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Are rednecks/hillbilies the elite rich?

Just a thought in retrospect. Since all we've heard for the past 4 years was about how Bush favors the rich, yada yada yada. Now after the election, it's no longer about the rich--it's about the rednecks and hillbillies.

Are said rednecks and hillbillies the elite rich? What say you? IMO, it seems like a change in stance by the left in an attempt to understand Kerry's defeat. Just curious.

net profits at the end of second qtr. '04 for New York Times East: $120 million

Halliburton: $22 million


Disney net profits: $1.23 billion
Diebold: $73 million

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Originally posted by Shakka Are rednecks/hillbilies the elite rich? Just a thought in retrospect. Since all we've heard for the past 4 years was about how Bush favors the rich, yada yada yada. Now after the election, it's no longer about the rich--it's about the rednecks and hillbillies. Are said rednecks and hillbillies the elite rich? What say you? IMO, it seems like a change in stance by the left in an attempt to understand Kerry's defeat. Just curious.

Of course not - I'm beginning to wonder if the Republicans are attempting to depict the Democrats as labelling your entire party as the Redneck Bible-beatin' South.....

Sure enough, that's pretty much all that Limbaugh's been talkin' about today. Peering onto Hannity/Colmes last night, I got the distinct impression that Hannity was essentially stating the same thing.

Here's the deal - if any Dem. wants to label the entire Republican party as nothing more than a bunch of hillbilly hicks, then they would be sincerely fallacious in doing so. Your argument, along with these Conservative mouthpiece arguments would therefore be valid. I won�t claim that these assertions by maybe a select handful of misguided or shortsighted Dems. aren�t in existence, but I have yet to see such claims myself.

What I AM noticing, however, is merely the fact that the Religious Right has become well-aligned via voter turnout and activism for your Republican party, and they have already begun pushing their agenda through our government as a means of payback for greatly assisting in Bush�s re-election. If that seems untrue, then perhaps we should examine who exactly is creating the stir about Arlen Specter�s Chairman seat on the House Judiciary Committee and what he had stated last week was so controversial. IOW, the Religious Right is only part of the cohesive whole of the Republican party whom got Bush re-elected as well as earned more seats in the Legislature.

This is what I have seen as the understanding by the Democrats. However, I won�t deny that there is a certain �guilt by association� involved with this either, and that some Dems. are stating that if the Repubs. are going to have such an association with Religious Right, then the Dems. are going to hold them to their associations and assert that, indeed, the Repubs. are going to have to dance with the date that they brought to the ball. And honestly, I fail to see why this would truly be so unfair, considering the ongoing association, or shall I say fixation the Right has with Michael Moore and the Democratic Campaign.

But to state that the entire Republican party are a bunch of hillbilly Southern hicks would be fallacious by the Dems. � and it is equally fallacious of any Conservative blathering mouthpiece to try and assert that the Dems. are making such assertions as a whole.

The credit I give to the Republicans is the fact that, despite the difference in interest groups within the party and the seeming conflicts associated with the respective policy priorities of these groups, Carl Rove and the Repubs. have managed to perform a magnificent job in keeping these Conservative groups together in defeating a common cause (or enemy if you will) � John Kerry. I left work a tad bit early for the dentist yesterday, and managed to capture the majority of the following show on Fresh Air yesterday. Although I don�t agree with all of their assessments, I think both of these British authors nailed many points right on the head in regards to the Republican Party this election cycle. Have a good listen to the program if you have some time:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...storyId=4165172

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Of course not - I'm beginning to wonder if the Republicans are attempting to depict the Democrats as labelling your entire party as the Redneck Bible-beatin' South.....

I certainly don't think that's the case, hence the tone of the thread--though after the election that certainly seemed to be the viewpoint by a few of the more er...electorally disappointed folks on this forum.

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Sure enough, that's pretty much all that Limbaugh's been talkin' about today. Peering onto Hannity/Colmes last night, I got the distinct impression that Hannity was essentially stating the same thing.

