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Do producers need to know play instruments"?

I got some questions to discuss...

I read on bonaimusic.nu forums Airwave can play lots of instruments, surely this help him to produce diverse tunes in so many aliases, do you agree"?
I ve read too a Dave Clarke interview where he talks about himself: he doesnt know play any instruments, his productions are based in "trial-error" till he gets a song.

- Im not comparing both producers, but do you think people that dont play instruments can produce a classic or anthem"?
Is techno easy to produce cus there are not big strings and chord scales"?
- What good producers plays anything"?
- Does Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk, Armin, Ferry, M.i.k.e, play keyboards for example'?
- And the progressive trance/house, maybe the're a lots of drums players uh'? (maybe Tilt dudes, I'm curious about this one)
I know James Holden play guitar, not sure about Oakenfold...

Comments"?

Good question. I don't know the answers but I would love to find out.

im sure the better producers, know music theory, and can play at least a keyboard. which is obvious, unless they are getting help. and im sure most of the better ones could learn just about any insturment just a few trials.


i would love to see sasha all coked up playin on a grand piano, that would make my day.

PvD can play keyboard & guitar

Most producers play instruments it just goes hand in hand. Producing can be called playing an instrument too, that instrument being the studio.

Yes!!! Very important, if you know how to play instruments your going to have a better start, and a better knownledge of how things work. I started with the paino then i went to the drums. Paino got me to learn how to read music, and the drums taught me rhythm. If you put them together you know how to make a nice Trance song .

But you don't have to be a instrument player to produce music, but its best if you do play one.

I guarantee that BT plays guitar and piano, if not many other instruments. His classical knowledge shows in the quality of his production work. Sheer genius.

it definately helps to have a background in music theory when producing.. to know what notes sound good together.. harmonics etc.. yhou can alwayhs play it by ear. but knowing hteory and how to play instruments.. gives you a great advantage... after all.. trance is music

to answer the question.. alot of producers dont use music theory when they compile a production.. some tracks its more evident than others.. im not going ot pick and choose but its definately true..

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer I guarantee that BT plays guitar and piano, if not many other instruments. His classical knowledge shows in the quality of his production work. Sheer genius.

Yeah, BT led me into listening to EDM. He's classically trained and went to Berklee for music in Boston, though he dropped out due to some professional opportunities that came up. It's up there with Juliard for tops for music in the U.S. For other producers, there are different ways to go about creating music, so some is trial and error and others know how to play numerous instruments. It really depends on the style, but you can produce some EDM songs with more technolgical than musical background, like what TTA calls "McProg" though I like some of it.

With the computer software that is out there, it is certainly not necessary to learn how to play instruments, but if you know how it certainly helps A LOT.

Mr Sam can play ... nothing.

I can't even read notes

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 i would love to see sasha all coked up playin on a grand piano, that would make my day.

I second that!

armin knows only the basics for his tune keeying
we asked him to play the piano solo from communication and he said the couldnt

Junkie XL...

I've seen him strapped to a guitar in some pictures with his live band.

i have seen jonathan peters rocking out on the oxygen 8 at spirit.

Ive seen PVD play a keyboard live (time of our lives) @ godskitchen

if you know how to play an instrument there is a huge advantage when you start but a lot of people don't phrase it right.

if you can physically play an instrument it usually means you have a learned sense of musical theory. However that is not always the case, most people teach themselves guitar and know nothing about musical theory.

you can study musical theory out of a book and understand as much as someone does that has been playing for 15years, you just don't physically have the motor skills. A lot of people don't know that.

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Originally posted by Toufas armin knows only the basics for his tune keeying we asked him to play the piano solo from communication and he said the couldnt

oh my god.
Im not a producer, and I dont know how to read notes, but I know how to play tracks such as lethal industry, and traffic, and i dont even own a keyboard(a friend of mine has one)

but to not know how to play YOUR tracks, that is just sad
I wonder how many producers are like Armin.
I really like Armin's tracks and I have nothing against him.

Rank 1 is such a good example. One of the guys has got a classical background (plays piano, did a high musicaleducation) and the other one is a dj. Perfect combination.

As far as well, my fave's DuMonde, they can't play shit. Jam X is a dj, De Leon a lighttechnician, but they don't play instruments or have a musical background. I think a lot of that inconvenience can be helped with the productiontools, software and gear that got developed right now.

I think Its a shame that most Dj's don't play live from synth/midi keyboards at all the big events. I'm sure Tiesto can't play live, NU-NRG seem to be really good at it, mixing and playing live at the same time.

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Originally posted by Toufas armin knows only the basics for his tune keeying we asked him to play the piano solo from communication and he said the couldnt

I seriously don't believe that, i was only messing around with a keyboard a few days ago trying to play that from scratch (and i cant even play keyboard) and it was simple. I'm sure Armin would remember what notes he used in that track!
Look at his bio, he had a lot of help with producing from an early age;
Jean Michel Jarre as a major influence, as well as Dutch producer Ben Liebrand, who later mentored him in his mixing and producing, Armin was soon cracking out consistently stand-out tunes that graced compilations across the globe, and his dj bookings were looking pretty healthy to boot.

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Originally posted by yogi bear oh my god. Im not a producer, and I dont know how to read notes, but I know how to play tracks such as lethal industry, and traffic, and i dont even own a keyboard(a friend of mine has one) but to not know how to play YOUR tracks, that is just sad I wonder how many producers are like Armin. I really like Armin's tracks and I have nothing against him.

I agree, thats a bit strange, you drop a keyboard to a producer and ask a tune and the man says: "I cant play this..."
So play one of your own tunes...
"Cant too.."

I have a accoustic guitar and like try some riffs...
but learn scales are a bit hard..


by the way...

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i would love to see sasha all coked up playin on a grand piano, that would make my day

good

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 i would love to see sasha all coked up playin on a grand piano, that would make my day.

Whats coke got to do with anyting?
Why wouldn't you just like to see him play a grand piano anyway, without coke?
How do you know he'd even take coke anyway?

Well for one thing.. it'd be great if you used ur own composed samples to make ur tracks

That way no one can say "techno is computer generated music!"

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