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The type of job you do reflect on your producing skills!
I never realized this, guys, and now that I thought about it, I can take more advantage of the short time I have to produce. Some of you might notice that I always post track samples and templates and I never finish them, even though some are worth of finishing. Well, I work as a helicopter mechanic and flight engineer in the Army. The style of work doing that is multitasking. We do like 4 or 5 critical tasks at the same time and cannot loose track of them. Like fixing a turbine engine, then going out to move aircraft in and out of the hangar, then closing out a flight pack for somebody else, then picking up parts from tech supply, etc. I noticed that I do that with producing. I do many things at the same time and don't focus on one only. For example, instead of getting all the melodies and stuff prepped up for arranging, I throw all this ideas together and don't even finish the arrangement. I start EQing and all other stuff too early, because I wanna do as much as I can in my short spare time. I'm glad I realized that, so now I'll focus more on one thing and doing it right, instead of multitasking. I'll leave that for work where the time limit is really critical. 
So, anybody has gone through the same?
well imo music should reflect the life style of the producer, its meant to come from the heart, i.e if you have no inspiration while trying to make a tune your tune will not inspire others and probley sound crap and flat, where as inspiration focus and feeling will reflect in your sound and other will hear that and want that tune.
you can hear this theory in nearly every album as 4 tracks are good the rest are fillers to make the album, these tunes are made under pressure to complete the album for release hence not as much time or thought has gone in to them even hear same sample re-edits through out the fillers, most peoples 1st album is normaly the best in dance music as the lables want to push artist after the that relases makeing them rush new tracks, where as first album took years of polishing n mastering.
if your music is not part of ur feelings or it dont reflect you life style then your just another copy cat feeding of the nobodys ideas.
blah blahs is at an end
I work as a programmer, and all my music ends up sounding electronic...
You're right...the lifestyle. But since I only work and don't have a life...haven't had one since 2000, I say the work (my lifestyle) reflects on my productions. But you understood. 
The music of all ranges often giving lots of idea in my brain.. hehe
But i still prefer to listen more on electronic stuff.. though my job require to do more on other genre of song. hehe
i used to paint alot (before i started producing) and i have sort of the same problems i had learning watercolour as i do producing music.
when i used to do watercolour i always used layout a basic wash then highlight some of those areas in watered down colour, then basic detail on top of that, then fine detail with very thin brush. but when i first started out i always used to be unsatisfied at the basic detail stage and keep going over the same spot, changing the colours and stuff. it would muddy the paint more often than not and sometimes it would ruin the surface of the paper. in production i used to tweak my drums all the time, after id already EQed them, sometimes changed the drum samples and it ended up sounding muddy and crap in general. i sometimes have the habit of still doing this.
anywho getting to the basic detail bit and coming up short everytime kind of meant i used to get good at getting up until that point, and then slowed down and became hesitant to change anything beyond that in case i screwed it up and ruined the whole painting. usually id get another idea before that happened and id leave the unfinished work and start a new one (which would always be better but i rarely finished anything anyway).
in music i do this loads cuz i have so many unfinished, underdeveloped works where i get to a certain stage and reach the limits of what ive done so far, then get new ideas and persue those leaving a mountain of 2 minute demo songs still with stuff wrong with them. guess i never got out of the habit of working like that.
I'm a network engineer - my work only hinders my production. I get sidetracked finishing projects for outside clients, not having enough time to work on my music. The sad irony is that I work very hard on my full time job and also have a side gig - all to pay for my gear habit but all that work takes away from my time to produce. Also, I found that I get very meticulous with my cabling
However, knowing how routers work, helps me understand how sound (signal) travels in the synth - this was the first time I saw an analogy between what I do and music. It was actually quite a breathtaking moment - that "Eureka" moment.
Tho, I still have much to learn. My work also helps me think up the names for the tunes I'm not likely to produce. Such as few days I was going home from work and this song title came to my mind "Fuck 
Back when I was doing programming for non-gaming company I got addicted to computer games, gave up writing/recording funk music and spent all my spare time instead playing games and writing my own computer game.
That ended up getting me a job in the games industry, and working in the games industry has subsequently made me bitter and cynical about games beyond belief, and actually quite bored of them.
So now I've now gone completely off playing games and have gotten back into music production as my only hobby.
I work at Pizza Hut, and my music doesn't reflect this at all.
