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Posted by DJ Coleman on Nov-07-2004 04:54:

My ways on how to get started.

DJ Coleman's Basics on DJing

When i started, i started with the basics. If you go to http://www.fl-studio.com you can find a Music Production studio for about $50.00 then upgrade as you get better. When you get really good, and your sastified, go for something like Reason. I'm just now getting to Reason. FL Studio is deffiently my pick for Audio Creations etc. Its easy to control etc. Also cheap, but effective.

What do you need to get started djing at clubs?
What i use is very simple, yet very effective. I use a Stanton SMX-201 mixer. You can find it for about 80.00 on http://www.samash.com . That will get you started. All you need is two CD players (I use my Computer and my iPod, or i use my CD Player and my iPod).

You really don't need turntables...
More and more people are now towards cd decks etc. You can get more out of it. But if you do want to do turntables the best ones that are cheap is the Numark. You can get the package and it will incude your mixer.

You don't need tons of stuff...
You don't need like Effects and Signal Processors when you first start djing. Your going to waste your time.. why? Becuase you have to get good at one thing at a time. Once you get good at one thing, thats when you can get effects etc.

Want to get known?
This is my way on how to getting known first. First off it takes time. I got lucky by knowing people that told other people and so on. I suggest you go to http://www.thedjlist.com set up a user name and sign up for the DJ Rhealm thing. You can add your mixes, and biography, and links, and charts, events etc. Its a nice tool.
All you need from there is people to vote for you. Get a site, and post you link to The DJ List on there.

My advice on getting a record contract..
Just be paticent, it will happen. Try to get to know someone that has like a uncle or something in the record contract bussiness. The way I might get my contract is that I knew a guy that works for a record contract company. All you need is time. I'm also in a big school with almost 3k people.

Thats all for now. I will be editing as I get more info up!


Posted by on Nov-07-2004 04:57:

God help us!!!

QUIT posting.. your whoring everywhere...


Posted by beats and beeps on Nov-07-2004 05:22:

How can you adjust the pitch on an ipod?????


Posted by djkoolaide on Nov-07-2004 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
How can you adjust the pitch on an ipod?????


I'd also like to know


Posted by bjdesire on Nov-07-2004 05:32:

quote:
Originally posted by beats and beeps
How can you adjust the pitch on an ipod?????


haha im a newb and i was thinking this too while i was reading.


Posted by DJ Coleman on Nov-07-2004 06:26:

No you can't. But i'm buying a effect processor which is about 100 bux. It has all your main effects. When i find the link to it i'll put it on here.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Nov-07-2004 06:26:

yea who needs turntables, CD's will offer you everything


Posted by DJ Coleman on Nov-07-2004 06:30:

Yup thats for shure. But i'm going to my friends, and i'm going to mess around with his. He has some old ones =\.

PHP:


Posted by Vlad on Nov-07-2004 06:34:

How do you intent to beatmatch without a pitch?


Posted by djshan on Nov-07-2004 07:36:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
yea who needs turntables, CD's will offer you everything


what? what difference does it make between the two? the only difference probably is the format and the design, you cant loop on tt's. what else?


Posted by tu_face on Nov-08-2004 09:49:

Re: My ways on how to get started.

sorry if i sound like a shit, but i don't think any of this is particularly good advice for a beginner DJ.


quote:
Originally posted by DJ Coleman
DJ Coleman's Basics on DJing

When i started, i started with the basics. If you go to http://www.fl-studio.com you can find a Music Production studio for about $50.00 then upgrade as you get better. When you get really good, and your sastified, go for something like Reason. I'm just now getting to Reason. FL Studio is deffiently my pick for Audio Creations etc. Its easy to control etc. Also cheap, but effective.


firstly, this has nothing to do with DJing, everything to do with production. secondly, if you get FLstudio and are happy working with it, there is no reason to upgrade to reason. they both do very similar things, just in different ways.

quote:
What do you need to get started djing at clubs?
What i use is very simple, yet very effective. I use a Stanton SMX-201 mixer. You can find it for about 80.00 on http://www.samash.com . That will get you started. All you need is two CD players (I use my Computer and my iPod, or i use my CD Player and my iPod).


mixer - fair enough, but the rest of the equipment you state are about as useful as a straw fire blanket if you are serious about playing in clubs. ipod?? lol.. incidentally, an ipod costs only a small amount less than a cheap CD deck. don't waste your money. if you are truly looking to start DJing but dont want to shell out on the equipment just yet, have a look at some of the DJing progs like traktor or PCDJ, and forget about the mixer for the time being.

quote:
You really don't need turntables...
More and more people are now towards cd decks etc. You can get more out of it. But if you do want to do turntables the best ones that are cheap is the Numark. You can get the package and it will incude your mixer.


i dont see how you can get more out of it as a beginner using CD decks. on the contrary, once you have learnt the basics on vinyl you can easily transfer that to a cd deck, whereas it is not so easy going from cd decks to vinyl, as you have to learn the whole vinyl manipulation thing. if you are serious about playing in clubs, i would reccommend starting on vinyl, because in most clubs you will find a setup consisting of 2 turntables and 1 cd deck.

if you are buying turntables, don't get a package. they are rarely any good. for a beginner, a decent setup i would reccommend is 2 x numark tt200 + vestax vmc002 mixer (or the stanton one stated above). if you are going for cd decks, look at the numark axis9 or the pioneer cdj100.

quote:
You don't need tons of stuff...
You don't need like Effects and Signal Processors when you first start djing. Your going to waste your time.. why? Becuase you have to get good at one thing at a time. Once you get good at one thing, thats when you can get effects etc.


