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Apple ipod information required!

To all TA's, i am seriously considering purchasing
an apple ipod, i own a pc. The thought of having all these
wonderful livesets on a portable device is crazy.
I've looked up info on the website, however i have failed
to find key information that is required.

To any TA's that may own one of these i ask you this, does it have any capabilities of being able to import/display cue lists of any sorts. My thinking is if i buy one of these, 99% of mp3s i put on there will be livesets. When using winamp, i use mp3cue which displays the tracks of the set with artist and title. Is there something like this for the ipod? Or does it simply display the file,
eg. Gareth_Emery_GTR-Live_On_The_Weekend_Warm_Up-15-10-2004-djmixes2k.com.mp3 and that's it??? Meaning you have to fast-forward for certain tracks, and the information isn't displayed?
Or can you create your own cuelists?

If anyone can help me out it would be much appreciated. Thanks
in advance.

slick_MF

AFAIK it won't read cue files. You could always split the mp3 into pieces using the cue and hen upload them.

my presumption is that the IPOD will read it as a single mp3 file (if thats how you upload it) and provide the track information as per the mp3 id3 tag information..

if u wish for a liveset to be split into different files, probably best if u split it, and give it its own directory on your IPOD!

what they said.. man doesnt a cue file split it up when you burn it? what use would the cue file have on an mp3 file if anything?

It's like a table of contents in a way dave.

And slick nick... good luck in opening your ipod to change the battery when it dies...........

Get yourself a creative mp3 player, a nomad zen maybe.

iriver have some nice players I believe so too.

Thanks peoples!
I think i get it now. It's similar to burning a set
onto audio format for cd? Say, using Nero, split
the mp3 into separate tracks and then burn it that way.
Thus, the ipod will display the separate tracks of the whole
mp3 set. Correct?

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Originally posted by Hybrid Junkie And slick nick... good luck in opening your ipod to change the battery when it dies........... Get yourself a creative mp3 player, a nomad zen maybe.

Have to agree there, my experiences with the battery on the IPOD isn't favourable, many of my friends have had there's die on them, and they have to be replaced at considerable cost. Ontop of that, the IPOD battery dosen't last as long as I would like.

The creative players sound just as good to me, (some say they sound better, but I can't tell) and the battery lasts much longer.

I wouldn't never buy an IPOD again, if only I had known this before.

they dont use rechargable batterieS?

iRIVER iHP-140 or iHP-120 all the way!! eats ipod alive

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Originally posted by 00soups00 my presumption is that the IPOD will read it as a single mp3 file (if thats how you upload it) and provide the track information as per the mp3 id3 tag information.. if u wish for a liveset to be split into different files, probably best if u split it, and give it its own directory on your IPOD!

spot on.


with the battery issue, it definitly is a bit of a problem, not the longest lasting but its not too bad.. dont take the bar up the top of the ipod as an indication of remaining battery life as it often changes and does not give a real representation of how much play time u have left.

Other than that, I think its an awesome little gadget and hasnt given me any major problems. I get ample use from it, and its great to carry around especially if going travelling.

i would have got an ipod however it doesn't record from line in - which is no good when one of the big uses [for me] is recording sets.

I'd either go the new iRiver colour one [forget the model number now..] or the nomad zen.

I've had a Nomad Zen for two years now (apparently I was the first person in Australia to get one), and it's still going strong. Only has a 10 gig capacity, but realistically that's more than enough music to listen to, it's not often you think "I wish I had that set on here"...

iPods are apparently much easier to use, however, so if you're not really a computer geek the iPod may be a better option.

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Originally posted by webmeister iPods are apparently much easier to use, however, so if you're not really a computer geek the iPod may be a better option.

Yeah iPods are definately for the noobs. My girlfriend just bought one, and although the size is great, the whole putting files on there and organising them is gay. You have to have the iPod software installed on your computer to put files on there as far as I know, which is a pain in the arse.

iPods is to Mp3 players, what Coke is to soft drink.