I'm unemployed, and I haven't made a track in two months.
Cyne,
Heheh, funny that you mention what you do, as I do the same thing, have experieneced the same feelings you have, with Routers/Switches, and how the packets traverse through the network, as an audio signal moves between the circuits But my producing skills, are very beginning, as I see how peeps have Soooo many tracks to do 1 thing, it seems, my mind sometimes don't think that deep, but then again, due to work, my time in the studio is limited.
Pappa
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| Originally posted by CynepMeH I'm a network engineer - my work only hinders my production. I get sidetracked finishing projects for outside clients, not having enough time to work on my music. The sad irony is that I work very hard on my full time job and also have a side gig - all to pay for my gear habit but all that work takes away from my time to produce. Also, I found that I get very meticulous with my cabling However, knowing how routers work, helps me understand how sound (signal) travels in the synth - this was the first time I saw an analogy between what I do and music. It was actually quite a breathtaking moment - that "Eureka" moment. Tho, I still have much to learn. My work also helps me think up the names for the tunes I'm not likely to produce. Such as few days I was going home from work and this song title came to my mind "Fuck |
Sorry rico, i didnt mean to sound like i was underlineing your post,
like you said working is part of your lifestyle, there is very few producer's that has actualy gave up day job, even a sound engineer's job is not pure production, their main job is to keep studio running and put customer's ideas in audio " generaly its not the engineers ideas ".
i liked what "derivative" said
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the basic detail bit and coming up short everytime kind of meant i used to get good at getting up until that point, and then slowed down and became hesitant to change anything beyond that in case i screwed it up and ruined the whole painting. usually id get another idea before that happened and id leave the unfinished work and start a new one (which would always be better but i rarely finished anything anyway).
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i know where your coming from " good tip get a second pair of ears to listen you tunes " i forget what artist its was but it was someone like vangogh who said "you can allways add and take away , but when you cant add or take away you have made a masterpeice".
i remmember when i first started making tunes they would sound like a bunch of loop's layed on top of each other like blockS, and sounded homemade,
oneday a good m8 was crashed on my sofa and i put a CD in of my stuff and didnt tell him, i got a rush when he said whos this 1 by its a F---ing tune "he told me to f--- off when i said it was 1 of mine" he argued with, when heard others he was sure it was not me, i had to drag him in to my comp to prove it in software enviroment,,
this was good back then all my m8 would take the piss, that point onwards put the haters to shame ,maannnn wat a rush,
Sorry rico, i didnt mean to sound like i was underlineing your post,
like you said working is part of your lifestyle, there is very few producer's that has actualy gave up day job, even a sound engineer's job is not pure production, their main job is to keep studio running and put customer's ideas in audio " generaly its not the engineers ideas ".
i liked what "derivative" said
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the basic detail bit and coming up short everytime kind of meant i used to get good at getting up until that point, and then slowed down and became hesitant to change anything beyond that in case i screwed it up and ruined the whole painting. usually id get another idea before that happened and id leave the unfinished work and start a new one (which would always be better but i rarely finished anything anyway).
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i know where your coming from " good tip get a second pair of ears to listen you tunes " i forget what artist its was but it was someone like vangogh who said "you can allways add and take away , but when you cant add or take away you have made a masterpeice".
