately, just because of the coporate movement, the 'alicedj' syndrome. Advil commercials have shitty house in the backround.

Damn formulaic bullshit, build up, insert cheesy vocal, then down, little up again, next track. Argh. Kids on copious amonts of e are easy to please, I guess.

Posted by DJ Cinos on Oct-20-2004 06:39:

Re: Eh.

quote:
Originally posted by Qunavid
Yet electronic music is general sucks, not innately, just because of the coporate movement, the 'alicedj' syndrome. Advil commercials have shitty house in the backround.

Damn formulaic bullshit, build up, insert cheesy vocal, then down, little up again, next track. Argh. Kids on copious amonts of e are easy to please, I guess.

Good note, but it's a little off-topic.

Posted by Qunavid on Oct-20-2004 06:51:

Bleh

Yeah, I have trouble with walking a line. Well (throws flowers on hardcore's casket) *hmph* it's been real...

Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Oct-20-2004 07:23:

Re: Bleh

quote:
Originally posted by Qunavid
Yeah, I have trouble with walking a line. Well (throws flowers on hardcore's casket) *hmph* it's been real...

what sorta hardcore you after? happy hadcore, or gabba-esque ?

Posted by Qunavid on Oct-20-2004 19:54:

Fnord!

I'm after darker stuff. HHC is alright if you're in the cheesy mood; Chapter three is okay. I'm looking for good gabber, basically, which is kind of an oxymoron these days. I was going to pick up a copy of Industrial Fucking Strength vol. 3, but thought better of it and got the (then) new-ish Shiva Space comp., Lightbeams.

Any info?

Posted by daeus on Oct-20-2004 19:58:

I like Mark E.G hardcore sets, common the new synths (they have finally found 4 sum reason) are givin them allot more of their own tunes (for once) and its sounding allot better, my mates call it newskool.

Go to a rave and see how HARDCORE they are, jeasus the speed of that dancing, so much energy, its got to be all good !

Posted by josh rising on Oct-20-2004 20:49:

Some of my favorite HHC/hardcore tracks...check these out...

Breeze & Styles - Chemical Love
Kelly Llorenna - Heart Of Gold (Hixxy Remix)
Plus System - Na Na Na
Hixxy - I'm Ready
CLSM - John Peel (Not Enough)
Euphony f/ Danielle - Turn Around
Breeze & Styles - Heartbeatz (Scott Brown Remix)

Posted by Derivative on Oct-20-2004 21:20:

you arent looking in the right places if you havent found any good hardcore. theres lots of good hardcore about and it is very very varied. alot of good hardcore has been released in the past 6 months. stuff like:

uplift and stargazer - statik [raw elementz uk]

spinback and storm - your love [underground recordings] (one of my personal favourite tunes in recent times)

go back a few years and you'll find gems like:

scott brown - eternal soul [evolution hardcore] (another personal fav)

social outcast feat. carol sharland - freedom [bonkerz]

soundscape - someday soon [FBI recordings]

Q-Tex - let the bass go [evolution hardcore]

if you are partial to happy hardcore then:

eclipse - 24/7 [next generation] is a goodun.

scott brown - boomstick [bonkerz] (very dark and nasty gabba tune)

also, just like theres a ton of generic, boring trance out there - theres a ton of generic, boring hardcore. hardcore has split into many different kinds of genre now so if you want

1) hard, nasty dirty and fast hardcore - you need to check out gabba, speedcore and hardcore. good labels for this are raw elementz uk, nu energy, bonkerz etc.

2) fast, euphoric, sophisticated - you need to check out freeform hardcore. good labels are evolution hardcore, FBI recordings, etc

3) happy, cheesy, funny hardcore - you guessed it. this one seems to have come to represent all hardcore in the eyes of many people. theres still some good happy hardcore out there from labels like next gen. but this one is done to death like euro trance.

Posted by daeus on Oct-20-2004 21:31:

Yea both classic selections from above two posts...

Check out HAPPYHARDCORE.COM for unlimited live sets !

Posted by Ian on Oct-20-2004 21:33:

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Originally posted by tieann
Kelly Llorenna - Heart Of Gold (Hixxy Remix)

So Wrong. Oh So Wrong

That song was made by Force & Styles with 'Jenna' as vocalist originally and like many other HHC classics which got lots of play from the major dj's, it ended up getting raped by some talentless whore who wanted to make money off it, and at the same time cheapen the memories of us who heard it first time around.