this is good advice

quote:
Want to get known?
This is my way on how to getting known first. First off it takes time. I got lucky by knowing people that told other people and so on. I suggest you go to http://www.thedjlist.com set up a user name and sign up for the DJ Rhealm thing. You can add your mixes, and biography, and links, and charts, events etc. Its a nice tool.
All you need from there is people to vote for you. Get a site, and post you link to The DJ List on there.


you are forgetting the most important people in your bid to make a DJ career for yourself. promoters. its all fine and dandy promoting yourself on the internet, but when it gets down to the nitty gritty there is nothing better than giving a promoter (or for that matter, anyone) your CD. remember, they arn't always looking for a new DJ, but sometimes you can make them want a new DJ just burn 100 promo CD's, dish them out to anyone who will have them, you never know who might end up with one! but always always always try and get them to promoters somehow.

quote:
My advice on getting a record contract..
Just be paticent, it will happen. Try to get to know someone that has like a uncle or something in the record contract bussiness. The way I might get my contract is that I knew a guy that works for a record contract company. All you need is time. I'm also in a big school with almost 3k people.


again, nothing to do with DJing, and still poor advice for a budding producer. it won't just happen, and do you know how difficult it is to get a friend with an uncle who works at in-tec?

what you actually need for this, is skill, talent, persistance and luck. again its all about bombing people with CD's, particularly a label's A&R dept. get your tracks to as many DJ's as possible, as plays from a DJ count for a lot in terms of getting a label to sign you. but enough of this bit, this is the DJ forum don't you know


Posted by jdat on Nov-08-2004 14:29:

and where exactly can we hear one of your precious sets


Posted by dj jasonF on Nov-08-2004 14:31:

haha someone shoot him for his advice... if i was just starting out looking at this post,,, damn....... dont even wanna think about it...
most of what you said is wrong dude...


Posted by DannyO on Nov-08-2004 15:33:

This needs to be locked, this is bad advice, I know your new to all this, but please think before you post something like this, also when its working again, use the search button for any questions you have, as being new most of your questions will already of been asked and answered and will be somewhere in the TA archives, we're all willing to help here, but not with posts like this.

**Posted again, as first was lost in harddrive crash**


Posted by wiregen on Nov-08-2004 15:49:

+1 I agree with DannyO

I dont want to type my rants about your tips. It's a waste of time...

Lock this shit up.


Posted by Wraith on Nov-08-2004 16:00:

I agree. Your tips aren't that helpful.


Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-08-2004 16:54:

Re: My ways on how to get started.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Coleman
I'm also in a big school with almost 3k people.




great advice.




Posted by squirrelly on Nov-08-2004 17:47:

Please tell me this is a joke?


Posted by Exodus17 on Nov-08-2004 17:51:

Re: My ways on how to get started.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Coleman

You really don't need turntables...


not to be rude or anything but i suppose you dont need common sense either?


yeah you can get away with playing out Cds in some places like school dances and house parties but as a senior in high school myself i can tell you firsthand that you can get alot more out of the crowd if they see you spinning vinyl, otherwise you're just the guy playing the music behind the little box

as far as using your computer and an Ipod?

yeah you can use a program like Mixvibes for example on your computer but there are all sorts of things that can go wrong
*especially when playing out with your computer/laptop* (unless you've put loads of money into it with memory upgrades and you dont use it for anything other than playing out)


also, not everyone may like the music you're playing(unless you play a bit of everything) but people can appreciate the fact that you're playing on turntables rather than just clicking around or pressing buttons - makes it more interesting


Posted by anth_on_e on Nov-08-2004 19:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jdat
and where exactly can we hear one of your precious sets


www.dj-coleman.com ---> he even has his own website with domain name lol


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-08-2004 21:00:

Re: Re: My ways on how to get started.

quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
you are forgetting the most important people in your bid to make a DJ career for yourself. promoters. its all fine and dandy promoting yourself on the internet, but when it gets down to the nitty gritty there is nothing better than giving a promoter (or for that matter, anyone) your CD. remember, they arn't always looking for a new DJ, but sometimes you can make them want a new DJ just burn 100 promo CD's, dish them out to anyone who will have them, you never know who might end up with one! but always always always try and get them to promoters somehow.


bingo, you find one promotor who has ANY interest in you, as long as u follow it up, doors open....


Posted by djshan on Nov-09-2004 03:05:

i still dont understand why some people here think vinyl is important for djing. ask urself this question: wats more important? music or records?


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-09-2004 03:13:

vinyl is great, if u start with vinyl, mixing with cds becomes much easier because u get a strong base in mixing and beatmatching.. i dunno i love vinyl, fiddling with records was one thing which attracted me to djing when i was younger...its a preference tho.. but people who spin cds are geberally mixing ubought music.. do u want dance to die? didnt think so.. buy music in some form before spinning it live..


Posted by D Dubya on Nov-09-2004 03:50:

coleman, i have to give it to you, those tracks you produced aren't that bad. Seriously. Some people here gave you a lot of shit about them, but you're on the way to a good start.

Now. stick to producing. Obviously you don't really know your elbow from your asshole when it comes to DJing and that is fine, but don't offer up newbies advice like this. This is bad.

So, keep up the good work on producing, learn how to DJ and what you need by reading what other people post in here and everything should be all set.


Posted by Trance Nutter on Nov-09-2004 04:04:

Re: My ways on how to get started.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Coleman
I'm also in a big school with almost 3k people.


Wow, what a great piece of advice! I'm in a uni with 25k people (around 5 k on my campus alone), Using that theory i should have a gig this weekend no problems!

But instead I'll be sitting around on my elbow (see Dirk W's post), cos it doesn't matter a bit how many people you go to school/uni with, its how many promoters you force your promo onto, same as producing. If you want a gig, this is the way to do it.


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