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Posted by Haunted on Oct-23-2004 09:58:

the future

I was just watching I,Robot.. and it really made me think. We are very dependant on technology, and AI Isn't that far off in the future. This movie really makes you think... could this be the future?

The movie is a bit matrix-esque though. the whole AI rebelling thing. this theme is actually quite popular. i forgot what other movie did it too

They laughed at Jules Verne


Posted by Quantized on Oct-23-2004 10:32:

OMG teh robots are gonna take over the world!!!!2


btw, is the movie any good?


Posted by SportTrance on Oct-23-2004 10:44:

it is interesting....

robots are definitely the future.....

Funny part is, its not even really the future. We HAVE the technology to do it, just 15 years ago we didnt. The only thing holding it back right now is money and society itself.

A car could EASILY be programmed to take us to work, safely. But no one is going to trust that just yet. 15 years ago that was a dream, now its a reality, and that scares the public. Which I can understand.

You also cant forget why society is threatened by computers. In a sense they actually DO take over the world. They replace jobs. They've replaced millions already. And they not only do your work for free, they do it 10 times better and never complain.

Once society accepts and trusts the idea, we'll start seeing robotics utilized a lot more. Until then, society is comfortable with the old fashioned concept of keyboard and mouse.


Posted by itsTrueSonic on Oct-23-2004 12:13:

scientists are already testing the computerized cars (psst.. don't tell anyone that, because we are not supposed to know that) with the simple GPS systems installed in every car. just tell the GPS where you are going, and it will lead you to the way. problem .. it will always go at a constant speed. the car will never exceed the speed limit. so no hot rodding on a 35 mph zone. sorry.


they already have AI in labor factories. why do you think they laid off so many labor workers offshore?

but they say about 2010, AI will be controlling the cash registers in the supermarkets. so no more dumb cashiers.


Posted by Mike_B on Oct-23-2004 12:20:

quote:

but they say about 2010, AI will be controlling the cash registers in the supermarkets. so no more dumb cashiers.



they already do to an extent. At Loblaws here. they have some cashes with cashiers but also like 10 cashes that you scan stuff and put them in the bag. and if you take them out. the computer tells you to out them back in, then i tells you to scan next idem then put it in the bag. they are in charge
anyways its nice, cause it goes alot faster cause no one wants to use them.


Posted by itsTrueSonic on Oct-23-2004 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_B
they already do to an extent. At Loblaws here. they have some cashes with cashiers but also like 10 cashes that you scan stuff and put them in the bag. and if you take them out. the computer tells you to out them back in, then i tells you to scan next idem then put it in the bag. they are in charge
anyways its nice, cause it goes alot faster cause no one wants to use them.


yeah .. just a few .. they say it will be a lot better scanners and smarter.

i do like it now, although it is a little slow scanning, and it doesn't take beat up money. i always have beat up money.


Posted by Mike_B on Oct-23-2004 14:12:

its called interac . more machines


Posted by |cEbLu3 on Oct-23-2004 14:46:

actually the book, "I, Robot" was written way before the Matrix was made. I f you really want to delve into depper exploration of these themes i would recomend reading all of Isaac Asimov's robot/AI books, i think its called "The Foundation Series"


Posted by Haunted on Oct-23-2004 18:40:

I,Robot is a book? I must read.


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Oct-23-2004 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_B
they already do to an extent. At Loblaws here. they have some cashes with cashiers but also like 10 cashes that you scan stuff and put them in the bag. and if you take them out. the computer tells you to out them back in, then i tells you to scan next idem then put it in the bag. they are in charge
anyways its nice, cause it goes alot faster cause no one wants to use them.


yeah they have those in some home depots too


Posted by Omegasox on Oct-23-2004 21:21:

quote:
Originally posted by itsTrueSonic
scientists are already testing the computerized cars (psst.. don't tell anyone that, because we are not supposed to know that)


I doubt it's supposed to be a big secret since it's been going on for at least 5 years now and they have a public testing strip in Arizona for it.


Posted by Gunyouken on Oct-23-2004 21:58:

Imagine that people will have autopilot cars, even maybe flying ones.

I bet that alot of people will prob find a way to make it manual, just like with the speed limiting chips in cars today, people are always finding ways to not be controlled.