There are better and cheaper ones out there but due to publicity / advertising everyone goes for the iPod.

there is a plugin for winamp so you can use winamp to upload files http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=138888
havent used it, i dont own an ipod

also remember when you split your files into seperate mp3s they wont be gapless, ie there will be a short pause between tracks

Thanks everyone for your comments,
so let me get this straight....

ipods are well marketed and thus popular amongst heaps of people
and they are easy to use. You need special programs to burn mp3s onto them and the organising of the tracks is really gay. You can put livesets on them and the ipod will list the tracklist with the relevant cue times.

well the reason i wanna get some kind of mp3 player is because of all the livesets that i have on my computer. I wouldn't say i'm a noob when it comes to computers and burning tracks. i just want something that is light, compact, has a fair bit of storage capacity, easy to carry and lets me customize the shit out of it.
I wanna have access to all my best livesets and simply switch between them, between the tracks in them, and go off!

What should i get?

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Originally posted by slick_mf Thanks everyone for your comments, so let me get this straight.... ipods are well marketed and thus popular amongst heaps of people and they are easy to use. You need special programs to burn mp3s onto them and the organising of the tracks is really gay. You can put livesets on them and the ipod will list the tracklist with the relevant cue times. well the reason i wanna get some kind of mp3 player is because of all the livesets that i have on my computer. I wouldn't say i'm a noob when it comes to computers and burning tracks. i just want something that is light, compact, has a fair bit of storage capacity, easy to carry and lets me customize the shit out of it. I wanna have access to all my best livesets and simply switch between them, between the tracks in them, and go off! What should i get?

you dont burn songs onto an ipod

none of the players at the moment will read cue files, and if you split up the tracks you are going to have to live with pauses between the tracks

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Originally posted by Nic you dont burn songs onto an ipod none of the players at the moment will read cue files, and if you split up the tracks you are going to have to live with pauses between the tracks

Well that's why i'm askin, aren't I. I've got no idea
how these things work, all i know is that they play mp3s,
which i have an abundance of.

I know about splitting the tracks separately and how
this will have pauses throughout. is there a way of splitting
the tracks, ala Nero, that therefore doesn't have pauses?

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Originally posted by slick_mf Well that's why i'm askin, aren't I. I've got no idea how these things work, all i know is that they play mp3s, which i have an abundance of. I know about splitting the tracks separately and how this will have pauses throughout. is there a way of splitting the tracks, ala Nero, that therefore doesn't have pauses?

no, its a limitation of 1: the mp3 player, and 2: the mp3 standard

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Originally posted by slick_mf is there a way of splitting the tracks, ala Nero, that therefore doesn't have pauses?

Nup - I have one and that is a 'slight' irritation for me. If there was a way around this, trust me I would have found it.. alas no.

(anybody wanna buy an iPod?)

how much ? how many gig...

email me [email protected]

Well i must be a noob but i love my 40gig ipod.

I especially like that i got an itrip attach it to the headphone jack on the top of the ipod and then play ipod on any fm radio. Tune it into a free station and there you go ipod in the car, or anywhere else with an fm radio.

Do these other diet pepsi's of the mp3 player world have that?

the battery life on the gen.4 ipods are an improvement over previous generations (but still doesn't match the performance of some of its competitors).

for your livesets, you essentially have two options.
1. split the liveset into individual files on your PC, then move/copy them to your iPod (as mentioned previously you will have a slight gap in-between tracks).
2. move/copy the whole liveset to your iPod.

someone with an iPod might be able to answer this...does the ipod remember the position within a track you were playing if you power-down whilst in the middle of a track?

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Originally posted by Simon00 Well i must be a noob but i love my 40gig ipod. I especially like that i got an itrip attach it to the headphone jack on the top of the ipod and then play ipod on any fm radio. Tune it into a free station and there you go ipod in the car, or anywhere else with an fm radio. Do these other diet pepsi's of the mp3 player world have that?

you can get fm transmitters that can plug into any device, besides why would i want that ive got a full computer in my car for mp3/divx

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Originally posted by matt.h the battery life on the gen.4 ipods are an improvement over previous generations (but still doesn't match the performance of some of its competitors). for your livesets, you essentially have two options. 1. split the liveset into individual files on your PC, then move/copy them to your iPod (as mentioned previously you will have a slight gap in-between tracks). 2. move/copy the whole liveset to your iPod. someone with an iPod might be able to answer this...does the ipod remember the position within a track you were playing if you power-down whilst in the middle of a track?

Yes

If you have a big set and want to fast forward you dont have to hold the ff button just spin around the click wheel and it moves through the display to the time you want.

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Originally posted by Nic you can get fm transmitters that can plug into any device, besides why would i want that ive got a full computer in my car for mp3/divx

Well obviously we dont all have car stereo's as advanced as Norad

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