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Dave Clarke Tricks

I think dave uses these tricks but anyone know for sure how he does the trademark cut/flick
and the beat stammer he does

Im sure the the flick is done by using the phono/line switch
But is there any effects he uses at the same time

and im sure the beat stammer he does is by letting of kick of same record on deck 2 as deck 1 to the hi hat of the playing record, so getting a boom-boom, when the cross fader is flicked between playing channels

But does anyone know this for sure

Nick

he uses the transformer on a djm600/500/other fx device to do the cutting, switching the timings as and when he needs a different tempo, x-fading other kicks in over the top sometimes.

Do you change the speed or the effect control to achive that

I have used the transformer at 105 or 110 speed but it doesnt seem to have the crispness

it depends on the tempo, use the auto beat syncing thingy. it is very hard to get right, even using an efx500, timing must be absolutely 100% spot on. he switches between 1/4, and 1/2 beats (100 and 200 ish).

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Originally posted by tu_face he uses the transformer on a djm600/500/other fx device to do the cutting, switching the timings as and when he needs a different tempo, x-fading other kicks in over the top sometimes.

you know i haven't really explored the trans button at all on my efx500... i mean i've played with it a little but it just sounded stupid

is it a valuable tool? how do you use it?

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Originally posted by stevebutabi you know i haven't really explored the trans button at all on my efx500... i mean i've played with it a little but it just sounded stupid is it a valuable tool? how do you use it?

it is a valuable tool, but its fucking hard to use! i can never get it right, you have to be so precise with it otherwise it just sounds tripe. you have to switch it on bang on time, in order to get the stutter/cut sound, then you fuck with the timings ala dave clarke to get the different tempos and you can crossfade other samples in over the top to get a stutter on a combo of samples. very hard.

i think it takes a lot of practise, and a shitload of skill, neither of which i have using the transform lol...

having said that, it IS very useful in conjunction with the fuzz effect, speeding up and slowing down the stutter on it can counter-act the loudness of the fuzz and sound really really cool if you are creating your own breakdown. using it on low timings is reccommended for this, as well as keeping an ear on the master track coming from your mixer to make sure you get the fucker back in in time..

tu_face

do you know how he beat stutters the 2 of the same records
Does he beat juggle the 2 records
or do you think he let's one on the off beat
ie: record 1 boom - tis record 2 tis - boom

getting the boom - boom or tis - tis sound

have tried that transformer on my DJM600 to try the same cut
But practise might be the key
is the effect better on an efx500

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Originally posted by nevans tu_face do you know how he beat stutters the 2 of the same records Does he beat juggle the 2 records or do you think he let's one on the off beat ie: record 1 boom - tis record 2 tis - boom getting the boom - boom or tis - tis sound have tried that transformer on my DJM600 to try the same cut But practise might be the key is the effect better on an efx500

i'm not entirely sure i know what you mean on this one... i think you mean when he does the double beat off the same track? this is done with the delay effect. using a djm600 switch it to delay and set the timing to 1/2 beat (around 200 ish), then switch the depth from off to on in time with the beat (at twice the rate) and you will get a repeat effect. this way you can get a "boom-boom-tis-tis" sound a la eddie halliwell.

as far as the transform on an efx500, if anything its probably harder to use lol...

Thats the one will try it out tonight

Cheers

I use the transform effect on my DJM-600 frequently. It does have to be beatmatched to work correctly as most of the other effects. It takes some practice to be able to hit it dead on, but it's not that hard. The less the bpm value, the harder it is to hit it dead on, but it makes for a nice effect when used at the right time.

Dave Clarke tends to use oldschool turntablist tricks.

As for transforming, or transformer scratching it's best done with a line/phono switch. Flicking it on and off in rythm. That's how it should be done and that's how I have seen Dave Clarke do it.

Getting the beat to stutter between two tracks is quite easy, just get to copies of the same track, play one and then start the other just of beat and play around with the cross fader, you will soon get the idea.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Dave Clarke tends to use oldschool turntablist tricks. As for transforming, or transformer scratching it's best done with a line/phono switch. Flicking it on and off in rythm. That's how it should be done and that's how I have seen Dave Clarke do it. Getting the beat to stutter between two tracks is quite easy, just get to copies of the same track, play one and then start the other just of beat and play around with the cross fader, you will soon get the idea. Cheers Nem

Well said, thats how I do it, but with my new mixer the X1500 you can send the same track to another channell then apply the delay effect at 1/2 and then use your x-fader to jump back and forth from the vinyl and the effected vinyl, you can also change this to 3/4 and have it kick the beat in just before a beat and kinda make a sound thats:

BOOM - tis - BOOM - tis - BOOM - tis - BOOM -
------------------------------------^BOOM goes here.

Kinda hard to explain but when done right can really add to the track, also can be used on vocals and hi hats and alike, makes for a creative set, just wish I had an external FX unit to apply some extra effects, but that will happen soon enough.

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Originally posted by DannyO with my new mixer the X1500 you can send the same track to another channell

thats posh as fcuk!

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Originally posted by tu_face thats posh as fcuk!