I personally would not want a autopilot car, unless it has both options (If you are pissed it would be nice that your car drives you home.... Hell I've had situations where my car prob did drive me home, I sure as hell wasn't driving and I was the only one in the car and I got home... somehow. )


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-23-2004 22:05:

I was actually thinking about this when I got out of a movie last night...how good it is to be in complete control of your own life and perception.

I was driving at about midnight on the freeway coming home. As soon as I got onto the highway, I hit the gas - I accelerated up to about 120mph and passed pretty much everyone who was out there (not too many people out at 12:30). I rolled all the windows down and turned up the music all the way. Then I turned my headlights off. It was pure fucking life and I was taking a risk seeing as how there were absolutely no lights on the side of the freeway - only dense, Florida forest. A conscious machine would never allow this - it just doesn't make sense in accordance to both traffic laws OR survival chances. - then again, neither does even leaving the house these days

I like my control, no matter how foolhardy it may be. I would never willingly give up that freedom to a machine.


Posted by Misty Kitty on Oct-23-2004 22:12:

i'm worried that the robots will take over as we shall all die due to lake of fresh water but the robots keep a select few to breed for slaves.

(disclaimer: i do belive if thus be the case they will keep me )


Posted by TwoPlow on Oct-23-2004 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Haunted
I,Robot is a book? I must read.


Argh.


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-23-2004 22:46:

The difference between creating an "AI" system to perform a specific physical function e.g. navigating a car or scanning your shit at a store and creating one in which the AI exhibits genuine creativity, desires, or emotions is so wide it doesn't even make sense to talk about them in the same discussion.


Posted by Kakoroto on Oct-24-2004 02:47:

Eventually with the way technology is developing we are going to find more and more people staying indoors than ever before. If you look at the youth of today, you can see this forming. Everything that I would ever need is available to me indoors, whether it be playing video games, internet, watching TV, phones. Soon you will be able to order items from the store through your refridgerator(like in 7th day), virtual reality will let people go places and visit other people virtually without actually going anywhere, and everything will be controlled electronically. I can already sit inside playing MMORPG's all day long and not think twice about it. Eventually we would need to go outside to get some fresh air, but for the most part everything you could ever want would be available to you.


Posted by Dmatrox on Oct-24-2004 03:05:

the whole idea of robots taking over the world is kinda ludacris. The invention of a large scale EMP blast would happen before robots would take over the world. Therefore, robots would not take over the world.

people in 60s thought that today we'd be flying around in spaceship-cars, - but we arent.

its all just science fiction.


quote:
Imagine that people will have autopilot cars, even maybe flying ones


no fucking way. No fucking way there would be autopilot for cars in the city. Too many variables and variations and too many things can go wrong for it even be considered as a safe way of transport. Remember, computers are machines and designed by software programmed by humans. The risk of crashes of autopilots cars in the city is extremely high. Autopilot planes are different because the traffic in the sky is low and you dont slow and stop and accerlate so many times in the sky, at least not stop.

Again, flying cars, unlikely that it would take over take the necessity for ground transportation. Flying vehicles is a possibility for the future and seems probable, but i think flying vehicles on a scale of mass transportation from one end of the city to another is more likely than individual cars flying around, due to cost of maintaining, traffic, etc.


Posted by Gunyouken on Oct-24-2004 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
no fucking way. No fucking way there would be autopilot for cars in the city. Too many variables and variations and too many things can go wrong for it even be considered as a safe way of transport. Remember, computers are machines and designed by software programmed by humans. The risk of crashes of autopilots cars in the city is extremely high. Autopilot planes are different because the traffic in the sky is low and you dont slow and stop and accerlate so many times in the sky, at least not stop.

Again, flying cars, unlikely that it would take over take the necessity for ground transportation. Flying vehicles is a possibility for the future and seems probable, but i think flying vehicles on a scale of mass transportation from one end of the city to another is more likely than individual cars flying around, due to cost of maintaining, traffic, etc.


It is not so inconcievable for cars will be on autopilot, I read about this thing where engineers are busy developing a system where the road itself will guide cars automatically to destinations the passanger has chosen, the road will know where every car is and there will be no more traffic jams and shit...
And like I said before, there are alot of clever people out there that don't want to be controlled and I'm sure that alot of them will find away around autopilot and drive manually, and since there won't be any traffic police since everything is automated, driving manually is the way to go



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