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Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-09-2004 17:46:

Question Merzbow - Merzbox

This is probably a sure fire way to start a new thread that'll get no replies, but nevertheless:

http://www.discogs.com/release/100630

Can anybody review some of the CDs in it or the box as a whole? Been pondering on exploring noise a bit further, and Merzbow seems to be a good place to start.


Posted by Sjagga on Nov-09-2004 18:11:

haven't got a clue about any of those


Posted by Dark Apostle on Nov-09-2004 19:02:

As far as I have heard Merzbow creations (you can hardly call em productions ),2 or 3, they weren't bad at all, as far as Noise goes it is very atmospheric and it gave me a feeling of something lurking waiting to jump at you. It does get quite boring for me after 3 tracks.
I'd check out Ah Cama-Sotz & Iszoloscope - Camanecroszcope, it's more Industrial orientated and has a heavy ambient feeling to it, much more interesting imo.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-09-2004 19:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Dark Apostle
I'd check out Ah Cama-Sotz & Iszoloscope - Camanecroszcope, it's more Industrial orientated and has a heavy ambient feeling to it, much more interesting imo.


Cool, cheers for the info. I've been wanting to check out his Silent Recs. release with PGR (Kim Cascone) and Asmus Tietchens, but can't seem to find it :/ I guess those will give me somewhat of a clue what's on it though.


Posted by Dark Apostle on Nov-09-2004 19:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Cool, cheers for the info.


Musical Deviant TA's need to support eachother


Posted by Noisician on Nov-09-2004 19:43:

lol, good luck finding that box for less than 450$ anywhere

in general, merzbow's releases are often hit or miss for me. he's got lots of good stuff, and also huge piles of boring crap in his discography. but for a quick start, i personally recommend listening to (if you're ever able to find 'em, of course)

the science of disecting society, which he produced together with texas' most famous noise guru richard ramirez.
venereology, one of his harshest works to this date.
pulse demon, very atmospheric and haaaarsh.
1930, classic merzbow. very good.
"sha mo 3000" (unfortunately, not on discogs yet)
dharma, essential release, imo.
merzzow


but to be completely honest, there are a lot of noise artists out there that are far better and more talented than merzbow. he is the one who started the whole thing (basically), but the greatest he ain't.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-09-2004 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Noisician
lol, good luck finding that box for less than 450$ anywhere


Yea, cheapest I found it for new was 1100$

quote:


in general, merzbow's releases are often hit or miss for me. he's got lots of good stuff, and also huge piles of boring crap. for a quick start, i personally recommend listening to (if you're ever able to find 'em, of course)

the science of disecting society, which he produced together with texas' most famous noise guru richard ramirez.
venereology, one of his harshest works to this date.
pulse demon, very atmospheric and haaaarsh.
1930, classic merzbow. very good.
"sha mo 3000" (unfortunately, not on discogs yet)
dharma, essential release, imo.
merzzow



I noticed Merzzow in a shop here the other day, will check it. Cheers for the recommendations

quote:


but to be completely honest, there are a lot of noise artists out there that are far better and more talented than merzbow. he is the one who started the whole thing (basically), but the greatest he ain't.


Some links/samples/namedropping?


Posted by Dark Apostle on Nov-09-2004 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Noisician
[color=white]lol, good luck finding that box for less than 450$ anywhere


I've heard alot of people complain about it, I couldn't throw so much money on any artist and I find Merzbow a bit to monotone to actually listen to a whole record of him.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-09-2004 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Dark Apostle
I've heard alot of people complain about it, I couldn't throw so much money on any artist and I find Merzbow a bit to monotone to actually listen to a whole record of him.


Agreed, releasing 50 CDs of noise at once is just a wee bit overambitious. While you do get a bunch of other exclusive stuff in the box, like a medallion, t-shirt, a specially designed coin etc. etc., it's still not enough for me to spend several hundred $ on.


Posted by Dark Apostle on Nov-09-2004 20:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Agreed, releasing 50 CDs of noise at once is just a wee bit overambitious. While you do get a bunch of other exclusive stuff in the box, like a medallion, t-shirt, a specially designed coin etc. etc., it's still not enough for me to spend several hundred $ on.


