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Posted by DJ Sunburn on Oct-10-2001 01:50:

God Bless Us

God Bless The World,
May Justice be served to any who harm innocent people.

God Loves Everybody, Ossame Bin Laden just has a lot of explaining to do to Him in a few days.

-Sunburn

God Bless Trance...


Posted by Daffer on Oct-10-2001 04:05:

Amen for that, let's hope everything turns out the good way


Posted by Renegade on Oct-10-2001 07:23:

But what if Allah is pleased with what Osama Bin Laden has done?

You could argue that god loved everyone who died on Sept 11, so he isn't pleased with what happenned, but how do you know that? If we're talking about god, unless he comes down and tells us all what's going on in that omnipresent brain of his, it's your word against Osama's I'm afraid..... so appealing to God gives Osama Bin Laden undue justification for what he did. If you believe that a god exists, then you have to concede that it could be Allah and not Jehova sitting up there..... and if it is Allah then maybe he is pleased with what happened.

Anyways, just stirring up some controversy.


Posted by [A|ienFactory] on Oct-10-2001 09:16:

Bin Ladin & Co. and their actions have nothing to do with Islam, they just use it and give it a bad reputation. They are just like any other suicide sect.


Posted by Gekhous on Oct-10-2001 10:11:

Exclamation Re: God Bless Us

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Sunburn
God Bless The World,
May Justice be served to any who harm innocent people.

God Loves Everybody, Ossame Bin Laden just has a lot of explaining to do to Him in a few days.

-Sunburn

God Bless Trance...


man, i was affraid u were gonna say god bless america, cuz if u would have, i would have fried ur ass!!!!!

may justice be server to any who harm innocent ppl, good, cuz one of Americas rockets hit a UN depot, killing 4 ppl... innocent ppl, no, wait, ppl that were HELPING ppl, not ppl that were KILLING ppl, so, Sunburn, when do u think America gets punished for killing those ppl, and others (not wanting to bring up any names, like Vietnam, Iraq (so yeah, Hussein is a badass mofo, but that doesnt mean his citizens r))??

and bout Osama, it has STILL not been proven he did it, and America HAS proven to bomb innocent ppl, so whos got the explaining to do??


Posted by cweb on Oct-10-2001 17:10:

im pretty sure, that this will be the next closed threat...
oh and this 4 uno (the symbol of freedom)-guys, think "colateral damage"...


Posted by biznology on Oct-10-2001 20:20:

you can argue that america has killed innocents, but every nation is guilty of this as well. i wont say that america has never abused power tho...i will bring up the arguement that their position at the end of WWII and the treaties signed thereafter gave us the job of peacekeeper in many respects, along with many other countries and unions. and if he is saying god bless the world, its just as good as god bless america(cuz, yes america is part of and not THE world). you can say the world is worse off because of america, but in many ways its better - the fact you can express your own opinion here could very well have everything to do with the usa...

plus as many canadians, mexicans and the like will argue AMERICA is not the USA...late/


Posted by Evmac on Oct-10-2001 21:05:

Re: Re: God Bless Us

quote:
Originally posted by Gekhous


man, i was affraid u were gonna say god bless america, cuz if u would have, i would have fried ur ass!!!!!

may justice be server to any who harm innocent ppl, good, cuz one of Americas rockets hit a UN depot, killing 4 ppl... innocent ppl, no, wait, ppl that were HELPING ppl, not ppl that were KILLING ppl, so, Sunburn, when do u think America gets punished for killing those ppl, and others (not wanting to bring up any names, like Vietnam, Iraq (so yeah, Hussein is a badass mofo, but that doesnt mean his citizens r))??

and bout Osama, it has STILL not been proven he did it, and America HAS proven to bomb innocent ppl, so whos got the explaining to do??


