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Posted by FuzzyGreen on Nov-09-2004 22:53:

What to do when playing after a House DJ???

So you're playing a gig and the opener DJ is playing house for two hours before your set, do you:

A. Fade out his record and Fade in your track
B. Beatmatch into his slow-ass house track and try to slowly speed it up
C. Powerdown his record and rudly throw his record out into the audience. (pompus/ostentatious Oakenfold style)
D. Let his track play out until the end and leave an ugly silence before slaming in with an epic opener
E. Take the time to find a condom
F. Walk right over and you pound her
G. Slap the house DJ silly with your 12"


Posted by Freak on Nov-09-2004 23:08:

I have to do this all the time- suddenly change styles

Either power down (bit boring) then have a quiet intro/build up into the trancey stuff.
Or have some sort of middle ground to bridge between them (something energetic like deepest blue off the top of my head is what i would play)

Picth can be changed subtley quite a large % without beiong noticed much on the floor if you do it right...so it can be mixed in easy enough.
Its more the choice of tunes thats important. If the opener is agreeable then they can adjust the last tracks of their set accordingly to make it smoother. House is a large spectrum, and all sorts can be got away with.

p.s- if its a club setting, getting the lighting guy to black it out as you power down the house tune and bring in a nice intro into a trance tune will add 100x to the effect.

p.p.s- Im a house music nut and play it more than any other style so sod the trance and keep playing house all night (unbiased opinion honest )


Posted by FuzzyGreen on Nov-09-2004 23:16:

Yeah I'm just joking, I'll be playing progressive house/trance. No epic shite.


Posted by Cheetah86 on Nov-09-2004 23:51:

Maybe play a breaks track to break it up a little.(No pun intended) The tempo most breaks tracks are at(at least in my experience) are between house and trance. You might want to speed the house up a little into the breaks speed, just to give it a little boost but not making the pitch fader go up all the way, then slow your music down to the breaks speed for whenever you get into what you wantto play.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Nov-10-2004 01:33:

I don't think its that big of a deal... just have your tune ready, and just fade out his as its about to end, and start yours up. This will get everyones attention to the "shift change" and go from there. Theres no need to have to find a track to match up a slow house track, if your playing faster progressive or trance.


Posted by benoitfan on Nov-10-2004 01:58:

one thing I like to do though, is carry on what the other DJ has built and then make a sudden change; what I mean is, I have trance, house, techno records, and I guess every DJ has at least *some* records that don't belong to his main genre, or some remix etc. What I do is I follow what he's doin' (for instance if he was playing house I'd continue playing house) and then stop after a while and give the crowd something different. That way you're not being rude to the other DJ etc


Posted by montana on Nov-10-2004 02:14:

i recommend to find slow trance records, or find records that sound good even pitched down to +5, or find some house records that you like


Posted by Vlad on Nov-10-2004 04:18:

If you got skill, do a scratch with the house track, pitch it up a bit and mix into it.


Posted by tylerc on Nov-10-2004 04:46:

i dont see why a powerdown would be considered 'rude.' i would think that a house dj would know that there is usually a pretty big gap in the bpm of house and trance.

i would just do a powerdown and make sure the first tune you play had a pretty quick intro. none of that 2 minute atmosperics before any semblance of a beat drops.


Posted by djxtension on Nov-10-2004 08:11:

If you are the not the first dj playing, i would make sure i got there about an hour early or so, just to catch the vibe going on in the venue.

Listen to the other dj, what he/she plays, and try to go on from that.
You can learn a lot by just watching/listening to other dj's. Use that knowledge to start your set.

If you see the crowd is really digging house, you could mix on with it for a while, slowly moving on to trance.

If the crowd is clearly getting bored of it, switch the turntable off, and start a banging trance/techno/hardhouse/whateveryouplay set.

And why not ask the previous if it's ok to stop his/her last record? Some dj's really don't like it when the next dj just walks in and kills their set.

Just my 2 cents.


Posted by dj douglas on Nov-11-2004 21:13:

definitly blend in some of your slower stuff and build from there(not trying to be rude but u should have this type of music on hand, your a dj your job is to find all types of music in the genre you play and build the set).

plus if your set is bulit up correclty the people listening will notice and that a good thing.


Posted by DJ_Ikronix on Nov-11-2004 21:21:

H. Get the MC on the mic (or do it yourself) and wax poetic while bringing down the volume on the house track. Then kuvva-kuvva the trance song in (assuming it starts with a kick ).

But maybe that's just me.


Posted by djdk on Nov-11-2004 21:56:

surely if the DJ before you knows that your gonna be playing trance then he/she will play up a bit towards the end of their set so that you kinda meet in the middle if you know what im on about.


Posted by DJ_Ikronix on Nov-11-2004 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
surely if the DJ before you knows that your gonna be playing trance then he/she will play up a bit towards the end of their set so that you kinda meet in the middle if you know what im on about.


Hopefully. Doesn't always happen though.

At which point you DEFINITELY want to get up on the mic.

"Hey, big thanks to DJ Amtrak over there, now I'll look good no matter what happens."


Posted by T-Soma on Nov-12-2004 05:48:

On the subject... lol kinda, what are some good tracks that are between 130 and 140 these would go nicely in mixing between house and trance


Posted by Trance Nutter on Nov-12-2004 05:52:

I would have thought playing some ProgTrance would go okay flow and bpmwise, which you can then build up to trance.
Suggestion - Tilt - World Doesn't know


Posted by skip on Nov-12-2004 11:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Freak
p.s- if its a club setting, getting the lighting guy to black it out as you power down the house tune and bring in a nice intro into a trance tune will add 100x to the effect.




for me this sounds definitely best. that is if the house dj is cool with you powering down his last track at the end.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Nov-12-2004 12:13:

I usually go with breaks and work into trance. Breaks are a very good middle ground with lots of energy and can also be played at varying speeds to good effect.
I love using Zero Emit/Collect (Renni Pilgrem version) for this purpose.

The other thing I like doing if I am going to change the vibe is fade out the other guys record as it gets to the end, turn to him and applaud him so that the dancefloor follows. Let him know that I appreciate what he did and get the crowd to do the same. Then after that they will be ready for a new vibe. It's like drawing a line under something.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by tu_face on Nov-12-2004 16:09:

play some chunky-ass prog house! that goes nicely into some prog trance, and then away you go. if there is a big bpm difference (or at least too big to mix and make it sound good) kill the last record once its pretty much finished (a nice break trick works wonders) and judge the time (approx 4 beats) until you kick in your track from the start.

don't fade the last track out, it sounds shite unless its in a bit with no beat.


Posted by Vlad on Nov-12-2004 19:53:

Heres a suggestion, check out some of Marco V's tracklists and look a the tracks he opens up with. They are usually on that border of Progressive/Tech House/Trance.


Posted by Cosmic Realm on Nov-12-2004 20:01:

well sence im a breakbeat DJ as well i would say play some breaks as well but if your stickly Trance, go with some Way Out West, like the WOW remix of Suburban Train... or For An Angel...


Posted by svens_bath on Nov-16-2004 22:20:

imo the best way to change shifts is to mix into the other guys record with one of your own. something quite minimal, a connecter track. maybe prog housey or breaky, and then play your next tune with a really floaty breakdown, mixing it in so that the breakdown somes straight in after the last tune. so that basically that will be your first tune that people will notice..and be your arrival.

fading out sounds shit.



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