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Educating the salesman on the Technics SL-DZ1200
I'm ready to upgrade my CDJ100s so I went to Guitar Center (a music equipment store) to demo the Pioneer CDJ800, 1000, Denon S3000 and Technics SLDZ1200. I was really liking the 1000's but the salesman said "You really should check out these Technics.. they are awesome and I've had people return the Pioneer 1000s for these." Instantly I thought of the video that is going around where the digital scratch on the Technics sound like crap when the pitch lock is on. I asked them if he heard about that issue and he said no. Up to this point I didn't know if it was 100% true or not. Sure I saw it on video but I've never heard it live.
I put in my CD and scratch on the Technics. He says "It's nice isn't it?" Then I hit the pitch lock and scratch. It sounded AWFUL! It didn't really scratch and it just sounded like a video game. The look on his face was priceless! It looked like someone told him his hampster died. I said, "I heard that the Technics is no good, this being the main reason." He's like "Hmm maybe it's just this deck."
"Nope it's on all of them. Okay back to the Pioneer's."
He didn't say anything to me about the Technics after hearing the distortion. All that said, I think I will go for the 800's... only thing I don't like is the .05 pitch control increments but I don't know if it's worth a few hundred more to get the 1000's with .02 increments.
I also demo'd the new Pioneer DVD deck. It is AWESOME the way you can manipulate video like a song. When you scratch on it, it's like the person on the video scratches with you! They only had one deck set up so I'm really curious how you can mix video clips with it. It's nothing short of revolutionary.
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| Originally posted by roosh I put in my CD and scratch on the Technics. He says "It's nice isn't it?" Then I hit the pitch lock and scratch. It sounded AWFUL! It didn't really scratch and it just sounded like a video game. The look on his face was priceless! It looked like someone told him his hampster died. I said, "I heard that the Technics is no good, this being the main reason." He's like "Hmm maybe it's just this deck." "Nope it's on all of them. Okay back to the Pioneer's." |
If I ever decide to buy cd decks it will probably end up being at guitar center and hopefully I'll get to do that if the salesman brings them up. 
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| Originally posted by roosh I also demo'd the new Pioneer DVD deck. It is AWESOME the way you can manipulate video like a song. When you scratch on it, it's like the person on the video scratches with you! They only had one deck set up so I'm really curious how you can mix video clips with it. It's nothing short of revolutionary. |
he pointed you to the technics cus theyre the most expensive and sleek looking deck.. dumbass... i should work at GC... its nice to have employees who have product knowledge.. not just some guy whos there to make money
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| Originally posted by roosh I also demo'd the new Pioneer DVD deck. It is AWESOME the way you can manipulate video like a song. When you scratch on it, it's like the person on the video scratches with you! They only had one deck set up so I'm really curious how you can mix video clips with it. It's nothing short of revolutionary. |
0.05 increments is amazing when youve been using 0.1, you can do a 160 beat mix and only have to make a few corrections - and because of the smoothness of the joghweel you can make them withotu their being any noticable pitch change or "wowing"
ive recently upgraded one of my cdj100s to a cdj800 and im looking to get another asap 
what exactly is the pitch lock and waht does it do?
When you increase the pitch, the tones increase too. The master pitch turns the sound back to it's original tones. Allthough I can't really see the point of it during scratching...
i don't ever listen to the salesmen at GC and places like that. sometimes its nice to get another opinion but take it with a grain of salt. usually the people there aren't dj's and therefore cannot give you the advice you need. the advice you can get in these forums is much better than what you can get in those stores.
pioneer dvd deck? holy shit that sounds badass... whats the name of it
dvj
You guys do realized that salesman at Guitar Center do get a 5 percents each item they sold. It all make sense on why this sales man wanted you to buy expensive Technics.
I had my share of stupid ass salesman story. This took place in 2002.
I wanted to buy a new mixer. This sales employee came up to me and reconmanded me buying the Numark DM3001 for 200. Now he was a pushy salesman, he was very fast talker, and mean at some point. Now here is the catch of the story. I asked him how much of discount can I get with the DM3001. He said, "I can get it down by 180 USD." I was cool with it. At the final moment, he caculated the final price. It was 208 USD. Now I live in Maryland, the state tax is 0.05 percent. The final price was suppost to be 195.3. This cocksucker earn a extra 13 dollars on top of his 5 percents share.
Fuck you salesman!!
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| Originally posted by Tiger777 When you increase the pitch, the tones increase too. The master pitch turns the sound back to it's original tones. Allthough I can't really see the point of it during scratching... |
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| Originally posted by Liam Yeah why is it a big deal that you can't scratch with this feature enabled? I have never used a CDJ, so I'm pretty clueless. |
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| Originally posted by Ken_Allen people are just WAYYYY to fucking picky and want everything on spot perfect or they wont buy the pos. |
for �700+ id expect those cd decks to have a built in microwave and beer can holder so i could chow down whilst spinning. turn it upside down and voila - a toilet for those situations where you just cant leave the stage area. anything less and i aint handing over the cash. its just rubbish if you cant take a dump in it.
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| Originally posted by Exodus17 he pointed you to the technics cus theyre the most expensive and sleek looking deck.. dumbass... i should work at GC... its nice to have employees who have product knowledge.. not just some guy whos there to make money |
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| Originally posted by Liam Yeah why is it a big deal that you can't scratch with this feature enabled? I have never used a CDJ, so I'm pretty clueless. |
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| Originally posted by limin_li You guys do realized that salesman at Guitar Center do get a 5 percents each item they sold. It all make sense on why this sales man wanted you to buy expensive Technics. I had my share of stupid ass salesman story. This took place in 2002. I wanted to buy a new mixer. This sales employee came up to me and reconmanded me buying the Numark DM3001 for 200. Now he was a pushy salesman, he was very fast talker, and mean at some point. Now here is the catch of the story. I asked him how much of discount can I get with the DM3001. He said, "I can get it down by 180 USD." I was cool with it. At the final moment, he caculated the final price. It was 208 USD. Now I live in Maryland, the state tax is 0.05 percent. The final price was suppost to be 195.3. This cocksucker earn a extra 13 dollars on top of his 5 percents share. Fuck you salesman!! |
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| Originally posted by roosh you scratch mostly in hip hop, and hip hop songs can have a wide range of BPM speed. you may want to beatmatch the songs but they are way different, say 95 bpm vs 102 bpm. so your vocals don't sound like a chipmunk at +4.5, you pitch lock it and the crowd cant tell you increased the speed. but with the technics the dj cant scratch on that track now. when you pay ~1000 USD on a piece of equipment, it should work. the technics do not. |
now i understand the movie oh well.
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