Ok lets say there is a remote possibility that he isn't responsible...
What about the acts of terrorism against US embassies or the USS Cole i believe that was hit with a bomb on another boat. Bin Laden has been linked to all of these attacks, so he will be punished to them. If those acts of terrorism were close to your home you might have a different opinion. Also, Vietnam and Iraq were wars not terrorism acts brought on by the USA, which all had warnings before action was taken. The USA supposedly has proof of Bin Laden's connection, and all countries that are helping were given thay info thats why they are helping the USA!


Posted by DJ Sunburn on Oct-10-2001 21:16:

quote:
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Originally posted by Gekhous


man, i was affraid u were gonna say god bless america, cuz if u would have, i would have fried ur ass!!!!!

may justice be server to any who harm innocent ppl, good, cuz one of Americas rockets hit a UN depot, killing 4 ppl... innocent ppl, no, wait, ppl that were HELPING ppl, not ppl that were KILLING ppl, so, Sunburn, when do u think America gets punished for killing those ppl, and others (not wanting to bring up any names, like Vietnam, Iraq (so yeah, Hussein is a badass mofo, but that doesnt mean his citizens r))??

and bout Osama, it has STILL not been proven he did it, and America HAS proven to bomb innocent ppl, so whos got the explaining to do??
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Well, if America killed some innocent people, I'm more than certain that it wasn't INTENTIONAL. The WTC Bombs obviously were intentional. Plus we've given Afghanistan time to hand over Bin Laden and they didn't. We aren't killing civilians over there so far. God help us if we do. We are helping out some civilians due to the horrible humanitarian problems over there.



If someone killed your entire family and you knew who it was...would you wanna sit there and say, "Please don't do that again"?


Posted by fastmp3 on Oct-10-2001 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Sunburn


Well, if America killed some innocent people, I'm more than certain that it wasn't INTENTIONAL. The WTC Bombs obviously were intentional. Plus we've given Afghanistan time to hand over Bin Laden and they didn't. We aren't killing civilians over there so far. God help us if we do. We are helping out some civilians due to the horrible humanitarian problems over there.



If someone killed your entire family and you knew who it was...would you wanna sit there and say, "Please don't do that again"?



INTENTIONAL MY ASS !!!!! SHUT UP PLEASE , AMERICANS DISCOVERED THAT THERE ARE HUMAN BEINGS LIVING OUTSIDE OF AMERICA AFTER THE 11 OF SEPTEMBER ...


Posted by biznology on Oct-10-2001 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3



INTENTIONAL MY ASS !!!!! SHUT UP PLEASE , AMERICANS DISCOVERED THAT THERE ARE HUMAN BEINGS LIVING OUTSIDE OF AMERICA AFTER THE 11 OF SEPTEMBER ...



whatever you say man...some people just dont want to believe that the government and military here in the US arent necessarily indicative of what the people as a whole beileve. as for that statement, i think it speaks for itself in ignorance. if americans think they are the only people on the planet, then everyone elsewhere in the world must HATE the USA. i know some people fall into this category, but i know for a fact that sweeping generalizations cant be made. its called THINKING remember?! late/


Posted by jzmhed1 on Oct-10-2001 23:47:

yeah. im with you biznology..what's with all the fucking anti-american sentiment on these boards anyway?? fuckin unbelievable and heartbreaking, especially at a time like this...


Posted by j_spot on Oct-11-2001 00:15:

4 innocents vs 6000+ innocents? Hmm...so far I think one action out weighs the other.

Oh, and that Bin Laden/al Qaida video he that the Taliban released to Al-Jazeer did as much as admitting to the attacks. It HAS been proven that al Qaida IS responsible for the attacks..bla bla bla...Its war now. All Americans, all Afghanis, are under 'attack' and lookie a little down the road, then all G7 nations, all Muslims,and .. HOLY SHIT!
just in case you HAVENT realised it yet, this is some serious shit that is as much as world war 3 in the making...Give it another month, either Al Queda will dissolve and die off (Not at all likely, in fact, im just sayin it because its an alternative) OR US, UK, Canada(yea, our meagre army is goin to work)France, China, Russia...its all goin DOWN


and im scared.


