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My dream has always been to start djing. I have always been listeing to alot of trance for quite a long time (4+ yrs) and I have always wanted to try it as a hobby or somthing. Probbaly on CDJs, and I have a few questions. First I'm looking at the CDJ-1000's, and is there really any diffrence between the CDJ-1000MK2 and just the CDJ-1000? Is it worth the extra $$$. For a mixer, I was thinking of getting a DJM600. cables are not a problem, i have tons of those lying around, same with speakers and headphones. This is quite a lot of cash to shell out for me being 15, it would require me to empty my bank account. Finally, any suggestions on where to order online?

Cheers
- Nick

IMHO, the cdj-1000 is just overrated and over priced. Personally, i think the cdj-800 is just as good w/ all of the features you need. The only thing i wished the 800 would have is the vinyl groove display on the 1000.

AS for the differences between the cdj-1000 and 1000mk2, the main difference would be feel. The origional 1000 has a very tense and heavy feel, while on the mk2 they try to duplicate the 800's feel. There are more differences but someone else could elaborate more.

Another thing, if you do start mixing, get vinyl. It just feels and sounds way better.

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Another thing, if you do start mixing, get vinyl. It just feels and sounds way better.

agreed, if you're gonna put down for a DJM600 and 2 CDJs you might as well get the mixer, and a good pair of decks AND the CDJs(maybe cheaper ones though)

vinyl has more of a genuine feel to it and if you're gonna be into it for the feel of being a DJ, youll find learning on turntables to be more rewarding

if you have an assload of cds however then go for the CDJs

if you get all your music through some P2P program like kazaa, or napster etc... be carefull, i had a pretty large collection of music but i also got some sort of virus or something tht totaly fucked my computer and now i cant even reinstall WinXP

ive since then stuck to vinyl and theres a certain warmth that comes to knowing that you have it on record rather than Cd, i keep good care of my stuff and ive found that Cds tend to get fucked up pretty quick in one way or another much quicker than vinyl


btw, damn you for having the money for that lol... id kill right now for the money to get a DJM600 and 2 CDJS

Cheers guys for the replies;

"you get all your music through some P2P program like kazaa, or napster etc... be carefull, i had a pretty large collection of music but i also got some sort of virus or something tht totaly fucked my computer and now i cant even reinstall WinXP"

I preview the tracks by downloading them and then I usually buy them off a mp3 side and burn it to a cd, so yeah, I do have massive cd collection (for roadtrips, drives, ect ect)

"btw, damn you for having the money for that lol... id kill right now for the money to get a DJM600 and 2 CDJS"

hehe, I can just barely afford it, like I said, it would reqiure me emptying my bank account totally...

Any sites you guys recommend for Canadain users?

im also looking for cdjs my self, man i wish it was cheaper!

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Originally posted by r5a My dream has always been to start djing. I have always been listeing to alot of trance for quite a long time (4+ yrs) and I have always wanted to try it as a hobby or somthing. Probbaly on CDJs, and I have a few questions. First I'm looking at the CDJ-1000's, and is there really any diffrence between the CDJ-1000MK2 and just the CDJ-1000? Is it worth the extra $$$. For a mixer, I was thinking of getting a DJM600. cables are not a problem, i have tons of those lying around, same with speakers and headphones. This is quite a lot of cash to shell out for me being 15, it would require me to empty my bank account. Finally, any suggestions on where to order online? Cheers - Nick

I finally got myself a CDJ-1000 MK2. It's the only CDJ I've ever used, so I'm definately biased, but I can tell you it was worth every cent. I bought mine here for $950 - it's a Pioneer authorized store, so you get the full warranty, plus if you have a friend in the U.S. you might be able to get him to buy it for you, so you can cash in on the $150 rebate you get with each cdj-1000mk2. Not to mention, if you're serious about spinning you may as well get the best equipment you can. Even if you end up hating it, good equipment will re-sell got a good bit.

I'm sure a lot of people are going to come in here and tell you to buy Techs and records. Let me tell you, vinyl is great, but unless you have a steady income and can blow a few hundred bucks a month on records (and trust me, you'll want to blow a LOT more), you'll soon realize just how addictive records are. Even when you buy fantastic tunes, by spinning them over and over you will get tired of them quick.

Since you're 15 I'm going to assume you don't have time to work that often, and your spending money will be tight. That's why I think you should go with CDs. You can buy tracks in full quality wav at www.beatport.com for about $1.50 each. That beats the hell out of $10 a pop for vinyl. I just bought $32 tracks there and had them shipped to me second day air for about $50 total. $32 records sent second day air would cost about $400.

Some people are going to tell you the sound quality is better in vinyl. The truth is (and this comes from direct experience of mixing CDs and vinyls together at the same time) that the quality is indistinguishable if you use .wav files, or some other high quality format. Mp3's WILL sound like shit on a decent sound system. The wav has to come straight from the original, uncompressed track, NOT from an mp3! But just buy from BeatPort, or some similiar service and you won't have to worry about that. On a large audiophile system you could probably spot a difference, but even in a club, you pretty much can't. I've seen James Zabiela spin before, and he pretty much only uses CD, and there's no difference I can tell between records (that the warmup DJ was using) and the CDs. Don't let them pin this righteous-record shit on you either - CDs are every bit as acceptable as records. Sasha has already made the switch to 100% CD, and so are a lot of other big name DJs. They wouldn't be using them if they sucked.

