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It's a great day for America.
America has spoken!!

What did America just say to the world today?

They said that they support a strong leader and a man of spiritual strength, who believes in God and has strong morals and ethics. That is exactly what America said and it must be quite painful in the ears of all the unbelieving liberals.

This is a victory for all of the faithful christians of america.

It's intersting that more young people came out to vote for Bush than did Kerry in the end because they stood up for their moral christian beliefs. The liberal youth of america stayed home and played Xbox. I guess the lib celebs like the rappers and the Springsteens didn't mean much or maybe it's that they decided to vote Bush instead because of their moral conscience? hmmm...

What does all of this mean now? It means Bush is not only the strongest leader since FDR IMO but quite possibly the most powerful U.S. president in generations. Strong Republican domination of Senate, House and soon presidential appointments to the judiciary branch. This is indeed a great day for conservative america! Don't get me wrong now, I support a balance of power with checks and balances but it has been sickening in recent times how this partisan gridlock has hindered the advancement and betterment of our nation. Bush has enough power now to accomplish most anything he has planned. If Bush wants to add an ammendment to the constitution to ban gay marriage he now has the power to do that and many other things.

What the world saw with this election is that there is indeed a division in the USA, but that division is the division religious belief in america. This is the fact. This was a battle between faithful christian america and unfaithful or non-christian america and if you don't believe this you are just plain ignorant or in denial. The opposition opposed Bush because of his beliefs and strong morals. I don't really think it was so much about Iraq honestly. I believe now that was mostly a liberal front. It could have been donald duck instead of Kerry and it would have made no difference. They voted to oppose Bush and everything christian that he represents. This is the other side of america. As much as liberal america would like everyone to believe, a moral christian america is still very much alive and strong.

God bless America.

You said that?

Go take your Bible and bash yourself in the head with it a few times you fucking freak.

Modern democracies are supposed to be SECULAR...that's right god squadder...CHURCH AND STATE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATE!!

take your fairy tales and stick them up your ass.

One of America's founding principles was freedom of religion, and now we're left with some Bible-belt conservative to govern the policies of our country and amend our constitution how he sees fit. Good bye, Bill of Rights.


You did know that John Kerry is Christian, right? Idiot.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Go take your Bible and bash yourself in the head with it a few times you fucking freak. Modern democracies are supposed to be SECULAR...that's right god squadder...CHURCH AND STATE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATE!! take your fairy tales and stick them up your ass.

Relax The State of Denial has no electoral votes

54 million people spoke different from the US you piece of garbage.


Bush maybe won the elections, but he sure didn't win the respect that a president needs, the world is still against him, and so are 54 million people from the US.

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Originally posted by Massive84 54 million people spoke different from the US you piece of garbage. Bush maybe won the elections, but he sure didn't win the respect that a president needs, the world is still against him, and so are 54 million people from the US.

The State of Denial has no electoral votes

quick shift from relax, speed

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 Go take your Bible and bash yourself in the head with it a few times you fucking freak. Modern democracies are supposed to be SECULAR...that's right god squadder...CHURCH AND STATE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEPARATE!! take your fairy tales and stick them up your ass.

I agree with this, though perhaps not in so virulent a matter. Moral beliefe should NEVER enter the policy making realm, but unfortunately this is not reality (for either major party).

It has nothing to do with denial. There will be a flurry of legislation that is in blatant disregard to the principles this country was founded upon.

Do I sense an air of bitterness?

Freedom of religion does not mean the same thing as freedom from religion.

It's just another meaningless ad populum. Might doesn't make right, and neither do numbers. In the realm of legitimacy Bush's election is and always will be a farce.

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Originally posted by Shakka Do I sense an air of bitterness? Freedom of religion does not mean the same thing as freedom from religion.

As a conservative you should know more than anyone:

There is no such thing as "freedom to," there is only "freedom from."

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Originally posted by Arbiter As a conservative you should know more than anyone: There is no such thing as "freedom to," there is only "freedom from."

Care to elaborate?

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Originally posted by Shakka Care to elaborate?

It's inherent to the nature of "free"-dom. If you are free of something, that means you do not have it or are unaffected by it. To be free is to be unencumbered. Freedom can not be an entitlement or a right, for it truly is nothing more than a state of independence from some particular controlling influence.

I would have thought that those who believe in small government and laissez-faire economics would understand most easily what genuine freedom is.

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Originally posted by Arbiter I would have thought that those who believe in small government and laissez-faire economics would understand most easily what genuine freedom is.

That branch of conservatism died on 9/12. Now it's a curious hodge podge of trade protectionism, and bigger government in the face of smaller revenues.