Posted by KaNoS on Oct-11-2001 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Sunburn
quote:

If someone killed your entire family and you knew who it was...would you wanna sit there and say, "Please don't do that again"?


What do you think this muslims are doing? USA has been bombing for a long while Irak, after supporting afghanistan against the russians they left them in ruin.

By getting into someones else bussiness so much, the anti-americanism has been formed.

The help a lot, yes, but they get were they dont belonge many times.


Posted by fastmp3 on Oct-11-2001 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by KaNoS


What do you think this muslims are doing? USA has been bombing for a long while Irak, after supporting afghanistan against the russians they left them in ruin.

By getting into someones else bussiness so much, the anti-americanism has been formed.

The help a lot, yes, but they get were they dont belonge many times.



wurd !


Posted by DJ Sunburn on Oct-11-2001 01:15:

KarateKid I agree

On a different note of things (other than hating on the U.S.) Sorta just making the subject turn at a different angle.

This is A scary thought to disturb you: Nostredamus predicted the fall of two twin brothers (sound familiar?) a short while after the second mellineum. Most of his predictions have come true and he also predicted this would be the start of a 30 year war that would end the world.
Anybody else ever heard about these predictions?

What do you think?



He predicted a comet would hit the earth in 1999 and the movie, "Deep Impact" came out. So did "Armageddon" but that wasn't a comet.

Anyways, lol see ya.
-Sunburn


Posted by j_spot on Oct-11-2001 01:21:

so what Kanos and FastDjMP3 want is for no country to become involved in the affairs of another(or is it just keep the US out of everybodys buisness?)...hmm, either way THAT DOESNT WORK! k..HYPOTHETICALLY, that would mean the end of all exports and imports, and suddenly the world economy would come to a stand still. Foreign investments to Canada and US are a HUGE deal, but say that *for the sake of argument* that the world economy doesnt stall and implode on itself, Sure, most G7 countries and maybe a few others could get by on their own, but quality of life for all would plummet. For all other countries that DEPEND on imports for food (and there are more that depend on it than that provide it) it would be a crushing blow that would only help spread worldwide famine. Lucky for me I live in a rich country, Id hate to think of what it would be like for a Kenyan, or a nairobian. I mean, yeah Canada and US can produce a hella lot of oil for itself, but not enuf. The gulf is next to a necessity. When those oil reserves are threatened, youd better damn well hope that somebody jumps into action, and thankfully the US has the power to do it. Otherwise, all of you who consume oil products(and dont try to tell me you dont) would be very hard pressed.

Foreign intervention is needed to protect WORLDWIDE interests. Just so happens that the only country with the balls and the power to do it is the USA.


Posted by j_spot on Oct-11-2001 01:24:

Re: I agree

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Sunburn

This is A scary thought to disturb you: Nostredamus predicted the fall of two twin brothers (sound familiar?) a short while after the second mellineum. Most of his predictions have come true and he also predicted this would be the start of a 30 year war that would end the world.
Anybody else ever heard about these predictions?

W



Yeah.. A lot of what he said has happened..only Nostradamus didnt predict the fall of two twin brothers... that is a hoax started somewhere on the net...

ill find what has been twisted to say that about the bros


Posted by DJ Sunburn on Oct-11-2001 01:28:

Shame / Disagreement Twin Brothers

Ok, so I did hear it from word of mouth but whatever. Alot of this stuff is pretty Biblically predicted too. I'll have to look up some stuff later for it. Anyways...later.
-Sunburn


Posted by stamper on Oct-11-2001 01:46:

I personally believe America kills innocent people each and every day without knowing it. While Americans and other developing countries bask in their own wealth and riches, there are thousands of people dying each day from starvation and disease. America has more than enough wealth to be able to stop starvation all over the world, yet all it does is give loans with unreasonable interest rates to the countries just putting them more and more in debt. I think it's sad that the developed world can't just get off its arse to help those that are lucky to live on a day to day basis, who are lucky to have one decent meal a week, who suffer from disease and malnutrition. All while we sit on arse trying to decide where to spend our weeks paycheck, which will be more than people in developing countries get in an entire year.