Posted by nwopper on Oct-20-2004 22:33:

DJ Promo, Nosferatu, Korsakoff, Neophyte, Stunned Guys, MC Drokz (but that's really fast, like more terror), Buzz Fuzz, Outblast, Endymion....

Posted by Derivative on Oct-20-2004 22:56:

endymion makes dirty filthy hardcore. more like gabba or speedcore than hardcore. some gabba out there is mentally brutally evil.

Posted by Jordan Stevens on Oct-21-2004 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
no...

what he said

Posted by hardstyle on Oct-21-2004 03:45:

well

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
endymion makes dirty filthy hardcore. more like gabba or speedcore than hardcore. some gabba out there is mentally brutally evil.

Endymion makes darkcore not speedcore

Posted by Qunavid on Oct-22-2004 02:05:

Pfft

Thanks for the leads, Derivative. I'll check it out a bit.

Yeah, I have heard some sweet hardcore, but it was when I was living in Washington and a few people there actually knew what electronic music was. Here on Ganymede, nobody knows shit, and that's about the skinny of it. They think that those "NOW this is what I call cow shit" CD's represent electronica. Or they own ATB albums.

Posted by Dark Apostle on Dec-29-2004 19:47:

For the darker stuff, check out labels such as Epileptik, The Third Movement, Enzyme Records, D.N.A., Planet Mu Records...

Posted by jp on Dec-29-2004 19:55:

I've been a part of the hardcore scene since '92 and in these years (until '99) these were my favorites. Quality stuff

Hardcore '94-'97

01. Leviathan - We'll Tear Your Soul apart
02. Chosen Few - The Name Of The DJ
03. Digital Boy - Ok, Allright
04. Inferno Bros - Slaves To The Rave
05. Masters Of Ceremony - Hardcore To Da Bone
06. Party Animals - Used and abused
07. Marshall Masters - Stereo Murder
08. Wayward - Hardcore Hijacked Me
09. Nasty Django - Hardcore Motherfucka
10. JDA & Delta 9 - Voel Je Die Bass
11. Leviathan - Yes..No..
12. Buzz Fuzz - Frequencies
13. Pilldriver - Pitchhiker
14. Tellurian - Bloody Fucking Hardcore
15. Bodylotion - Always Hardcore
16. Dr.Macabre - Poltergeist
17. Juggernaut - Don't Fuck With A Ruffneck
18. Neophyte - Execute
19. Turbulance - Six Million Ways To Die
20. Darkraver - Intelligent Hardcore

Oldschool '91-'94

01. Rexanthony - For You Marlene
02. Jones & Stephenson - The First Rebirth
03. Human Resource - Dominator
04. Masako solo - Pessa pessa
05. Speedy J - Pull Over
06. Souskin - Dream Your Dream
07. Thunderball - Bonzai Channel One
08. Hocus Pocus - Here's Johnny
09. Ramirez - Terapia
10. DJ Hooligan - B.O.T.T.R.O.P.

Happy Hardcore '95-'97

01. Technohead - I Wanna Be A Hippy
02. The Prophet - Big Boys Don't Cry
03. Bass D & King Matthew - Hold me now
04. Paul Elstak - Life Is Like Dance
05. 3 Steps Ahead - Drop It
06. DJ Weirdo & DJ Sim - Go Get Busy
07. Party Animals - Have you ever been mellow
08. Interactive - Forever Young
09. DJ Sim - Cartoons In Progress
10. Charly Lownoise & Mental Theo - Wonderful days

Newstyle Top 10 '98-'00

01. Razzle Dazzle Trax - Rattlebrain
02. Neophyte - No Worries
03. Marshall Masters - I Like It loud
04. Stunned Guys - Army Of Hardcore
05. The Horrorist - Flesh Is The Fever
06. Masochist - Killing Scum
07. Rotterdam Terror Corps - The Horror
08. Promo - Frozen (Mad-Donna)
09. Tschabos - Gib Mir Die Bass
10. Rotterdam Terror Corps - Gonna Blow Your Min

New hardcore is mostly crap and i don't care about it anyway