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what do you do with breakdowns? let them play? drop a beat behind? chnge the song b4 the breadown?

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i call my psychiatrist, she usually helps me out.

on a serious note, why wouldn't you play the breakdown?

sometimes it's just really cool to have a moment of silence in the room, then a bunch of people start to whistle and yell, and then just drop a fucking bomb or so. Sometimes the crowd go nuts, sometimes they don't, anyway, screw them who don't !!! Just an idea but sounds cool to me.

breakdowns r there for good reasons
1 - it builds alot of energy into the track in the build up gets the crowd going
2 - u would kill people from dancing to much without breakdowns people do need a rest once in a while

Depends on the track. I usually let the breakdown play, but I don't have that much breakdowns during a set. I spin mostly progressive, breaks and tech-house, and those songs usually don't have much of a breakdown in them.

Whenever I play trance though, I usually just let the breakdown play. It builds up a certain tension, it makes people excited. As your set progresses, you can always pick songs that don't have a breakdown (or a very short one) to keep the energy going.

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Originally posted by dj jasonF what do you do with breakdowns? let them play? drop a beat behind? chnge the song b4 the breadown?

I have to agree with the majority here and say leave them in. They serve a purpose and it's pretty awesome when people start going mental during the break right before the track starts banging again. A word of warning, if you drop track after track that have immense breakdowns (almost into silence) you might end up boring the crowd to death. It's nice to have a good breakdown every once in a while but over and over can deflate the energy a bit.

One of my pet hates is DJ's who feel the need to mix the kick of the incoming track over the top of a breakdown. Really pisses me off - I honestly can't see the need. If the producer wanted a massive kick dwarfing all those pads and little melodic motifs, he would've programmed it into the tune. Leave it out!

Whats with you people and having issues with breakdowns?? I've never seen so many complaints and problems with a portion of a track with no beat. Thats a part of most music, and unless your on a serious crack high, or rolling mad balls, breakdowns are good.

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Originally posted by Wraith A word of warning, if you drop track after track that have immense breakdowns (almost into silence) you might end up boring the crowd to death. It's nice to have a good breakdown every once in a while but over and over can deflate the energy a bit.

Word...

I've seen many a floor clear off to the bar after one too many break downs =)

Damnit.

Instead of asking us on a forum, why not start playing around with ideas until you come up with something awesome? DJing is all about being flexible and having no limitations. You have virtually every piece of music ever published at your fingertips, and an infinte amount of ways to combine them. The sooner you free yourself from these formulas that will never ever work consistantly, the sooner you'll start to really kick ass.

There is no formula to DJing.

There is no formula to DJing.

There is no formula to DJing.

There is no formula to DJing.

There is no formula to DJing.

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Originally posted by sebjr Word... I've seen many a floor clear off to the bar after one too many break downs =)

no prob with breakdowns. i love them =). up there is the reason i made this threat

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Originally posted by nrjizer Damnit. Instead of asking us on a forum, why not start playing around with ideas until you come up with something awesome? DJing is all about being flexible and having no limitations. You have virtually every piece of music ever published at your fingertips, and an infinte amount of ways to combine them. The sooner you free yourself from these forumlas that will never ever work consistantly, the sooner you'll start to really kick ass. There is no forumla to DJing. There is no forumla to DJing. There is no forumla to DJing. There is no forumla to DJing. There is no forumla to DJing.

What's a forumla?

No seriously, I have to agree 100% on this one.

Just experiment untill you find something that works for YOU.

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Originally posted by nrjizer There is no formula to DJing.

And the world is black and white.

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Originally posted by sebjr Word... I've seen many a floor clear off to the bar after one too many break downs =)

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Originally posted by Nou Same with not enough breakdowns, can clear floors just as fast. Anyways, yea, its all about a good combination of tracks with big breaks and more filler type tracks. Personally I like tracks with shorter breaks or not even breaks, just bridges, it really seems to keep the energy going, then you can drop in a track with a nice long long break and have some cool down time.

Yep both are entirely true, hence we have the art of DJ'ing and track selection. You can be technically awesome, but if you can't play the right tracks at the right time you'll be mediocre at best.

Most mainstream crowds don't want to stand around for 2 minutes waiting for the beat to kick back in. The breakdown is preventing them from rubbing against whatever honey they're dancing with, and thus prolonging the time it takes to leave the club and head to the hotel.

I have a CD folder full of custom edits of trance songs to either eliminate or severely reduce the breakdowns in songs I want to play. Not because I don't like the breakdowns, but because if I want to introduce this music to a crowd that's never heard it, I have to keep it very high energy for 20-30 minutes at a time. Otherwise, I have to play the club remixes of In Da Club, Missy Elliot, and Sandstorm.

So it's a compromise.

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Originally posted by djxtension Just experiment untill you find something that works for YOU.

ok i like that but if the crowd doesnt like it...???? im not asking for me as a listener or maybe even as a dj, im asking as an entertainer.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery And the world is black and white.

It was 5 am and I had been up since 9am working, running off 3 hours of sleep, what do you expect?

i just let them play, its hard to mix a beat with a breakdown.

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Originally posted by nrjizer Damnit. Instead of asking us on a forum, why not start playing around with ideas until you come up with something awesome? DJing is all about being flexible and having no limitations. You have virtually every piece of music ever published at your fingertips, and an infinte amount of ways to combine them. The sooner you free yourself from these formulas that will never ever work consistantly, the sooner you'll start to really kick ass. There is no formula to DJing. There is no formula to DJing. There is no formula to DJing. There is no formula to DJing. There is no formula to DJing.

Bravo man, I couldn't agree more, people need to stop trying to follow a certain style of mixing, and come up with something of there own, if producers and DJs didn't do this, we wouldn't have the music we have today.

**Posted again, as first was lost in harddrive crash**

i usually let my ears cool off.

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Originally posted by sebjr Word... I've seen many a floor clear off to the bar after one too many break downs =)

Juniie XL, 2 months ago...

The problem I have with breakdowns is they've become a symptom of the formulaic generitrance nowadays. "Oh I'm doing a trance tune, gotta put in a breakdown."

There's breakdowns, and then there are breakdowns.

What I mean by that sentence, is that too often breakdowns are put into a track just because it's the usual thing to do. Too often it's not put in well enough. You've got to build that breakdown correctly, finesse that baby.

There's almost nothing I hate more than to have a nice driving, beating, energetic drumbeat stop for a breakdown that doesn't really make sense for that song.

I'd rather the DJ play 2-3 tracks without breakdowns, then bring in a major tune with an epic breakdown... Much better than every track having one.

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