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Bush didnt win Ohio

BLACKBOX VOTING, a non-profit coporation has released info stating that in Ohio, a town with no more than 700 registered voters, was reported to have given FOUR THOUSAND + votes to Bush. tthey suspect that the computers were easily hacked and set prior to election day to give that many votes to Bush. BLACK BOX VOTING company has reason to believe that this is just one in so many hundreds of incidents. since it is a non-profit organization, it needs to raise $50,000 to be able to do the research necessary in the computer voting machines, as well as for lawyers to bring it up to the government to be looked at..... read for urself....

www.blackboxvoting.org

....seems legit to me, which is kinda freaking me out. now we know the reason they didnt want print-outs so we culd see if the computer results were correct....

Bush won Ohio by 137,000 votes, those 4 thousand wouldnt help.

the one town with less than 700 ppl that they investigate and theres 4000 given to Bush???? what about Cleveland and Columbus and Cincinatti? if 700 registered voters can mean 4000 votes given to Bush on those computers in that LITTLE TOWN, who knows how computers were rigged in the big cities?

Come on, be alittle less brainwashed. Did you honestly think that there wouldnt be shit spreading around about stuff happening - THIS IS POLITICS GOD DAMN IT - theres always illegal shit and lying going on behind closed doors for both parties.

it turns out one county in Ohio with those DIEBOLD voting machines reported NEGATIVE 25,000 votes. that�s what at least one election official in Ohio said. The votes from that County are lost. Not counted. GONE!

EVERY STATE that has E-voting but no paper trails has an unexplained advantage for Bush of around +5% when comparing exit polls to actual results. In EVERY STATE that has paper audit trails on their EVoting, the exit poll results match the actual results reported within the margin of error. So, we have MATCHING RESULTS for exit polls vs. voting with audits vs. A 5% unexplained advantage for Bush without audits..... and thats NOT wierd HOW?

Blah blah blah...

Have in issue? Grab a tissue.

Its all political propoganda.

it's time to go back to using paper ballots instead of these newfangled contraptions

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Originally posted by Vlad Blah blah blah... Have in issue? Grab a tissue. Its all political propoganda.

Bush was friends withe the respective heads of the companies that manufactured these voting machines, NOT KERRY, so dont saw that "THIS IS POLITICS GOD DAMN IT - theres always illegal shit and lying going on behind closed doors for both parties". who comes off looking guilty? the one whos friends with the voting machine company, or Kerry? its not propaganda, its common sense. this issue WILL surface very soon and u WILL see an investigation come about.

Your must be ignorant if you didnt expect something like this to happen.

Im done in here.

no... trust me, im not ignorant lol ur calling the wrong person ignorant, but ill let that pass. ur saying "so what? its a 700 person town, and with 4000 votes, Kerry couldnt win"... heres what i say...

...u remember Office Space? where they make a program to steal from the company only CENTS per dollar that the company makes, which is millions, so the CENTS per dollar that they make would never be detected? only thing was... they made a mistake and overprogrammed it and made a lot more money per dollar, thus risking themselves getting caught..... apply it to this case. they program it into a voting machine, and maybe made a mistake, thus the town gave off 4000 votes, even tho the population was 600+. lets say they program the machines in Cleveland to give Bush 6 votes per hundred votes that were sposed to be given to Kerry. stuff like that is easy to program and could have well cost the election. im not being a sore loser about us losing the election, im just freaked out about the relationship between Bush and the computer ballot companies. NOT giving a damn is NOT an option.

i think that the point being made is that it can happen in future elections. it's not about being a sore loser, vlad.

it's kinda scary that some votes, regardless of whom they were cast for, are not counted, are lost, or are made up.

i knew someone was gonna start making up excuses. HAHAHAHA.

exactly my point^^^^... whether its done by Republicans or Democrats, and whether its 400 votes or 400,000 votes, i still find this pretty troubling.

But what about NAACP paying this dude with crack to make up false registrations. . . it goes on both sides.

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Originally posted by Busy Child i knew someone was gonna start making up excuses. HAHAHAHA.

no one's making any excuses for anything.

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Originally posted by Busy Child But what about NAACP paying this dude with crack to make up false registrations. . . it goes on both sides.

LOL nice... i actually wanna read this.

