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-- Ok, so i've always hated 'techno' but i wanna give it a chance...need some help

Ok, so i've always hated 'techno' but i wanna give it a chance...need some help

Well maybe hate is too strong a word, just never got into it, despite having seen almost all the major techno dons spin.

Carl Cox ( <--- Great presence, but his set just didn't do it for me )
Kevin Saunderson
Plastik Man
Picotto ( <---- Made my ears bleed !!! ---> )
Technasia
Dave Clark
Jeff Mills
Danny Howells

Sven Vath ( Played what is probably the only techno set which completely blew me away )


So, who do you tech heads recommend i listen to, so i can change my opinion of techno. I'm willing to give techno a fair chance, but it seems every song is almost exactly the same as the last one, with maybe just subtle variations in fx's or an added layer of sound.

I don't mind the furious techno pace (although it's impossible for me to dance to it), but i'd like to hear a set or mix comp that showcases the best of techno right now...

open to suggestions...

Adam Beyer's Essential Mix 2002

Michel de Hey
Michel de Hey - Essential Mix (06-09-2002)

Secret Cinema
Secret Cinema - live at Dance Valley (02-08-2003)

EDIT: And Cari Lekebusch... MMM.
Cari Lekebusch - live @ Tresspasser (05.05.2002)

Nice, i've read Beyer drops some tight sets...gotta track that EM out. Thanks Graham.

Preach and Misstress Barbara, as well and any Hawtin sets you can get.

I'm crazedcanuck on soulseek

^^^

Must say i'm very curious about what a Preach set sounds like after reading so much good stuff about him. Same with Mistress Barbara (i've heard her spin as Ms Brown (or something -- which was a housey set ))

One word for her: Relentless!

Pff, get with it man, some of those aren't even really techno.

Download a couple of sets from these:

- Adam Beyer
- Ken Ishii
- Umek
- Cave (shut up Graham)
- Gaetano Parisio
- Chris Liebing
- Misstress Barbara (if you like funkier techno - lots of her sets and the Relentless Beats 2 album)

I'm not sure exactly which sets to recommend from all of them, but a few notable ones I can think of that shouldn't be too hard to find are:
- Adam Beyer Live @ Electronica Festival Istanbul, 05/06/2004
- Adam Beyer Essential Mix 2002
- Preach's edmm.ca mix from 2004 (not his very best but pretty good)
- Cave's first (January 2003) or last (August 2004) demo mix, you can get them on his web site, www.cave.no. The older one is more funky/latin, the new one is very tribal. Don't get the middle one, it's kind of iffy.
- Ken Ishii - Millenium Spinning at Reel Up (it's actually an album), or basically almost anything from him

I don't think those are even the best sets, they're just good ones.

I also don't even know who's on it but Mirza once posted a gigantic 3� hour techno set on here that is still probably one of the best I've ever heard - just give me a shout on IM and I can send it to you. Trust me, you'll find something you like on it.

Edit: Or DigiNut on Soulseek when I'm actually online, which is hardly ever.

MARCO BAILEY @ MAYDAY 2003

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Originally posted by DigiNut Pff, get with it man, some of those aren't even really techno.

hehe, well techno's so generic it's hard to pin down what flava of techno i have listened to. It's like house, everyone has their own definition of what is, and what isn't techno.

I think i've probably heard more detroit techno then 'propa' techno (which is what i suspect ppl like Umek, Beyer, Lieb, Cox, Cave) spin.

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Originally posted by Kytracid I think i've probably heard more detroit techno then 'propa' techno (which is what i suspect ppl like Umek, Beyer, Lieb, Cox, Cave) spin.

Yeah, or more accurately, European and specifically Swedish/German techno specifically. Cave is from the Netherlands or something but it's all in that same little area. Detroit techno has kind of an old school sound to it that I don't really like much either. They're both technically 'proper', just very different. I think Cox is closer to Detroit than European...

Stay away from DJ Rush, Marco Remus, etc. if you don't like noise, even I can't handle them for more than 20 minutes.

P.S.
KEN ISHII!!

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Originally posted by DigiNut Yeah, or more accurately, European and specifically Swedish/German techno specifically. Cave is from the Netherlands or something but it's all in that same little area. Detroit techno has kind of an old school sound to it that I don't really like much either. They're both technically 'proper', just very different. I think Cox is closer to Detroit than European... Stay away from DJ Rush, Marco Remus, etc. if you don't like noise, even I can't handle them for more than 20 minutes.