Or, I'm beginning think that conservatives never actually were for smaller government and laissez-faire economics. Sounds more and more like it was just a tagline they liked to use when a democrat is in the white house. Because I haven't changed my views and yet I guess I went from being a "conservative" to a "liberal" in 2000 or 2001.

in case anyone cared...

your angelic Bush
so religious... the pope said him several times he was against the war in Iraq ! but your president didn't care at all...


this argument said, i don't f*cking care about bush or the pope, but that should affect you religious freaks

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Originally posted by occrider That branch of conservatism died on 9/12. Now it's a curious hodge podge of trade protectionism, and bigger government in the face of smaller revenues. Or, I'm beginning think that conservatives never actually were for smaller government and laissez-faire economics. Sounds more and more like it was just a tagline they liked to use when a democrat is in the white house. Because I haven't changed my views and yet I guess I went from being a "conservative" to a "liberal" in 2000 or 2001.

It seems to be a problem no matter which party is in the white house. Both parties no longer embrace the concept of freedom, but rather have their particular view of how all people ought to live and try to force it on everyone using whatever power they can acquire. The Republicans seem worse in this respect now, but it may be only because they have such unchecked power.

The fact that such a large portion of the population has radically shifted views without even acknowledging it says something powerful to me: it says that people are not basing their political views on sound philosophy, facts, or reason, but on blind faith in a political party. When democracy has reached that point, it's difficult for me to surmise how to view American democracy as anything but a failure.

It entertains me that there is attempt to persuade our country that our country will be more united than ever after this election, yet the two halves of the voting populace couldn't be more divided.

tecnolover, you are an abomination to Christianity. Why don't you go to Iraq and join the Crusades there? After all, isn't that the moral thing to do?

On Religion & Polotics

I think it's great that one has something that they can hold strong to their heart and believe in. Whichever make's you happy and a stronger person, I think that's great. I myself, have belief's.

Yet, I also believe that it's wrong to take what you hold close to your heart, in any political decisions, any way, any form. I know that everyone has their own agenda's, some more than other's, yet this is two paths that I don't believ should cross. Even being the person I am. I feel this way because there are those that, no matter what, may not, and in some cases, do not believe in what another does.

Those that made their choice for a candidate soely upon morality issue's, and beliefs, that's great. In democracy everybody vote's for what they believe in. Yet, I do think that their are other issue's, besides beliefs, that are important and should go into that decision making as well, especially when voting someone into office. A sentate, governer, president, these all affect you.

One's performance should not only be able to give their agenda, they should be able to protect you. Jobs, security, etc. These are all major issues that don't always come upon with morality.

In cases, from what I've seen, morality is not the only major issue in any campain.

Thanks for reading.

Rodas

How ironic. CNN has nearly the same headline running as the subject of this post. http://www.cnn.com/
Darn i missed the Pres. Bush's speach.

Just want to say to all liberals in here and everywhere in USA that I sincerely hope we will all try to get along after this. On this issue I agree with Mr. Kerry whole-heartedly. I am also glad that Mr. Kerry conceded like a gentleman and didn't turn this into an ugly series of court battles. I respect and admire him for this. Yes, this was a rough election and yes there is a religious split here in the USA but we are all family and one nation. I hope that we all can shake hands like good sportsmen and continue to be friends and work together, support our re-elected president and support our fellow citizens who are fighting abroad. We are the strongest nation on earth and perhaps only we can destroy ourselves. Peace.

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Originally posted by tecnolover I hope that we all can shake hands like good sportsmen and continue to be friends and work together, support our re-elected president and support our fellow citizens who are fighting abroad. We are the strongest nation on earth and perhaps only we can destroy ourselves. Peace.

Sportsmanship is for sports; this is politics - it's serious, not a game. I'll shake hands with conservatives and support the president when - and only when - they cease all efforts to unjustly infringe upon my freedom and the freedom of others at home and abroad.

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Originally posted by tecnolover It's a great day for America. America has spoken!!

exactly man, AMERICA has spoken....
sad we KNOW that

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Originally posted by tecnolover Just want to say to all liberals in here and everywhere in USA that I sincerely hope we will all try to get along after this. On this issue I agree with Mr. Kerry whole-heartedly. I am also glad that Mr. Kerry conceded like a gentleman and didn't turn this into an ugly series of court battles. I respect and admire him for this. Yes, this was a rough election and yes there is a religious split here in the USA but we are all family and one nation. I hope that we all can shake hands like good sportsmen and continue to be friends and work together, support our re-elected president and support our fellow citizens who are fighting abroad. We are the strongest nation on earth and perhaps only we can destroy ourselves. Peace.

do you think that bush would have done the same for kerry if the roles had been reversed?

something tells me that there would have been a very ugly, 11 day battle with bush as the victor.


and if you look at history, the romans, the greatest empire ever, destroyed themselves. let's not repeat history and make the same mistakes.

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