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Originally posted by Busy Child i knew someone was gonna start making up excuses. HAHAHAHA.

exactly..
4 more years, get over it..

apparently you failed to grasp this is supposed to be indicative of a larger trend, not an isolated incident.

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Originally posted by Vlad Bush won Ohio by 137,000 votes, those 4 thousand wouldnt help.

what bothers me is that the discrepancy between exit polling and eventual vote tally was automatically attributed to shitty exit polling. i do believe that it is most likely that the exit polling was flawed. at the same time, i think with the hindsight of how botched and partisan the actual vote counting was in 2000, the small possibility that some of the discrepancy arose through vote fraud definitely merits researching (especially keeping in mind how influential jeb bush and katherine harris were in the vote count).

if there were a paper trail, this idea could be looked into and subsequently dismissed with enough evidence to the contrary. but as it is, all we know is there is a discrepancy between exit polling and vote tally, not absolutely without a doubt which side of the equation was more skewed.

for related info and more the eloquenty argued point (in regards to florida in 2004), read this article (may have to watch 15 sec ad once and then have access for whole day):

http://salon.com/news/feature/2004/..._act/index.html

EDIT --- this is now on CNN, for all you CBS haters - Computers gave Bush 4300 votes in precinct of 650 people:::

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/05/voting.problems.ap/index.html

unfortunately CNN is the Commie News Network...and fox news rivals comedy central in terms of laughs

MSNBC owns all!

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Originally posted by decibel08 apparently you failed to grasp this is supposed to be indicative of a larger trend, not an isolated incident. what bothers me is that the discrepancy between exit polling and eventual vote tally was automatically attributed to shitty exit polling. i do believe that it is most likely that the exit polling was flawed. at the same time, i think with the hindsight of how botched and partisan the actual vote counting was in 2000, the small possibility that some of the discrepancy arose through vote fraud definitely merits researching (especially keeping in mind how influential jeb bush and katherine harris were in the vote count). if there were a paper trail, this idea could be looked into and subsequently dismissed with enough evidence to the contrary. but as it is, all we know is there is a discrepancy between exit polling and vote tally, not absolutely without a doubt which side of the equation was more skewed. for related info and more the eloquenty argued point (in regards to florida in 2004), read this article (may have to watch 15 sec ad once and then have access for whole day): http://salon.com/news/feature/2004/..._act/index.html EDIT --- this is now on CNN, for all you CBS haters - Computers gave Bush 4300 votes in precinct of 650 people::: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...s.ap/index.html

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Originally posted by verndogs unfortunately CNN is the Commie News Network...and fox news rivals comedy central in terms of laughs

look close and you'll see the story is from the associated press. and i assume you're joking about cnn.

here's the same story in another place

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...voting_problems

Re: Bush didnt win Ohio

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Originally posted by DJ Eco BLACKBOX VOTING, a non-profit coporation has released info stating that in Ohio, a town with no more than 700 registered voters, was reported to have given FOUR THOUSAND + votes to Bush. tthey suspect that the computers were easily hacked and set prior to election day to give that many votes to Bush. BLACK BOX VOTING company has reason to believe that this is just one in so many hundreds of incidents. since it is a non-profit organization, it needs to raise $50,000 to be able to do the research necessary in the computer voting machines, as well as for lawyers to bring it up to the government to be looked at..... read for urself.... www.blackboxvoting.org ....seems legit to me, which is kinda freaking me out. now we know the reason they didnt want print-outs so we culd see if the computer results were correct....

Sounds like bull shit too me. I am not a bush supporter by any means fyi

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...s.ap/index.html

it's all here.

Re: Re: Bush didnt win Ohio

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Originally posted by pyro264jb Sounds like bull shit too me. I am not a bush supporter by any means fyi

it could be.... in all seriousness, i want it to be false. i wanna know that we did all we could to investigate the matter and i wanna know that our president was fairly chosen. its not a matter of being a "sore loser" and having to "suck it up". its a matter of me wanting democracy back. if Kerry won and all this suspicion was pointing toward Kerry, i would still want an investigation. telling me to "suck it up" (not referring to you, pyro, dont worry) is just saying "who cares if theres a huge amount of voter fraud in the system, as long as MY candidate won bc of it". what u shuld be saying is "lets investigate it so we CAN prove that its false."

Bush = 1337 llama

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