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Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Nov-12-2004 03:13:

Which Digital Camera Do you Own? Recommendations for SLRs?

Any input on good digital cameras that you own and would recommend is appreciated. Specifically, I'm looking at the single lens reflex digital cameras (ie Nikon D100 Sony; Cyber Shot DSC F717).

Thx,
Dave


Posted by malek on Nov-12-2004 03:48:

I had the Sony F717, decent camera, actually pretty good if you can still buy it, maybe the best Point and shoot you can find on the market for its price. Its a bit cumbersome, but it has an amazing lense.

I also have the Canon Digital Rebel 300D, excellent camera too, the lense is ok, if you know a place in your town where you can rent lenses for cheap then you're all set.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Nov-12-2004 04:03:

www.dpreview.com They have lots of reviews and VERY in depth, more than any of us here could probably tell you.

Personally
We use a Canon 20D at work, thing is amazing. Best part about the canons is that their digital and 35mm lenses are all interchangeable. We also have a Nikon D100 SLR. It is good as well but not as good as the Canon.

I was talking to this girl at my girls sisters wedding and she just bought a Rebel SLR which she said she loves. That is more of an entry level SLR at only around $900 or so but has received some good marks.

These are your typical medium to higher level digital SLR's. There are some outrageous ones out there but I think Canon is the best under $2500.


Good Luck!


Posted by Clovis on Nov-12-2004 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
www.dpreview.com They have lots of reviews and VERY in depth, more than any of us here could probably tell you.

Personally
We use a Canon 20D at work, thing is amazing. Best part about the canons is that their digital and 35mm lenses are all interchangeable. We also have a Nikon D100 SLR. It is good as well but not as good as the Canon.

I was talking to this girl at my girls sisters wedding and she just bought a Rebel SLR which she said she loves. That is more of an entry level SLR at only around $900 or so but has received some good marks.

These are your typical medium to higher level digital SLR's. There are some outrageous ones out there but I think Canon is the best under $2500.


Good Luck!



lol...any SLR will have interchangeable lenses. The F-717 and 707 are not SLRS...still good cameras though!

You can find slightly used D60 (6MP, better than a 300D) on ebay for like 6-700$...then you need some lenses...

-Clovis


Posted by kamil on Nov-12-2004 04:24:

any noob asking about SLRS shouldnt get anythiing better than a Rebel.....thats what its for, for noobs, and, more importantly, it doesnt take nooblike photos, same sensor as 10D, i use a rebel, and ive done professional prints. came out VERY nice.


Posted by igottaknow on Nov-12-2004 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
any noob asking about SLRS shouldnt get anythiing better than a Rebel.....thats what its for, for noobs,

i was chuckling at that post. its like asking whats the best laptop because your thinking of getting an ATX mid tower.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-12-2004 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
i was chuckling at that post. its like asking whats the best laptop because your thinking of getting an ATX mid tower.


Haha...Kamil is totally right. Because even if a n00b gets a 20D...he'll be shooting in full auto or Program and not using any of the functions he paid for...


Posted by malek on Nov-12-2004 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
lol...any SLR will have interchangeable lenses. The F-717 and 707 are not SLRS...still good cameras though!

You can find slightly used D60 (6MP, better than a 300D) on ebay for like 6-700$...then you need some lenses...

-Clovis


you're wrong

SLR = A type of camera with one lens which is used both for viewing and taking the picture.

so, the F717 is an SLR.

has nothing to do with interchangeable lenses.

pwned?


Posted by kamil on Nov-12-2004 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
you're wrong

SLR = A type of camera with one lens which is used both for viewing and taking the picture.

so, the F717 is an SLR.

has nothing to do with interchangeable lenses.

pwned?


WRONG.

A SLR is a single lens reflex camera. Light coming into the camera through the lens that takes pictures is reflected up by a mirror behind the lens onto a ground glass screen above. You look at this screen through the viewfinder and a 5 sided glass prism (a pentaprism) is used to turn the image the correct way round.

so, does the F717 have a mirror?

No, i didnt think so...

ps. PWNED.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-12-2004 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
you're wrong

SLR = A type of camera with one lens which is used both for viewing and taking the picture.

so, the F717 is an SLR.

has nothing to do with interchangeable lenses.

pwned?


Why do they call those "SLR Like" then?

Hmm maybe I am wrong...whatever...I just know that all Nikon and Canon DSLRs have interchangeable lenses...


Posted by malek on Nov-12-2004 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
WRONG.

A SLR is a single lens reflex camera. Light coming into the camera through the lens that takes pictures is reflected up by a mirror behind the lens onto a ground glass screen above. You look at this screen through the viewfinder and a 5 sided glass prism (a pentaprism) is used to turn the image the correct way round.

so, does the F717 have a mirror?