Seriously? Ha! I haven't even tuned in to them in several days so I wouldn't know, but that's a funny coincidence. They must be monitoring the TA forum for my posts and are stealing my precious material!




You know I'm just stirring the pot. I have a hard time being too serious on a Friday. Any big plans for the weekend?

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Originally posted by Shakka You know I'm just stirring the pot. I have a hard time being too serious on a Friday. Any big plans for the weekend?

Yeah, a fucking baby shower that the Mrs. is forcing me to go to on Saturday.

Actually it probably won't be too bad - I'll just be gettin' drunk downstairs with the rest of the boys, playin' XBox or somethin'.

Oh yeah, to top it off on Sunday, we've gotta drive to the middle of Nowhere, Kansas to get another bride dress for a friend who's gettin' married, and my wife is the Maid of Honor.

But on the bright side of that one, her fiance and I will be able to find a bar somewhere and watch some NFL during the process.

Always a bright spot I guess.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Yeah, a fucking baby shower that the Mrs. is forcing me to go to on Saturday. Actually it probably won't be too bad - I'll just be gettin' drunk downstairs with the rest of the boys, playin' XBox or somethin'. Oh yeah, to top it off on Sunday, we've gotta drive to the middle of Nowhere, Kansas to get another bride dress for a friend who's gettin' married, and my wife is the Maid of Honor. But on the bright side of that one, her fiance and I will be able to find a bar somewhere and watch some NFL during the process. Always a bright spot I guess.

Man, does that sound familliar. Have you played Halo 2 yet? I hear it's awesome. Unfortunately for me, I'm stuck with the PS2(not really unfortunate). I got GTA: San Andreas recently, and it can keep me occupied mindlessly for hours.

My Falcons are back in action this week, so I'll be watching the Michael Vick show on Sunday. Your Chiefs made a mockery of us a few weeks ago.

Hopefully I'll be getting all of my freshly repaired furniture back this weekend and can finally get the new house looking like I want. Who knows, maybe grill out and down a few beers. Enjoy!

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Originally posted by Shakka Man, does that sound familliar. Have you played Halo 2 yet? I hear it's awesome. Unfortunately for me, I'm stuck with the PS2(not really unfortunate). I got GTA: San Andreas recently, and it can keep me occupied mindlessly for hours.

I have Halo 2. Lemme tell you, it's been a lot of long nights and the gf is starting to get pissy

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Originally posted by occrider I have Halo 2. Lemme tell you, it's been a lot of long nights and the gf is starting to get pissy

I have a visual of Baghdad Bob sitting in front of a TV playing Halo 2--rather funny visual I must say.

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Originally posted by occrider I have Halo 2. Lemme tell you, it's been a lot of long nights and the gf is starting to get pissy

Lol, Halo 2 and Everquest 2 will ruin alot of people's lifes this year.

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Originally posted by Massive84 Lol, Halo 2 and Everquest 2 will ruin alot of people's lifes this year.

Everquest....there's another game I never got into, but was always curious about. I used to love the Final Fantasy games back in the day. What is Everquest like?

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Originally posted by Shakka Everquest....there's another game I never got into, but was always curious about. I used to love the Final Fantasy games back in the day. What is Everquest like?

I played EQ 1 for 1 year.

The game grabs you so much, you won't even notice it, eventually i droped school and all (it was not totally due EQ)

That time i was depressed and all, and games and music was a way to escape from my self.

EQ is really a dangerous game(I remember a guy killed him self due EQ 1 he droped his job and everything just for EQ untill he realize that he had nothing left), you can say no i will never get addicted to games, NEVER am a stud and have sex 3 times a day, you can say all that but EQ can still fuck you up.

IMO EQ is a fun game, i played EQ1 for 1 year and explored like only 70% of all the content and maybe done only 60% of the quests (some quests can take 3-6 months, never done those hehe)

THe game is really fun, youl never get bored and Sony is smart, they expande the game each year with huge expansions so they won't make you loose intrest, it eats up alot of time.

