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Posted by StereoPrincess on Oct-23-2004 15:56:

Vending machines in schools?

Did you guys have vending machines in elementary school?

Answer this poll.

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Posted by StereoPrincess on Oct-23-2004 22:46:

this is only because i am curious how much a new law to disallow vending machine from selling chips and pop to young kids in school is going to affect things.

it's my idea that not much since most schools don't even have vending machines so i don't think it should be made into such a big deal.

and what the fuck happened to parents making a lunch for their kids and since when do kids actually have any money on them when they are in grade 2 or something?


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-23-2004 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
and what the fuck happened to parents making a lunch for their kids and since when do kids actually have any money on them when they are in grade 2 or something?


Agreed, the law is bullshit but not very relevant. If they want to look out for the health of kids, they should force them to walk to school instead of letting them ride the bus.


Posted by idoru on Oct-23-2004 22:55:

Yeah, we did. There were only the more healthy fruit drinks in them, but even then, kids rarely used them.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Oct-23-2004 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Agreed, the law is bullshit but not very relevant. If they want to look out for the health of kids, they should force them to walk to school instead of letting them ride the bus.


Ok, that could be an idea.

i lived like a 2 hour walk from school.

and since they are kids they can't walk alone.

the bus is a safety issue.

food is not.


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-23-2004 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Ok, that could be an idea.

i lived like a 2 hour walk from school.

and since they are kids they can't walk alone.

the bus is a safety issue.

food is not.


Four hours of walking a day would do kids a lot of good, and if you can pay someone to drive the bus (not to mention to service it, for gas, and of course the cost of the bus itself), then you can pay someone to walk the bus route and the kids can just follow them.

I love the reasoning behind this law:

Well, kids get up in the morning, sit on the bus and ride to school, and sit on their asses all day in school. But if they get fat, it must be those chips and that soda!


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-23-2004 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Some people live out in the country, my friend has to drive 40 minutes to get to class, and its busy roads and across bridges.

At our highschool their is a section of kids that live across the tideflats, which is a huge industrial/shipping area on the delta of a river, and it would not be a pleasent walk.


Perhaps it would be fair to give transportation to a small number of students who are more than ten miles from the school. Cutting down on soda and chips however is not a logical solution to the problem. A bunch of frail, skinny children aren't healthier than a bunch of fat ones.


Posted by DJ_Bananie on Oct-23-2004 23:25:

I don't understand the big issue here...

I am currently in grade 12, and our school is implementing a "Healthy Choices" program, which means that instead of selling pizza, chips, and pop, they sell salads and juices. I mean, you'd think my the time someone is in high-school they have enough judgement to know what is healthy for them of not.


Posted by Matt on Oct-24-2004 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Bananie
I don't understand the big issue here...

I am currently in grade 12, and our school is implementing a "Healthy Choices" program, which means that instead of selling pizza, chips, and pop, they sell salads and juices. I mean, you'd think my the time someone is in high-school they have enough judgement to know what is healthy for them of not.



but they don't.

Stand around the cafeteria and watch what people buy.

I see this kid who eats greasy cookies and root beer at 9am.


Posted by DjSimonB on Oct-24-2004 01:32:

No but we had a tuck-shop that sold unhealthy things.


Posted by Fast Turtle on Oct-24-2004 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Perhaps it would be fair to give transportation to a small number of students who are more than ten miles from the school. Cutting down on soda and chips however is not a logical solution to the problem. A bunch of frail, skinny children aren't healthier than a bunch of fat ones.


...or you could just make sports mandatory, like a lot of schools do.


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-24-2004 01:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Lephaid
...or you could just make sports mandatory, like a lot of schools do.


Exactly, a lot of schools do that and it doesn't work. The reason it doesn't work is because most of the kids don't care so they put in little or no effort and don't get anything out of it. It's also generally no more than 30 minutes of actual exercise, which isn't exactly going to make up for sitting in class using virtually no energy the other eight hours they're at school.


Posted by Ek0nomik on Oct-24-2004 04:45:

The real reason why schools can't have vending machines period or on during the day is because they aren't allowed to compete with the school lunch system. We have vending machines at our high school, however they have to be turned off during they day so they don't "compete" with our school lunch. This just boils down to a politics issue.


Posted by PhloTron on Oct-24-2004 05:29:

We had no vending machines, nor a school lunch program. Course, when my school K-6 only had 30 kids in it...there really wasn't a cost benefit to any of this stuff. Mom(s) packed our lunch and we hoofed it to school. Rain, sleet and snow....mostly snow (300" a year)...we had no choice

I wouldn't have it any other way.


Posted by EriK_V on Oct-24-2004 06:19:

my school barely serves us fruit juice yet alone pop and chips!


Posted by StereoPrincess on Oct-24-2004 13:23:

yeah, about the sport thing, they are making gym mandatory 3 times a week. apperently those kids that wanna get out of gym always do anyways so it doesn't really matter to the overweight kids since they are just going to sit on the side lines.


Posted by goonerjack on Oct-24-2004 20:50:

I'm in the 6th form (am 16) and this is the first year that we've had access to vending machines... although if you wanted in the lower years you could sneak into the common room and use them.

To be honest, I hardly ever buy anything from there because it's mostly chocolate, sweets, fizzy drinks etc... and I like to eat healthily.

I think at my age we're old enough to know what to eat, when to exercise etc... you cant blame it on the government or the school system


Posted by OrZonE on Oct-25-2004 03:52:

Changing the schools menu won't make that much of a difference. Many schools have some type of fast food joint within walking distance of them. I'm sure that many will still choose "pizza" over "cucumbers".

If students are more educated to the importance of physical activity it shouldn't matter what they eat while they are in school. The school field should always be available during recess for soccer/football or any other game, and there should be some kind of lunch-program in the gym. Go out have fun, get fit - easy as that.


Posted by StereoPrincess on Oct-25-2004 12:52:

quote:
Originally posted by OrZonE
If students are more educated to the importance of physical activity it shouldn't matter what they eat while they are in school. The school field should always be available during recess for soccer/football or any other game, and there should be some kind of lunch-program in the gym. Go out have fun, get fit - easy as that.


Well, I think that you are thinking about highschool and not elementary school.

We weren't allowed to leave the school when in like grade 2 or 3. That could be a major law suit on the hands of the school.

Another question is, where did you eat your lunch when in elementary school? We ate it at the desk of the class room and then went out for recess after lunch was done.


Posted by OrZonE on Oct-25-2004 18:03:

I guess it would depend on the school, but even in junior high (the one I went to) we still had an option of going outside and playing whatever sport we desired. This was done under supervision of course, on the school playing field.

I'm not sure about grades 2/3 though, since I never attended those in Canada. But this goes back to a point someone made earlier, what are kids that young doing with money "for lunch" anyways. Let their parents make them lunches, I don't care how busy you are don't brush your kids off with "here's 10$ for lunch" when they're 7/8 yrs old.



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