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Posted by Peter K on Nov-10-2004 10:32:

Nobody ruins soccer like Seven

A few years ago Channel Seven bought the rights to televise live games of the NSL and to present a weekly highlights package.
They didn't show ONE live game during the league stage of the season, and their highlights show was broadcast at midnight. The network's high positioned directors also held a celebration dinner with 2 AFL chiefs after Australia's 3-0 loss in the crunch game against Uruguay in 2001.

I just wanted to make everyone aware of what ****s Channel Seven are and what extents they went to to bury the beautiful game. They paid 2 million dollars to SA ensure the death of soccer in Australia which they nearly succeeded in doing, to promote AFL.

This thought/issue came into my mind with the recent passing of Johnny Warren, who was incensed at the whole thing when it happened. Please feel free to share your views on this.

Posted by RobbieBegic on Nov-10-2004 10:44:

I agree with you, they are ****s allright..

Posted by NiNo LoCo on Nov-10-2004 11:23:

I totally agree with you.

The commentators where shit, nothing like the true SBS commentators
if you want the best sport in the world to succeed in Australia you dont let channel 7 handle it.

Posted by Wasted_Space on Nov-10-2004 11:47:

Soccer in Australia is generally fucked up. Its a total shame, wish it were different.

Posted by A.J. on Nov-10-2004 11:57:

Well that's why they are trying to start something fresh, something that will hopefully succeed - A-League

Support Australian Soccer!!!

Posted by AussieTrance on Nov-10-2004 12:30:

Nobody ruins tv like seven.

Oh, and soccer will never be popular in Australia - the majority of Australians find it dead boring tbh.

Posted by tathi on Nov-10-2004 13:09:

Posted by one.tjc on Nov-10-2004 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by AussieTrance
Nobody ruins tv like seven.

Oh, and soccer will never be popular in Australia - the majority of Australians find it dead boring tbh.

it was popular when japan hosted world cup - as was convienient time zones etc & everyone got into it. This shows that maybe its just boring watching aussies play it..

but since then its completely dropped off the radar

Posted by batemanscott on Nov-10-2004 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by AussieTrance
Nobody ruins tv like seven.

Oh, and soccer will never be popular in Australia - the majority of Australians find it dead boring tbh.

I dont know how u figure that one?? have a look at when world cup is on, it's absolutelty mayhem in all our pubs cafes etc.

Australians dont embrace soccer because it doesnt get the exposure that afl / nrl gets. Because we do so well in the other two codes we also tend to promote them more ( like swimming @ olympics )

I could never endure a whole game of afl or nrl but love to watch soccer and most non victorians i have spoken to agree.

Posted by PDT on Nov-10-2004 20:51:

Yes, soccer is the most played sport in Australia (but dont tell any of the commercial networks that because they too will fuck shit up like 7 did). The new A-League is the best thing that could have happened to soccer in this country and finally we make a very good move to join our Asian neighbours with their leagues and this opens the door to so much more. Soccer has only been a recent success in the Asian nations and look how well its taken off. We can only be smart enough to jump on their bandwagon and share the success and even talent.

Its actually a really exciting time and my mates and i will be in full support of the new league. We're finally heading back to games!

EDIT: R.I.P Johnny Warren.

Posted by tachyon on Nov-10-2004 21:07:

...even the print media coverage doesnt give soccer australia much help, it amazes me how footy managed to squeeze 2-3 pages of BS in the papers, way after the season is finished, and even to cut down the soccer coverage during world cup just to milk out a few meaningless footy 'commentary'...

hopefully the A-league will take soccer ahead this time..

Posted by fLipp on Nov-10-2004 21:52:

haha commentators.
Reminds me of the simpsons ep where Soccer comes to Springfield.

Kent Brockman: Halfback passes to the center. Back to the wing. Back to the center. Center holds it. Holds it. uhh.. Holds it.

Mexican announcer: Halfback passes to center! Back to wing! Back to center! Center holds it! Holds it!! HOLDS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah god work is boring.

Posted by AussieTrance on Nov-10-2004 21:53:

Yeah, sorry guys, should've been more to the point.

We dont have the money that most other Countries have to offer players, hence why any decent players we produce head overseas.

AFL/NRL/NRU is well and truely established in Australia, and remember, we only have roughly 21-22 million people in this country.

And hell, even I play it, when I get the chance.. but ill be buggered if I can sit down and watch a match; either on the tv or at an actual game - just doesnt have the excitement that AFL has imo. (Why do you think the Poms always chant?: ) - they're bored )

Posted by rez on Nov-10-2004 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by one.tjc
This shows that maybe its just boring watching aussies play it..

So true.

Each to their own. If you find Soccer boring then thats your opinion (although idiotic )... This country doesn't consist of only true blue aussies who find soccer deadset boring. There are plenty of people here who are passionate about soccer, the gripe is that of major networks attempting to kill off the sport to promote AFL.