The only real downside to a CD-only setup, is that a lot published tracks these days still end up on vinyl only, but that's quickly changing. Besides, I can find all the little gems I would ever need on BeatPort. And if you're that worried about it, you can buy a used Technic for $250-300, buy it a stylus and use it for records (or rip records straight to CD if you want).

Assuming you're 15 and probably have no steady income, here's what I reccomend: 2 CDJ-1000 MK2, a DJM-600 and, if you can, an EFX-500. You'll be all set for some Zabiela style action. Find a friend in the U.S. who you trust, then transfer him the money so he can buy the shit for you, then have him send in for the rebate. It's a $150 rebate on each CDJ and a $200 rebate on each DJM600. This lasts till Dec. 31 so you've got some time.

*edit* I see above that you're planning to spin your collection of burned mp3s

I reccomend you do not, and start buying tracks on wav. They're cheap, they sound a lot better, and if you ever want to spin at a club it's illegial to do so with tracks you haven't purchased, not to mention pretty immoral, since you're making money off the work of an artist who received no compensation for it.

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Originally posted by nrjizer I finally got myself a CDJ-1000 MK2. It's the only CDJ I've ever used, so I'm definately biased, but I can tell you it was worth every cent. I bought mine here for $950 - it's a Pioneer authorized store, so you get the full warranty, plus if you have a friend in the U.S. you might be able to get him to buy it for you, so you can cash in on the $150 rebate you get with each cdj-1000mk2. Not to mention, if you're serious about spinning you may as well get the best equipment you can. Even if you end up hating it, good equipment will re-sell got a good bit. I'm sure a lot of people are going to come in here and tell you to buy Techs and records. Let me tell you, vinyl is great, but unless you have a steady income and can blow a few hundred bucks a month on records (and trust me, you'll want to blow a LOT more), you'll soon realize just how addictive records are. Even when you buy fantastic tunes, by spinning them over and over you will get tired of them quick. Since you're 15 I'm going to assume you don't have time to work that often, and your spending money will be tight. That's why I think you should go with CDs. You can buy tracks in full quality wav at www.beatport.com for about $1.50 each. That beats the hell out of $10 a pop for vinyl. I just bought $32 tracks there and had them shipped to me second day air for about $50 total. $32 records sent second day air would cost about $400. Some people are going to tell you the sound quality is better in vinyl. The truth is (and this comes from direct experience of mixing CDs and vinyls together at the same time) that the quality is indistinguishable if you use .wav files, or some other high quality format. Mp3's WILL sound like shit on a decent sound system. The wav has to come straight from the original, uncompressed track, NOT from an mp3! But just buy from BeatPort, or some similiar service and you won't have to worry about that. On a large audiophile system you could probably spot a difference, but even in a club, you pretty much can't. I've seen James Zabiela spin before, and he pretty much only uses CD, and there's no difference I can tell between records (that the warmup DJ was using) and the CDs. Don't let them pin this righteous-record shit on you either - CDs are every bit as acceptable as records. Sasha has already made the switch to 100% CD, and so are a lot of other big name DJs. They wouldn't be using them if they sucked. The only real downside to a CD-only setup, is that a lot published tracks these days still end up on vinyl only, but that's quickly changing. Besides, I can find all the little gems I would ever need on BeatPort. And if you're that worried about it, you can buy a used Technic for $250-300, buy it a stylus and use it for records (or rip records straight to CD if you want). Assuming you're 15 and probably have no steady income, here's what I reccomend: 2 CDJ-1000 MK2, a DJM-600 and, if you can, an EFX-500. You'll be all set for some Zabiela style action. Find a friend in the U.S. who you trust, then transfer him the money so he can buy the shit for you, then have him send in for the rebate. It's a $150 rebate on each CDJ and a $200 rebate on each DJM600. This lasts till Dec. 31 so you've got some time. *edit* I see above that you're planning to spin your collection of burned mp3s I reccomend you do not, and start buying tracks on wav. They're cheap, they sound a lot better, and if you ever want to spin at a club it's illegial to do so with tracks you haven't purchased, not to mention pretty immoral, since you're making money off the work of an artist who received no compensation for it.

I couldn't agree more with everything you said.
Vinyl is great and all, but CDJ's are just alot more useful. Almost all big name DJ's now spin almost entirly with CDs.
And for someone who is 15 it is your best bet. You won't be spending nearly as much on music. And you can focus your time on what is important, practicing.
The only thing i would add is that if you really don't want to spend too much money go with the CDJ800's. they are essentially the same as the CDJ1000's. In fact I prefer them because they have the autobeat loop function. If you ever find yourself in a club you will prolly be using the CDJ1000's which work almost exactly the same. Going from the 800's to the 1000's will be no big deal at all.

Thanks alot guys, cheers.
"Not to mention, if you're serious about spinning you may as well get the best equipment you can. Even if you end up hating it, good equipment will re-sell got a good bit." - Thats exaclty why I went with such high end starter equip.

Thanks alot for the feedback guys, apperiate it a ton.


Finally to wrap it up, I was thinking of ordering from like 123djs.com or somthing, but I was hearing mixed reviews about it. Any site suggestions?

Actually I just found http://www.sfm.ca through some Pionner auth seller search in Canada. I guess I'll tax my CDJs at christmas through there!

[edit] nm I found a thread just below this about dj gear in canada[edit]

Avoid 123dj, I've heard a lot of bad things about them. I myself ordered some headphones there a few years back, took fucking forever to arrive, apparantly the first order got lost somehow so they had to send it again.

Wow The price is insanely high, Im going to have to save alot more, totally forgot about taxes/shipping ect. 6.3k!!!!

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