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Posted by spdandpwr on Oct-26-2004 07:25:

retard with turntable (desperate help)

I bought a Stanton str8-80 for 189 dollars and a trackmaster II SK for another 69 dollars. I have a question though. First how do i adjust the tonearm and all that for scratching. Also how do i know if my equipment is legit and not grey market or somehting. can u explain how to mount like i know nothing because i checked the sites install guide and was lost.

this is what the site gives me:

Trackmaster series: Trackmaster AL, Trackmaster II AL, Trackmaster II SK, Trackmaster II RS, iTrack

"0" on the antiskate "0" on the tonearm height adjustment 4 to 5 grams on the stylus pressure adjustment

what i want to know is how do i set my counterweight to 4-5 is there isn't a 4-5 it goes from zero to 3.5


Posted by TempesTrip on Oct-26-2004 07:31:

Ok i'm really restraining myself here but all you have to do is just math wise if they say 4.5 and there isn't a 4.5 on the dial just do the math when you are turning the knob and your good.


Posted by Cheetah86 on Oct-26-2004 07:33:

To make it even simpler, turn it one full rotation(to 3.5), then add on from there, so spin it til it hits the 1 and that's 4.5. (I broke it down in case you're really confused)


Posted by tu_face on Oct-26-2004 08:17:

first of all, the carts you have bought are headshell integrated. this means you don't actually have to mount them. they screw directly into the tonearm of the deck, just stick it in and spin the spinny bit on the end of the tonearm until its nice and tight, but don't overtighten it, you can fuck up the contacts.

to balance the cart you need to get it to, yep you guessed it, balance . remove the stylus guard and take off the catch which holds the tonearm down, and while holding the handle thing on the cart screw your counterweight all the way in (which pushes the cart right down) then screw it out again until the cart balances level to the platter (without you holding it) but just above it. make sure the tonearm is as horizontal as you can make it. a few degrees either way will mean you are not applying the pressure that the counterweight says you are. one you have balanced it as well as you can, put the tonearm back in the catch and spin the scale on the counterweight (note: this spins independently of the counterweight itself) until 0 is at the top and lined up with the line on the tonearm. then spin the entire counterweight round past 3.5, past 0, until you reach 1 again and you now have 4.5g of stylus pressure


Posted by failsafe on Oct-26-2004 17:24:

qbert says to set the tonearm height to 3.5mm on his how to scratch dvd. i'd assume he'd know what he's talking about.


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Oct-27-2004 10:17:

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
first of all, the carts you have bought are headshell integrated. this means you don't actually have to mount them. they screw directly into the tonearm of the deck, just stick it in and spin the spinny bit on the end of the tonearm until its nice and tight, but don't overtighten it, you can fuck up the contacts.

to balance the cart you need to get it to, yep you guessed it, balance . remove the stylus guard and take off the catch which holds the tonearm down, and while holding the handle thing on the cart screw your counterweight all the way in (which pushes the cart right down) then screw it out again until the cart balances level to the platter (without you holding it) but just above it. make sure the tonearm is as horizontal as you can make it. a few degrees either way will mean you are not applying the pressure that the counterweight says you are. one you have balanced it as well as you can, put the tonearm back in the catch and spin the scale on the counterweight (note: this spins independently of the counterweight itself) until 0 is at the top and lined up with the line on the tonearm. then spin the entire counterweight round past 3.5, past 0, until you reach 1 again and you now have 4.5g of stylus pressure


very nice explination Tu Face...bravo, good way of breaking it down


Posted by spdandpwr on Oct-27-2004 22:51:

installing the cartridge was easy but the only problem i have now is people coming into my dorm room and trying to scratch. they then say that its ok and its meant for it. They cue burn and sometimes hit the needle. It must be liike the 100th time that my needle hit the turnable. i spent over 500 dollars to get a table and a mixer. the last thing i need is for this stuff to break cause they wanna scratch with my stuff. The at one point would stop spining when someone tried scratching too!


Posted by DannyO on Oct-27-2004 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
installing the cartridge was easy but the only problem i have now is people coming into my dorm room and trying to scratch. they then say that its ok and its meant for it. They cue burn and sometimes hit the needle. It must be liike the 100th time that my needle hit the turnable. i spent over 500 dollars to get a table and a mixer. the last thing i need is for this stuff to break cause they wanna scratch with my stuff. The at one point would stop spining when someone tried scratching too!


