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Posted by retiro on Nov-02-2004 22:51:

FL Studio crackles....

Hi guys, have any of you experienced this? When I use several synths along with 20 or so samples in FL Studio (4.5.2.) I suffer from a crackle etc when I play them altogether! I have changed my audio settings in the ASIO panel to try and make it better. I then progress to increase the latency to 500 from 50, although this makes it slightly better it isn't cured! I am running a P4 3.0GHZ, 512MB Ram and a Creative Labs Audigy soundcard! If anyone has over come this please let me know - would be greatly appreciated!

thanks!

PS. If you suggest a new soundcard then fair enough. Been looking at the M-Audio Audiophile 192 - good choice?


Posted by Derivative on Nov-03-2004 02:45:

a new soundcard wont do anything to aleviate the cpu load. so dont even bother buying one unless you want more inputs/outputs.

what synth plugins are you using? some synth plugins eat cpu for breakfast, especially when you run several instances of them with high polphony. z3ta+ is a big offender. vanguard can sometimes get ridiculuous if you make pads/leads with high polyphony. some synths like dirtbag are just badly programmed and take a huge cpu hit when you simply add them.


Posted by moth on Nov-03-2004 04:31:

Sounds strange for those system specs. I can run about 4 instances of z3ta and all the fx i need without a whole lot of trouble. Maybe try a different set of drivers. My latency is set to 25 ms. Try disabling some of the more useless functions in fruity. turn off all the visual feedback, they are inaccurate and thus pointless anyways.


Posted by BeatSMiTH on Nov-03-2004 05:04:

Someone else pointed this tip out earlier to improve performance in FL. Click on the menu box on the mixer and select "switch smart disable for all". It reduced CPU load on one of my tracks by over 20%.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-03-2004 07:38:

Crackling? Wouldn't that usually just be a soundcard problem? I mean, his computer is fast, and the only thing not up to speed is his sound card.. soooo.. maybe, just maybe, thats the problem


Posted by Dj Pyster on Nov-03-2004 09:48:

I experience the same thing and my computer runs off of a 3ghz processor, and tons of memory, plus I use a Extigy so the sound card shouldn't be the problem.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-03-2004 11:58:

Creative sound cards aren't good... Theyre for gamers


Posted by Dj Pyster on Nov-03-2004 11:59:

True, but it does me justice.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-03-2004 12:01:

Yes, but you said you experience the same thing... hence a common similarity between the two systems is creative cards. Speaks for itself?


Posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ on Nov-03-2004 13:21:

set your latency to as high as it can go and itll fix the problem or set your asio to half duplex instead of full duplex which will allow it to manage it better in my experience with creative cards


Posted by retiro on Nov-03-2004 16:15:

I see the general consensus is a new sound card! Like I said above I have been checking out M-Audio Audiophile 192. Is this a wise choice?

Many thanks to all that replied!


Posted by Derivative on Nov-03-2004 19:32:

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Crackling? Wouldn't that usually just be a soundcard problem? I mean, his computer is fast, and the only thing not up to speed is his sound card.. soooo.. maybe, just maybe, thats the problem


once again. a new soundcard wont alleviate cpu load which causes sound to skip and crackle. audigys have rubbish ASIO drivers though so take it off ASIO and use normal latency. thats whats probably causing the problem. render all audio tracks to loops and reassemble when it gets unbearable. i had an on board intel soundcard before i bought an m-audio delta 1010. i can and have switched between them whilst producing and there is no noticable difference in pops and cracks, no noticeable difference in cpu load and no noticeable difference in sound reproduction. the only thing i do notice when i siwtch to the delta 1010 is that i now have 8 ins/outs, SPDIF connectivity and midi connectivity instead of a headphone jack on the back of my pc. which is very useful. you can buy a new soundcard if you really want to but it really wont make that much difference. even the ASIO on my delta isnt fantastic since im maxing out the ASIO latency and most of my productions still become crackled when my CPU loads hits the upper 90s.


Posted by retiro on Nov-03-2004 20:01:

Thanks for your advice Derivative! This is somewhat a pain cos 3.0GHZ should be plenty! Maybe if I upgrade to 1GB Ram and also change my soundcard to the M-Audio Delta 1010LT! I have a brand new pair of Behringer Truths sat upstairs redundent, all because of the 3.5mm jack plug only output... argh! So a change I am up for! Once again thanks for your advice!


Posted by Expher on Nov-03-2004 20:52:

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Originally posted by retiro
Thanks for your advice Derivative! This is somewhat a pain cos 3.0GHZ should be plenty! Maybe if I upgrade to 1GB Ram and also change my soundcard to the M-Audio Delta 1010LT! I have a brand new pair of Behringer Truths sat upstairs redundent, all because of the 3.5mm jack plug only output... argh! So a change I am up for! Once again thanks for your advice!


I have the same problem as you mate. And, as you, 3 GHz CPU, so this shouldn't be the problem in this case. Neither this problem is due to the memory, 1 GB DDR2. I have made a bit researching in this "pain in the ass"-problem and this is pretty much what i have come up with: the crackeling is due to the latency getting coused by the rather bad card, Audigy

The problem should be fixed very easily by buying a new soundcard (DSP - Digital Signal Proccessor, which means that there are VST instruments that are made for the soundcard and the power they are requiring aren't affecting the CPU). I belive it's a great idea buying a M-Audio Delta 1010LT, a friend has it and he loves it completly. So... i would bought a new soundcard like the Delta 1010LT, as i even will, when I can afford it.

Im up for any reply, thanks.


/Johan


Posted by retiro on Nov-03-2004 20:58:

Thanks for your opinion Johan - I shall research into this new soundcard! Maybe upgrade my memory too... shall see! Again many thanks!


Posted by Expher on Nov-03-2004 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by retiro
Thanks for your opinion Johan - I shall research into this new soundcard! Maybe upgrade my memory too... shall see! Again many thanks!


Yeah well, not a bad thought


Posted by Ken_Allen on Nov-04-2004 02:30:

Ahh yeah...Adjust the buffer rate, I've always had this problem until I started messing with the buffer rate.


Posted by Derivative on Nov-04-2004 03:35:

just to clarify, a DSP card is separate from a soundcard and is basically a card with the processing power equivilant to something like 4 apple mac g4s. it basically handles dedicated DSP effects and sometimes dedicated synths such as the virus powercore. they are EXTREMELY expensive. note DSP will have no effect if you use your host plugins or VST instruments. DSP only helps out with software designed to run on it. these plugins are usually very good anyway but they are expensive.


Posted by travbrad on Nov-04-2004 06:13:

Try increasing your buffer length, like someone else said. When i installed FL on my laptop (which has a REALLY BAD sound card) i had the same problem and i just set my buffer way up, and no more crackling


Posted by moth on Nov-04-2004 08:22:

I read that certain creative cards are stressed when running at anything other than 48 khz (even at 41.1), but I think that was for the SoundBlaster Live, which i use.... haha.



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