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Crap mainstream music: blame Bush?
OK I didn't write this, someone posted it at another forum. I don't know if it's true or not but it's an interesting read. So does this guy have a point or is he full of shite?
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| Well there go my hopes of a rejuvenated mainstream musical industry. Had Kerry won, MAYBE pop culture would have reverted back to normal by 2006, but kiss that goodbye. When the economy fell, Bush's solution to dealing with this was to give tax breaks and benefits to the biggest corporations(aka his "buddies"), and the music and film industries have suffered because of this. As a result, the little guys of the business have been chewed out almost completely. The four major record labels have since bought out just about all of the smaller labels that used to have a hold on the market, and have you ever heard "this is a message brought to you by the people at Clear Channel Corp." while listening to the radio? Well guess what, Clear Channel is a company that bought out 9 out of every 10 major radio stations accross the country, and they give every single station a predetermined play list so that they're all identical and dictated to the point in which Clear Channel has the ability to promote and play what they want to. This is why we have nothing but overprocessed and generic crap to listen to on every style of radio station, excluding independent and college stations. And Bush made it all possible. Had John Kerry won, his pro-middle class/anti-corporation approach would have eventually settled in and forced huge monopolies, like Clear Channel for example, to break up into smaller affiliated companies or even to break up completely. We could have had a potential return to the media format of the 90s....but no, Bush is back and ready to set us back even further with his greedy ways. It'll more than likely take another 8 years for Bush's damage to the music industry to be reversed, possibly longer considering what the next president may do. Same goes for the motion picture industry. If you don't believe me, then ask yourselves this. When you check the movie listings, do you not only see A)Action movies(Arnold fights the Aliens), B)Teen movies(some girl tries to win prom queen), C)Some romance story(J-LO tries to get her 20th husband back) or D)Computer animated cartoons(Finding Nemo, Shark Tale, what's next.....finding Nemo's Pet Shark?)? When you listen to the radio or turn on the tv, do you not see A)angsty "rockers" in their late 20s/early 30s singing about high school and how much "life sucks", B)talentless drivel-filled teen idols that all sound and perform the same, C)rap and country artists that have ABSOLUTELY NO CONTRIBUTION TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE HUMAN RACE, and finally D) Craptastic "throwback" "rock" that tries to CREATE MUSIC'S FUTURE by USING THE PAST....ugggghhhhh......???? If you answered yes, which you have to, then you've been a victim of how the corporate world deprives us of any change and sticks to successful stereotypes. There is no opportunity for the creative and talented members of these industries, at least not in Bush's society. Let this be a lesson, come 2008.......vote, and vote for the right candidate. |
Possible, but not plausible.
Sorry, but no. MTV and major record labels have always dominated the minds of most of the country. Always will, always have.
Believe it or not, Bush didn't invent capitalism.
that may have been some of the dumbest comments I have ever read. blame the right wing for the downfall of music. you've got to be kidding me.
if bush had that much control we would all be listening to christian rock music and country.
the music industry is suffering because of the lack of talent and the repeated pushing of cookie cutter bands and artists.
the music industry has a formula...
develop an act--->put one good song on an album with 10 bad ones--->sell 1 million copies----->attempt another album with one good song and 10 bad ones----->throw out the band and start looking for a new one.
talented bands dont sell records anymore. they fight for their musical lives against this cookie cutter strategy. music companies would rather sell a million records each for 50 different acts then sell 250k each for 200 acts.
nonsense 
Marilyn Manson said he hoped that Bush would win.
He said that most effective way to stimulate underground music movements and cultural rebellion is the ongoing presence of a conservative, right wing government.
He does have a point.
Kerry has just as many corporations backing him as any other politician. To blame a president for the failure of interesting music is idiotic. It's like blaming the moon for causing my car to run out of gas.
The RIAA buys up other labels and producers because they know that there is where the money is at. Maybe 1% of musicians make money from record sales; most musicians make money from performances. The record companies know this and want to stop anyone else from getting into their highly profitable business. It's called cost of entry.
This will only continue as long as the masses continue to eat up all the drivel that the record companies throw out to them.
Bunch of cry babies. Let's blame Bush for everything. It's easy to make him the scapegoat, so go for it! 
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| Originally posted by surfrgal Marilyn Manson said he hoped that Bush would win. He said that most effective way to stimulate underground music movements and cultural rebellion is the ongoing presence of a conservative, right wing government. He does have a point. |
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| Originally posted by hill_matthew I wish people listened to what that guy has to say more often - love it |
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| Originally posted by w3y This will only continue as long as the masses continue to eat up all the drivel that the record companies throw out to them. |
People often overstate the effect the Government in power has over the economy, business and social affairs.
IMO it barely makes any difference the Government that is in power over such issues...
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| Originally posted by w3y The guy doesn't reallyl say anything. Just because Manson makes an observation, he's suddenly right? Every president that we've had has been moderate to moderate-conservative. We have yet to have an extremely liberal president. Of course his comment is going to be valid. |
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| Originally posted by t�bias People often overstate the effect the Government in power has over the economy, business and social affairs. IMO it barely makes any difference the Government that is in power over such issues... |
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| Originally posted by surfrgal I think most people would agree that Bush is very conservative. And historically, underground movements do tend to be fostered under conservative governments. I dont think Manson was saying that it HOW it's going to be. He was more saying that he HOPED the ongoing presence of a conservative government would fuel these movements and make kids start rebelling. |
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| Originally posted by w3y I guess you've never been to Macroeconomics. Sure government can't control the economy, but they know that there are certain things that they can do to either stimulate it or retard it. |
I didn't bother to read the article but any adminstration influences busines practices but enforcing federal law and regulations. If bush permits greater consolidation among the media companies (radio, record companies, and technology companies) this may hinder innovation, and this may hinder the music industry blagh blah...i have to go.
But yes Bush may hurt innovative music.
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