LOL, exactly that old detroit sound might have been cool back in the day, but all those blips and blops just sound outdated now. The only detroit techno track i ever liked was "Nyte of the Jaguar". Thanks for the cautionary tip as well, can't stand noise disguised as techno (that stuff is almost as bad as Happy Hardcore - almost, that honor goes to TerrorCore (which i listened to for about 2.5 minutes )still makes me shudder !)

Sven Vath threw down a great set at Twilo a few years back which i enjoyed immensly, so did Jeff Mills when he spun at Limelight (nothing quite like a techno party in a church with dominatrixs and slaves in cages suspended high from the cielings -- blew my mind )

Thanks for the suggestions, i think i'll start the education off with a little Adam Beyer and sprinkle in a few Preach sets as well. Hopefully in a few weeks my opinion will have changed


edit: LOL, ok KEN ISHII as well -- just cause i like the way that name rolls off my tongue....ISHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII !!!

wow
Unbeleivable because I love techno to death!!!!

But my Favourites I think you should try are Misstress Barbara and Richie Hawtin!!!!!!!!

I can dance to techno better than I can dance to anything else really.

Dancing to Trance is definately something I would like to work on myself.

Adam beyer

+1

Its not even the greatest set, but I really like Miss Kittin at I Love Techno 2003.

Good to hear you're still open minded about techno despite hearing a lot of it that you don't like.

I think the suggestions in this thread are good, but if you're not into Carl Cox, Technasia, Saunderson or Picotto then you're probably not going to enjoy Hawtin, Barbara, Cave or Parisio. All of the top DJs are playing the same records with the same sound.

Right now I'm going through a phase with techno where I'm looking for something new, something different, a new sound to get hooked on. Lately I've found popular techno to be fun, but ultimately predictable.

If you're looking for SOULFUL techno (ie not bang bang, not tribal, not noise) try searching for sets/CDs by Bryan Zentz, Chris Cowie, Claude Young, Stacey Pullen, SLAM, Miss Kittin (very eclectic techno like Vath can play) Mr C...and locally, the dukes, Kenny Glasgow, tim patrick (there is a set for download on tribe from harvest festival - kickass!).

I think Barbara and Cave are a bit different from the rest. And Slam (when he's actually putting on the techno records) is a lot like Picotto - not Picotto in Toronto, which usually sucks, but Picotto if you listen to his live sets from overseas.

Depending on which set you get, Umek can also be radically different. Some of their sets sound like typical schranz or swedish techno, others are veering on the side of house music. And in Umek's more electro-ey sets, there'll be a lot of tracks you won't hear anywhere else, they're often this quirky house-electro-techno hybrid (NOT tech house, there's a difference).

Miss Kittin is definitely different - if you're not into anything you've heard so far then try one of her sets.

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Originally posted by Pettiscool Adam beyer +1

yeahhhh I totally forgot about him!

slam is two guys aaron

Sarah's suggestions and advice are very good, and I would advise following them.

And while it sounds like the kind of techno you've heard and *not* liked is the kind of techno I do, I have a few more ideas to throw into the mix for you:

- T. Raumschmiere
- Monika Kruse
- Steve Bug
- Huntemann
- Laurent Garnier

If you can't find something you like among all of the ideas that people have provided in this thread, something tells me that techno is not for you.

Thanks for the suggestions guys, really appreciate it.

I think i tend more towards the soulful techno as Skipper put it, although there are times when i just go crazy when a real stormer of a track is thrown into the mix. My problem with a techno set is when every track is a fast n furious bass driver. I'm looking for the journey, so i expect it to start slow, and then build up to an apex where suddenly you're in the middle of a techno storm (or something like that .

So of the guys mentioned, i've already listened to and enjoy:

Sven Vath (<--- Top Class, always delivers as far as i'm concerned)
Kenny Glasgow (<-- while i wouldn't say he's purely techno, this man is just a bad boy on the decks -- love his sets...love em !!! )
Chris Cowie (<--- heard his mix comp which was very good )
Stacey Pullen (<--- enjoyed his stuff as well )

I find most of the top Techno DJ's a little harder to appreciate, but i'm definately digging the diverse sounds that some of the lesser known techno dj's are trying to promote.

haha I like it ...reading this thread is like going wine tasting. "Rentless soulfoul electric" 1855 Saint-Emilion Grand Cru? ..

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