No, i didnt think so...

ps. PWNED.



EDIT: for the f717, no it doesn't not have a mirror, but what you see on screen AND the electronic viewfinder is the exact same thing as the picture you'll take, hence the SLR apellation.


Posted by kamil on Nov-12-2004 05:25:

its ONLY SLR like.....trust me, i get payed for photography.

SLR = Single Lens Reflex

meaning, it needs a mirror, meaning SLRs use a mirror, therefor, anything that isnt "single lens reflex" is not an SLR.


Posted by malek on Nov-12-2004 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
its ONLY SLR like.....trust me, i get payed for photography.

SLR = Single Lens Reflex

meaning, it needs a mirror, meaning SLRs use a mirror, therefor, anything that isnt "single lens reflex" is not an SLR.


well I get paid too...

the F717 is an unique case, its one of the rare ones out there where the viewfinder is electronic and mimic that damn "mirror" you're talking about. Even god says so (dpreview.com)

I know it doesn't stand a chance against the other SLRs out there, but still the definition is clear, and the F717 is an SLR.


Posted by kamil on Nov-12-2004 05:31:

*sigh*

than u might wanna count the Minolta DiMage as an SLR too, eh?

my friend had it, its OBVIOUSLY not SLR..........


Posted by Clovis on Nov-12-2004 05:42:

play nice les amis


Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Nov-12-2004 05:44:

quote:
I also have the Canon Digital Rebel 300D, excellent camera too, the lense is ok, if you know a place in your town where you can rent lenses for cheap then you're all set.


quote:
We use a Canon 20D at work, thing is amazing.


quote:
i use a rebel, and ive done professional prints. came out VERY nice.


How�s the resolution and exposure metering on the rebel? Are there problems with the lens conversion factor on the canons if you use older canon lenses?


quote:
You can find slightly used D60 (6MP, better than a 300D) on ebay for like 6-700$...then you need some lenses...


Do you own the D60? I was checking out the D100 but it's a little steep at $1000 just for the body.

Thx


Posted by Clovis on Nov-12-2004 05:46:

quote:
Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior
How�s the resolution and exposure metering on the rebel? Are there problems with the lens conversion factor on the canons if you use older canon lenses?




Do you own the D60? I was checking out the D100 but it's a little steep at $1000 just for the body.

Thx


I own the D60's younger brother...the D30...examples on my gallery (hit my website button).

The D60 is a full 6MP and a GREAT slr feature wise...maybe a bit slower AF than the 300D but still a great camera...


Posted by kamil on Nov-12-2004 06:03:

PeacefulWarrior:

everything is exactly same as the rebel as on the 10D, except: slower fps, no spot metering, no 3200ISO (i think 10D has it), no AI-Servo, and no temperature controls. Basically, you wont really NEED those extra features, theyre nice, but not a necessity.

Review:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/300d.html

Sample Photos:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003...0d_samples.html


Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Nov-12-2004 06:16:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
PeacefulWarrior:

everything is exactly same as the rebel as on the 10D, except: slower fps, no spot metering, no 3200ISO (i think 10D has it), no AI-Servo, and no temperature controls. Basically, you wont really NEED those extra features, theyre nice, but not a necessity.

Review:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/300d.html

Sample Photos:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003...0d_samples.html


dzienkuje


Posted by kamil on Nov-12-2004 06:19:

nie ma sprawy

checkout some of my photos ive shot here:

www.undesign.deviantart.com/gallery/


Posted by DaveSZ on Nov-12-2004 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
PeacefulWarrior:

everything is exactly same as the rebel as on the 10D, except: slower fps, no spot metering, no 3200ISO (i think 10D has it), no AI-Servo, and no temperature controls. Basically, you wont really NEED those extra features, theyre nice, but not a necessity.

Review:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/300d.html

Sample Photos:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003...0d_samples.html



I use a spot meter or partial meter probably 70% of the time, so I'm glad that you mentioned that about the 300d; saved me about 800 bucks.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-12-2004 06:32:

AFAIK the 300D has AI Servo...it just switchis between it and one shot automatically (doesnt let you choose) which can be a bitch...


Posted by DaveSZ on Nov-12-2004 06:33:

You guys should stfu and try to help this guy out instead of comparing photo penors.



Check this thread for more mindless banter about dslrs:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&forumid=16&threadid=220522


Posted by kamil on Nov-12-2004 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSZ
You guys should stfu and try to help this guy out instead of comparing photo penors.



oh im sorry for actually having a hobby that goes beyond ure narrowminded internet ass. fuck, off, BITCH.


Posted by kamil on Nov-12-2004 06:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
AFAIK the 300D has AI Servo...it just switchis between it and one shot automatically (doesnt let you choose) which can be a bitch...


there are "hacks" but i dont bother..never needed it......


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