i remmember when i first started making tunes they would sound like a bunch of loop's layed on top of each other like blockS, and sounded homemade,
oneday a good m8 was crashed on my sofa and i put a CD in of my stuff and didnt tell him, i got a rush when he said whos this 1 by its a F---ing tune "he told me to f--- off when i said it was 1 of mine" he argued with, when heard others he was sure it was not me, i had to drag him in to my comp to prove it in software enviroment,,
this was good back then all my m8s would take the piss, that point onwards put the haters to shame ,maannnn wat a rush,
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| Originally posted by winters_here Sorry rico, i didnt mean to sound like i was underlineing your post, like you said working is part of your lifestyle, there is very few producer's that has actualy gave up day job, even a sound engineer's job is not pure production, their main job is to keep studio running and put customer's ideas in audio " generaly its not the engineers ideas ". i liked what "derivative" said QUOTE______________ the basic detail bit and coming up short everytime kind of meant i used to get good at getting up until that point, and then slowed down and became hesitant to change anything beyond that in case i screwed it up and ruined the whole painting. usually id get another idea before that happened and id leave the unfinished work and start a new one (which would always be better but i rarely finished anything anyway). ____________________________________________________________________ i know where your coming from " good tip get a second pair of ears to listen you tunes " i forget what artist its was but it was someone like vangogh who said "you can allways add and take away , but when you cant add or take away you have made a masterpeice". i remmember when i first started making tunes they would sound like a bunch of loop's layed on top of each other like blockS, and sounded homemade, oneday a good m8 was crashed on my sofa and i put a CD in of my stuff and didnt tell him, i got a rush when he said whos this 1 by its a F---ing tune "he told me to f--- off when i said it was 1 of mine" he argued with, when heard others he was sure it was not me, i had to drag him in to my comp to prove it in software enviroment,, this was good back then all my m8s would take the piss, that point onwards put the haters to shame ,maannnn wat a rush, |
It think they get kicked in their gut's when you have made something they like, its the feeling like they been left behind "while they been hanging out you been hammering away forgeing a new tune gaining knowledge all the time. tell you even a better 1 ,,, fits in with the hearing change thing,
sitting in a friend's van going to a party (same m8 as before driveing) with a few poeple in the back , he was playing a mix tape he mixed and its moved on in to some heavy tech\trance, there was some comments like "tune & whats this tune called ect ect" they was told the last 3 and next 2 was all by me, oh was the reply, u sure, next tune dropped in then thay started piss takeing "i thought some of the comments was real spitefull and they hurt a bit, until good m8 (driver) said oh thats funny, shame the record lable whos party your going to didnt think the same thing or you lot would be sitting at home playing old playstation games tonight, what really rubbed it in was " and if you really like the tune your gonna have to wait a few weeks before its released then you can buy it" "SILENCE" another natural russsshhhhh,.. only one person in that van is still a friend thats the driver/guy on sofa,.. but i gotta give him big credit, he never knocked me and what i do in fact he pushed, and the fact it was him and his dj m8's that helped few of my tune's get released back then,.
btw, to finish that night out, they had to make there own way back home hahhahahahaa
Re: The type of job you do reflect on your producing skills!
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| Originally posted by RiCo I never realized this, guys, and now that I thought about it, I can take more advantage of the short time I have to produce. Some of you might notice that I always post track samples and templates and I never finish them, even though some are worth of finishing. Well, I work as a helicopter mechanic and flight engineer in the Army. The style of work doing that is multitasking. We do like 4 or 5 critical tasks at the same time and cannot loose track of them. Like fixing a turbine engine, then going out to move aircraft in and out of the hangar, then closing out a flight pack for somebody else, then picking up parts from tech supply, etc. I noticed that I do that with producing. I do many things at the same time and don't focus on one only. For example, instead of getting all the melodies and stuff prepped up for arranging, I throw all this ideas together and don't even finish the arrangement. I start EQing and all other stuff too early, because I wanna do as much as I can in my short spare time. I'm glad I realized that, so now I'll focus more on one thing and doing it right, instead of multitasking. I'll leave that for work where the time limit is really critical. So, anybody has gone through the same? |
SAP consultant... also reflects strongly in my tunage. Very progressive and structured very neatly with a lot happening at once :P
I'm a network engineer as well! that makes three of us in this post.
I don't think my job makes a difference to the way I make music, but all the science I had to study at College and University makes it a lot easier to understand how sound works and how a sound changes if you do this and that to it.
so that brings us to the question. What were the famous musicians before they became famous DJs and producers, e.g.
Paul Van Dyk
Ferry Corsten
Tiesto
Rank 1
Scot Project
...
Can you imagine Ferry Corsten repairing your toilet, DJ Tiesto setting up your car or Rank 1 selling you an life insurance ?
I guess everything we do, everything which has happened in our lifes, the people who are our friends, parents, brother, sisters, girlfriends (...) take an influence ( as we influence them, too )
on the way we live our life, on the way we create our music.
Trancevision
PvD was a carpenter before I think? Or at least he trained to be one. Don't know about the others.
Anyway I don't have a job, and my production skills suck, maybe there's a link
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| Originally posted by DjSimonB PvD was a carpenter before I think? Or at least he trained to be one. Don't know about the others. Anyway I don't have a job, and my production skills suck, maybe there's a link |
i�m a student and i�m still learning about producing...fits together, doesnt it?!
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| Originally posted by Chronosis I'm unemployed, and I haven't made a track in two months. |
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