Now I'm not saying I'm against AFL, I do enjoy it at times just like I enjoy Soccer. One sport shouldn't be ruled out to promote the other. AFL is confined to Australia, whereas soccer is a global sport. Why limit a media influenced country to Aussie sports.

Posted by tubby on Nov-10-2004 22:38:

Channel 7 is just a poor choice for any sport. Why was channel 9/10 able to outbid for the AFL? cos they had the expertise to add more value to the product. Channel 7 screwed the rugby world cup right up, insisting on putting an hour of schoolboy humour on every night before showing the games after midnight. Even with the world cup as a lead-in, they couldn't turn super 12 into a product worth showing.

australian football just needs some stability for now. Starting with new franchises is a great idea, it eliminates the need to be of a particular ethnic group to feel welcome at most clubs. hopefully it will also mean I can follow one local team for more than a few seasons before they get dropped to state league or dissappear altogether.
The standard of local football isn't that bad, maybe comparable to the english 2nd division, which is still very watchable. It's the publicity and hype that it is failing to generate. having such a long break between top level seasons, combined with the lack of any free to air coverage of the premier league, is going to require a huge campaign before the a-league starts to generate interest.

Posted by PDT on Nov-10-2004 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by tubby
Channel 7 is just a poor choice for any sport. Why was channel 9/10 able to outbid for the AFL? cos they had the expertise to add more value to the product.

I agree with everything you've said but the reason why chan 9/10 were able to outbid was because they also teamed up with Fox Sports (pay tv). Chan 7 simply could not afford to bid anymore and as such they lost and thought to themselves, "we have the olympics...we'll cash in on the advertising and show less than a third of the competing events..."

Idiots.

Posted by stamper on Nov-11-2004 00:22:

Channel 7 =

I'm glad Channel 9 & 10 are kicking their arse in the ratings.

Posted by nicknack on Nov-11-2004 00:56:

i used to work at channel 7 in IT, you wouldnt believe the amount of absolute fuckin pricks that work there. Thank god i am gone now *phew* . but yeh i agree with you they fucked up the game so much. I think the NSL will be alot stronger with less teams actually, i mean look at scotland, 10 teams and going strong

Posted by tubby on Nov-11-2004 01:55:

scotland going strong? you seen their results lately?
at least rangers beat celtic last night, that's about the only good thing that's happened in scottish football in recent years.
I thin kthe 1 city 1 team format can only be a good thing though.

Posted by nicknack on Nov-11-2004 02:11:

quote:
Originally posted by tubby
scotland going strong? you seen their results lately?
at least rangers beat celtic last night, that's about the only good thing that's happened in scottish football in recent years.
I thin kthe 1 city 1 team format can only be a good thing though.

the scotland LEAGUE, not scotland, scotland are shit as. But at least there league gets a decent attendance. I wouldnt mind having rangers and celtic in the aussie league ;D

Posted by Xavier on Nov-11-2004 02:25:

I hate Channel seven too.

If theres anything I hate its breaking the golden rule of football broadcasting, and its putting a commercial break, when a match is playing.

What pissed me off, especially the 2nd leg against Uruguay is that, the situation was very serious, yet they had the balls to drop in a commercial break on every goal kick.

They've always done it, its a rule never to be a broken no matter what in any circumstances.

I can only accept commercial breaks at half time though.

Posted by Peter K on Nov-11-2004 02:27:

As much as I want to see the A-League thrive, I don't think I will ever be as passionate about it as I was with the NSL and my beloved South Melbourne, the team I've been watching since 1992. Some great memories at Middle Park Stadium/Bob Jane Stadium and some good attacking football was played. The standard of football really wasn't as bad as everyone says it was..

Posted by nicknack on Nov-11-2004 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Peter K
As much as I want to see the A-League thrive, I don't think I will ever be as passionate about it as I was with the NSL and my beloved South Melbourne, the team I've been watching since 1992. Some great memories at Middle Park Stadium/Bob Jane Stadium and some good attacking football was played. The standard of football really wasn't as bad as everyone says it was..

standard of football was not bad in the NSL. But cutting the amount of teams down to 10 i think is going to get all the talent from 15-20 or so teams into 10 , which will be good for the standard.

should be interesting, i am going to try my hardest to support the sydney team

Posted by PDT on Nov-11-2004 02:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Peter K
As much as I want to see the A-League thrive, I don't think I will ever be as passionate about it as I was with the NSL and my beloved South Melbourne, the team I've been watching since 1992. Some great memories at Middle Park Stadium/Bob Jane Stadium and some good attacking football was played. The standard of football really wasn't as bad as everyone says it was..

Oh so true! Middle park was an institution to say the least...ah the memories...glad there are people who share the passion

Posted by Paulie on Nov-11-2004 07:16:

There waws no ground that held the passion the love of a team than that of middle park. In fact if you look at the decline of nsl it started with souths move from middle park to bob jane, in which dissulusioned many fans. Cant wait for Vic premier league tho