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When you guys make your demo tapes when handing out to promoters, do you guys obtain permission to use those songs that are featured on your demo?

when you buy your vinyls or your mp3's, or cds... you are already buying the rights to use the music...

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Originally posted by trancinchink when you buy your vinyls or your mp3's, or cds... you are already buying the rights to use the music...

In general, it is true. However, one time I looked at the fine print and it stated that the record cannot be used for public performance. It is on almost every record I have.

The whole legal limbo has been irking me for some time as well.

It's not perfectly legal to give out mixtapes of other tunes, but if you're not profiting from it they're not really that bothered by it.

Depends on the country. In the US I do not think it is strictly legal but it is what you do (and everyone else). In Canada I know it is expressly legal for DJs to promote themselves this way.

The fine print about public performance is really about playing it in front of a crowd. The club/bar/whatever vanue you play out at must have an additional license to play recorded music to the public. This license they have allows the DJ to come in and play his/her records even though they say "not for public performance". (in the US at least)

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Originally posted by auujay The fine print about public performance is really about playing it in front of a crowd. The club/bar/whatever vanue you play out at must have an additional license to play recorded music to the public. This license they have allows the DJ to come in and play his/her records even though they say "not for public performance". (in the US at least)

I'm almost certain that this is true everywhere.

do you guys print out graphics for your cd covers and list the artist/title of the tracks on the back like store bought cd's?

I am wondering If the chance of getting in trouble is less if I do not list the artist/title.

My focus is to make mix cd's and sell em for 5$.

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Originally posted by SUNWmsf My focus is to make mix cd's and sell em for 5$.

Now that is definitly illegal

When you buy your vinyls, you buy rights for the music for you and your close neighboorhood. That means, you don't have the rights to play it in a club. Therefor, the club has to pay right to (eg) the RIAA for those 1000 people. Only then, the DJ is allowed to play records.

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Originally posted by SUNWmsf do you guys print out graphics for your cd covers and list the artist/title of the tracks on the back like store bought cd's? I am wondering If the chance of getting in trouble is less if I do not list the artist/title. My focus is to make mix cd's and sell em for 5$.

I would not do it as it is definitly illegal and if the record companies start going after DJ's mix CDs I have to believe they will go after people selling them rather than giving them away.

Does anyone know the proper protocol to obtain licenses to resell re-sampled audio on your mix cd?

I heard of something called a 'mechanical license' where you have to talk to the record label and get approval of each of the records that you put in your mix cd. Something like, if the resampled audio track you are using in your mixed cd is over 45 seconds, then you need a license. This was posted on a website someplace.

I believe in *all* legality that if your use a record labels song in your mix cd, no matter how long it is, the record label is legally due royalties.(that's obvious.. .but not the real point of this post)

But of course, if you are only making under 10,000$ for your bulk of duplicated cd's (about 2000 cds) , then the labels will probably not trip on you. So i've heard...

I think that there is also a different license that I heard of that you need to get in order to have a sound company master and duplicate your cd for sale.

Any of you have insight/thoughts on any of this?

reiterating the obvious...., that if you use someone elses audio cration to make a profit via your mix cd, that is illegal....
what do you think you can get away with is the question?


ALso, do any of you guys know any peeps that make mix cd's and sell them? whether it be hip-hop/dance mixes/or whatever....

also, some buddies of mine put tags like ,"for promotional use only" ,or "this cd is primarily used to promote the DJ", on their cd's.

They are under the impression that if some 'record label police' were to see that they have no license, that this tag that they put on their cd may save them in court.

I don't know about it... im looking for opinions and words of experience in the issue.

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Originally posted by SUNWmsf also, some buddies of mine put tags like ,"for promotional use only" ,or "this cd is primarily used to promote the DJ", on their cd's. They are under the impression that if some 'record label police' were to see that they have no license, that this tag that they put on their cd may save them in court. I don't know about it... im looking for opinions and words of experience in the issue.

SUNWmsf, I was reading something today and this hit it right on the buzzer.

Taken from http://www.altrap.com/articles/arti...ol2mixtape.html
"There is a myth in the DJ community that putting "For Promotional Use Only" on your CD will protect you from litigation. This is FALSE. Again, any reproduction and distribution of copyrighted material without permission is illegal. To make your CD available to the public you will need two types of licenses, a Master Recording License and a Mechanical License. "

In that same article, it goes on how to clear songs. Here's a good question though. How much would it probably cost to clear a song or how would one go about doing it within trance music?

very informative link MOS... Thanks.

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