I don't think we should be saying God Bless Us, I think we should be saying God Help Us.


Posted by j_spot on Oct-11-2001 04:33:

k, I know Canada for one is helping by giving about 1% of GDP to foreign aid. And what does Canada get in return? diddly squat. Australia is givin same amount, with the biggest giver being the scandanavian countries(damn them and their being the best countries in the world!) Now say you were to UP the amount of aid given, that means less for social programs and domestic spending. Now I dont know about you, but I pay taxes to help me and my country mates first off. How about we solve our problems of homelessness first, THEN take care of 'third world' countries. I wouldnt feel so bad then. People freeze to death on sidewalks here, why? cuz they cant even find a god damn shelter..they can get food, water, but cant find a fuckin place to stay so that they dont freeze to death? sorry, but ill take care of thise before I even start to spend more on foreign countries.

And why do you blame the US for other people starving? The US spends alot, yeah. It spends alot of other peoples money. The US gov't is not at all concerned with their defecit or debt. They just spend spend spend. I cant quote figures, cuz I dont know, but they are soo much in debt you wouldnt believe it. On the same respect, nobody cares about that.
@ the same time, Canada is drastically reducing their defecit. Once our defecit is gone, we can spend X% domestically and Y% on foreign aid.(with X+Y=100%) and then ill be completly happy.

But I do Agree with you on the god bless us bit, I dont particularly want blessings right now. I want this to be over so I dont have to worry about where the next retaliatory hit is going to be, and how it is going to affect me.


Posted by TranceFusion on Oct-11-2001 05:15:

Re: Re: God Bless Us

quote:
Originally posted by Gekhous


man, i was affraid u were gonna say god bless america, cuz if u would have, i would have fried ur ass!!!!!

I dont get why you would say something like that......I say God Bless America


Posted by Miss Proximus on Oct-11-2001 05:40:

o please, let the world come to an end so all this "i'm the best"..."no, ur a bitch" whining can be history


Posted by juzfugen on Oct-11-2001 07:07:

[QUOTE. America has more than enough wealth to be able to stop starvation all over the world, yet all it does is give loans with unreasonable interest rates to the countries just putting them more and more in debt. [/B][/QUOTE]



just to let you know the US has loaned out more money to more in need then anyone else and the majority of our international loans are INTREST FREE and we can look back in recent history (lets say 50 years)and over 75% of our loans have NOT been payed back so get your figures straight. and for the US deficit one of the main reasons for it is all of our defaulted loans to us its not the only reason but it had alot to do with it and no one talks pubicly about this. i have my mba in business and economics and i deal with this stuff everyday and we studied it in school alot and another fact for you guys the us has loaned out more money then 95% of the worlds countries GDP thats sad, so in other words i think we should have some say in what goes on in the world especially to those countries we keep alive financially. and so you think we should rid the world of starvation why should we? it seems the world is getting mad when the us "puts its nose in others business" maybe going back to isolatoinism isnt that bad of an idea


Posted by cweb on Oct-11-2001 08:58:

about taliban not beeing content to deliver osama to usa. the taliban agrred to deliver osama to a un-protected justice temple (dunno the word hehe) inside the country. the us of course disagreed, one thing I can undestand, because its somewhat ridicoulus to just go after one man.
the us dont need bombing they need killer troups

And something else. Why the heck is the US Government against an international military tribunal? Europe is very upset about this. Perhaps because this tribunal could bring some asshole-warlords-americans (btw these people exists in all countries so dont get me wrong) to justice, and thats what the us dont want.


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