No kiddin man, you can send the signal to all 4 channells, have one with effects on top, and another for setting the Low EQs to a certain setting, then another with the High EQs set at another, then do some fast jumping around, it works wonders on Techno, plus then you got a nice sampler to record a loop, trim it then have it brought in when a beat dies out, like if there is a breakdown in trance that goes on forever like Svenson - Sunlight Theory (O-Zone mix), some people don't like how its just a hands in the air buildup, so you can record a nice bassline and bring the bass in to keep the energy, or send it to the effects unit, change the rhythm, add a delay then use the crossfader as a wet/dry fader and jump back and forth, when done right you can then change that 4/4 beat into a breakbeat and make a wicked buildup for the crowd, keeps the energy and people will go nuts as they won't of heard something like it before, seriously its a stupidly good mixer for when you want to get creative, I plan to make videos soon showing off the things it can do, but that could be awhile...got no camera.

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Originally posted by DannyO No kiddin man, you can send the signal to all 4 channells, have one with effects on top, and another for setting the Low EQs to a certain setting, then another with the High EQs set at another, then do some fast jumping around, it works wonders on Techno, plus then you got a nice sampler to record a loop, trim it then have it brought in when a beat dies out, like if there is a breakdown in trance that goes on forever like Svenson - Sunlight Theory (O-Zone mix), some people don't like how its just a hands in the air buildup, so you can record a nice bassline and bring the bass in to keep the energy, or send it to the effects unit, change the rhythm, add a delay then use the crossfader as a wet/dry fader and jump back and forth, when done right you can then change that 4/4 beat into a breakbeat and make a wicked buildup for the crowd, keeps the energy and people will go nuts as they won't of heard something like it before, seriously its a stupidly good mixer for when you want to get creative, I plan to make videos soon showing off the things it can do, but that could be awhile...got no camera.

sweet as..!

have they dealt with the fader issues yet?

i need money. but the thing is, if i get money, after hearing that i will be so torn between this and the nuo5 i will probably just die in a corner..

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Originally posted by tu_face sweet as..! have they dealt with the fader issues yet? i need money. but the thing is, if i get money, after hearing that i will be so torn between this and the nuo5 i will probably just die in a corner..

The faders and x-fader have been fixed, and a bunch of things have been added, but they haven't released it yet since they want to get there new website up first, this was surposed to be complete by early september, but as you can see it hasn't been done, the mixer does work really well anyway, the only thing you can't really do is volume drops, the x-fader seems fine unless your a scratch DJ, but to add to this mixer, there has been talk about adding on extra effects like distortion, phaser, vocoder, reverb, but thats just talk at the moment, there is also talk of a rotary kit coming out, but you can do it yourself right now, it doesn't take much and I've seen the guy do it, and it performs awesome, I'm just hoping Denon release one for about 50-100 bux, as for the Nuo5, I was torn between the 2 aswell, I'm a big Ecler fan, and they did make a killer mixer, nice faders, quality FX, well built, and awesome sound, but the Denon lets me be more creative because of the sampler and the matrix mainly, the sound quality is extremely good though, I've heard that mixer on a good set of speakers with all the FX gains volumes turned up, and there was hardly any noise coming through, so under normal mixing, you will not hear it, the only real gripe I have is the noise in the headphones, but unless you turn them way up on a slow quiet track, you will not notice that either, I can't really help you with which one to get, there both amazing in there own way, so just get one them slam them to bits and see which you prefer, if your still torn, then flip a coin , but best of luck man, either one will blow your mind.

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Originally posted by DannyO The faders and x-fader have been fixed, and a bunch of things have been added, but they haven't released it yet since they want to get there new website up first, this was surposed to be complete by early september, but as you can see it hasn't been done, the mixer does work really well anyway, the only thing you can't really do is volume drops, the x-fader seems fine unless your a scratch DJ, but to add to this mixer, there has been talk about adding on extra effects like distortion, phaser, vocoder, reverb, but thats just talk at the moment, there is also talk of a rotary kit coming out, but you can do it yourself right now, it doesn't take much and I've seen the guy do it, and it performs awesome, I'm just hoping Denon release one for about 50-100 bux, as for the Nuo5, I was torn between the 2 aswell, I'm a big Ecler fan, and they did make a killer mixer, nice faders, quality FX, well built, and awesome sound, but the Denon lets me be more creative because of the sampler and the matrix mainly, the sound quality is extremely good though, I've heard that mixer on a good set of speakers with all the FX gains volumes turned up, and there was hardly any noise coming through, so under normal mixing, you will not hear it, the only real gripe I have is the noise in the headphones, but unless you turn them way up on a slow quiet track, you will not notice that either, I can't really help you with which one to get, there both amazing in there own way, so just get one them slam them to bits and see which you prefer, if your still torn, then flip a coin , but best of luck man, either one will blow your mind.

by the sounds of this, when these updates come out i think it will sway towards the denon!

you are right though, it is going to come down to thrashing the shit out of both of them, then deciding

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Originally posted by DannyO No kiddin man, you can send the signal to all 4 channells, have one with effects on top, and another for setting the Low EQs to a certain setting, then another with the High EQs set at another, then do some fast jumping around, it works wonders on Techno, plus then you got a nice sampler to record a loop, trim it then have it brought in when a beat dies out, like if there is a breakdown in trance that goes on forever like Svenson - Sunlight Theory (O-Zone mix), some people don't like how its just a hands in the air buildup, so you can record a nice bassline and bring the bass in to keep the energy, or send it to the effects unit, change the rhythm, add a delay then use the crossfader as a wet/dry fader and jump back and forth, when done right you can then change that 4/4 beat into a breakbeat and make a wicked buildup for the crowd, keeps the energy and people will go nuts as they won't of heard something like it before, seriously its a stupidly good mixer for when you want to get creative, I plan to make videos soon showing off the things it can do, but that could be awhile...got no camera.

Sounds awesome.........dammmn make me want one =)

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