OK this you need to stop, I dunno how it is for the rest of the DJs on this board, but I'm really picky as to who touches my decks, and I would FLIP on anyone who did anything like that, seriously tell them to piss off, shout, yell, fight, throw acid, anything, but get the message across that its not a toy, and there not DJs, so stay the fuck away, dam man, you seem calm typing this, its not even my deck and I'm pretty pissed off right now.

BUT MAKE THEM STOP SOMEHOW.


Posted by auujay on Oct-28-2004 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DannyO
OK this you need to stop, I dunno how it is for the rest of the DJs on this board, but I'm really picky as to who touches my decks, and I would FLIP on anyone who did anything like that, seriously tell them to piss off, shout, yell, fight, throw acid, anything, but get the message across that its not a toy, and there not DJs, so stay the fuck away, dam man, you seem calm typing this, its not even my deck and I'm pretty pissed off right now.

BUT MAKE THEM STOP SOMEHOW.


Wise words from a wise man. I rarely let people mess with my tables, they must be either DJs or my girlfriend (cause I can't say no and after she tried to scratch ones she doesn't want to to it anymore).

The problem with people who do not know what they are doing but try to scratch do not realize how delecate scratching is. They see some DJs pushing the record back and forth at it looks real easy, but to really scratch you have to be surprisingly light on the record and most people just don't get that.


Posted by spdandpwr on Oct-28-2004 04:57:

yeah i can't wait to go home and leave my stuff there. anyways i was looking at my records closely and i already have scratches that make some records unplable now. lucky for me there was extra at the store but it cost me a month of outings and days of being hungry just to pay for the table and mixer. What i wanna do know is go and get a job to buy records another table and learn how to scratch trance.


Posted by tu_face on Oct-28-2004 07:40:

yes definitely slap them.

correct, they are built for scratching, but unless these people know what they are doing they WILL fuck up your kit.

tell them to go and shell out on their own decks if they want to 'scratch'


Posted by Dave Piazza on Oct-28-2004 09:22:

quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
installing the cartridge was easy but the only problem i have now is people coming into my dorm room and trying to scratch. they then say that its ok and its meant for it. They cue burn and sometimes hit the needle. It must be liike the 100th time that my needle hit the turnable. i spent over 500 dollars to get a table and a mixer. the last thing i need is for this stuff to break cause they wanna scratch with my stuff. The at one point would stop spining when someone tried scratching too!





The same situation happened with my ex-roomate last year. I got fed up telling him everyday to stop touching the turntables so I just went mental on his ass. I picked him up ( nearly ripping his shirt ) and through him out of the apartment.I locked him outside for a good 30 min. As you can see we werent the best of roomates A few days later I moved out and got my own apartment and my equipment was safe from my d!ck head roomate


Posted by spdandpwr on Oct-28-2004 17:40:

one quick question, how do i know if i am scratching properly? my scratches are pretty good and i get them at the hihat and apply very little pressure on the record. i saw some vidoes on scratching looks like i do it right.


Posted by auujay on Oct-28-2004 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
one quick question, how do i know if i am scratching properly? my scratches are pretty good and i get them at the hihat and apply very little pressure on the record. i saw some vidoes on scratching looks like i do it right.


I am no expert, but I would not worry as long as you can scratch the needle is not always jumping / you don't need tons of stylus pressure to stop it from skipping.


Posted by Zild on Oct-29-2004 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by spdandpwr
one quick question, how do i know if i am scratching properly? my scratches are pretty good and i get them at the hihat and apply very little pressure on the record. i saw some vidoes on scratching looks like i do it right.


Visit this website http://www.asisphonics.net/theever.html that will get you going with learning how to scratch.


Posted by Cheetah86 on Oct-29-2004 18:24:

http://www.futureproducers.com/tutorials.php
This is a good site for basic scratching video tutorials as well, although there aren't as many scratches listed here as asisphonics.


About people touching your stuff:
I never had a problem with it, if they want to scratch I give em a scratch record I dont care about and tell them to go crazy, or if they want to try beatmatching I give them dual copies of For an Angel and tell them to only play with one ON THE LABEL. The rest of my records... nobody else touches!



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