Well it is only 9 bucks per CD and you get the little gadgets for free


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-09-2004 20:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Dark Apostle
Well it is only 9 bucks per CD and you get the little gadgets for free


Well that's used. Like I said, new it'll cost ya at least 1K.


Posted by Dark Apostle on Nov-09-2004 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Well that's used. Like I said, new it'll cost ya at least 1K.


Wow...if you want to explore noise I'd start with something cheaper. Even if I had that much money, I wouldn't throw it away on such a thing


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-09-2004 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Dark Apostle
Wow...if you want to explore noise I'd start with something cheaper. Even if I had that much money, I wouldn't throw it away on such a thing


Hehe, nope, wasn't planning on buying it either. Just that box spans almost his entire career, so some reviews of it would be helpful.


Posted by Noisician on Nov-10-2004 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Some links/samples/namedropping?


can't help you with the samples at the moment (i'm gonna have to make them first), but here are some of the people who, imo, produce noise music of the highest quality and variety:

dominick fernow a.k.a. prurient (most underrated producer in my eyes)
kevin novak a.k.a. tactical eradication function
chris goudreau a.k.a. sickness
alan bloor a.k.a. knurl
jonathan silpayamanant a.k.a. noiseman433
kei yokota a.k.a. outermost
yamazaki takushi a.k.a. masonna
kohei nakagawa a.k.a. guilty connector
yasutoshi yoshida a.k.a. government alpha
takamitsu sato a.k.a. gasolineman
kimihide kusafuka a.k.a. k2
hiroshi hasegawa a.k.a. astro
akihiro shimizu a.k.a. thirdorgan
kazuyuki kishino a.k.a. kk null
dean glaister a.k.a. romance
jon borges a.k.a. pedestrian deposit
bob sato a.k.a. xome
chris mcdonald a.k.a. skm-etr
tim oliveira a.k.a. stimbox
scott hull a.k.a. japanese torture comedy hour
andrew powell a.k.a. lackthrow
gordon ashworth a.k.a. oscillating innards
bryan gilroy a.k.a. viodre
phil blankenship a.k.a. the cherry point
pierre-marc tremblay a.k.a. �mes sanglantes
peter keller a.k.a. bacillus
andrew o'sullivan a.k.a. goat

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Agreed, releasing 50 CDs of noise at once is just a wee bit overambitious.


well, that's merzbow for ya, alright. what else is there to expect from a superstar with an ego the size of his native japan? i mean... ffs, just look at this page (scroll down a bit), for example. if that doesn't make him look like a supercilious arse, i don't know what will.


Posted by TwoPlow on Nov-11-2004 00:41:

If there was something I never expected to see on TA, it's probably a thread about Merzbow.

I've heard Merzzow, but not much else. I guess it's a pretty good example. I don't really get noise as a genre, so I haven't looked into it much. Powernoise/power electronics/whatever you call it is quite a bit more towards my liking.


Posted by Lira on Nov-11-2004 01:54:

Well, his letter was polite


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-11-2004 13:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Noisician


well, that's merzbow for ya, alright. what else is there to expect from a superstar with an ego the size of his native japan? i mean... ffs, just look at this page (scroll down a bit), for example. if that doesn't make him look like a supercilious arse, i don't know what will.


LOL, what a fucking diva. Cheers for the recommendations, I'll do some checking.

quote:
Originally posted by TwoPlow
If there was something I never expected to see on TA, it's probably a thread about Merzbow.


I was pretty sure this was bound to end up as a 0-reply thread too. Glad I was wrong


Posted by denys envy on Nov-11-2004 17:00:

ok i'm a n00b to noise... someone explain more


Posted by Lira on Nov-11-2004 19:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Aristronica
ok i'm a n00b to noise... someone explain more

There are quite a few threads about the genre (or that were hijacked by a discussion on it ), which are very interesting.

Other than that, google "Merzbow", this is not really accurate, but you could say he's to noise what LTJ Bukem is to atmospheric drum'n'bass. Here's a good start:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Merzbow



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