One example, i live in holland, and i was in an American server, so this Chineese guild, moved all to this server so they can raid all the bosses when America is sleeping.(it was good for me, raids were like 13.00 my time and went sometimes till 20.00 or more , depends on the boss, god of nature was annoying and long). But these Chineese people had jobs, wifes etc, and i noticed they stayed up till like 4 am(their time) and sleep 2 hours then go work, and get back play , they repeat this like 3-4 days then sleep 1-2 days for real.

Am not gonne compare you with Asia, they are sick, thats my experience but if you wanne play it, i recommend it but once you start noticing you spend to much time, i say stop before it's to late .

Am glad i stoped playing mmorpgs.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Yeah, a fucking baby shower that the Mrs. is forcing me to go to on Saturday. Actually it probably won't be too bad - I'll just be gettin' drunk downstairs with the rest of the boys, playin' XBox or somethin'. Oh yeah, to top it off on Sunday, we've gotta drive to the middle of Nowhere, Kansas to get another bride dress for a friend who's gettin' married, and my wife is the Maid of Honor. But on the bright side of that one, her fiance and I will be able to find a bar somewhere and watch some NFL during the process. Always a bright spot I guess.

I see a reoccuring theme here. Drinking

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Originally posted by occrider I have Halo 2. Lemme tell you, it's been a lot of long nights and the gf is starting to get pissy

Maybe frag her a few times and show her whos boss

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Originally posted by Shakka I used to love the Final Fantasy games back in the day.

I got nostalgic a few months back and bought final fantasy 1 for NES (building up my NES collection again) ... $50 can you believe it?

haha, gotta love poli forum going OT

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Originally posted by occrider I got nostalgic a few months back and bought final fantasy 1 for NES (building up my NES collection again) ... $50 can you believe it?

Geeez! I would have sold you mine for $20, I'm dumping my whole NES collection

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil Geeez! I would have sold you mine for $20, I'm dumping my whole NES collection

Woah seriouslY??? What games?

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Originally posted by occrider Woah seriouslY??? What games?

Oh man I have the list upstairs but can't remember them all.

Stuff I have is

Original Nintendo in box with parts
2 normal controllers
1 rapid controller
Official Nintendo Wooden game cabinet
Original grey gun
around 30-40 games

Selling my 2 original gameboys too with like 20 games, cases, accesories

I was gonna ebay sell the whole lot, i just finished taking pictures, testing and cleaning all the games, and stuff. Gonna move next year and gotta start selling all my things. Debating whether or not to sell the transformers, He-man, and gi joes

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil Oh man I have the list upstairs but can't remember them all. Stuff I have is Original Nintendo in box with parts 2 normal controllers 1 rapid controller Official Nintendo Wooden game cabinet Original grey gun around 30-40 games Selling my 2 original gameboys too with like 20 games, cases, accesories I was gonna ebay sell the whole lot, i just finished taking pictures, testing and cleaning all the games, and stuff. Gonna move next year and gotta start selling all my things. Debating whether or not to sell the transformers, He-man, and gi joes

The more important question is, does any of that stuff still work? THe old NES systems we used to have would crap out after a couple of years. I can't even imagine trying one that's 15 years old!

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Originally posted by Shakka The more important question is, does any of that stuff still work? THe old NES systems we used to have would crap out after a couple of years. I can't even imagine trying one that's 15 years old!

i know what you are talking about... i have one, it does work, but it takes on average 5 min to start every game, and lots of blowing etc

NES is teh console! Sooooo much better than anything else

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Originally posted by Shakka The more important question is, does any of that stuff still work? THe old NES systems we used to have would crap out after a couple of years. I can't even imagine trying one that's 15 years old!

Hehe sure does, I actually played every single game to make sure they work and I cleaned out the system with the nintendo cleaner. Here is a shot of the nintedo playing Master Blaster I never beat that game as as kid, always got to the damn frog and they never gave enough lives. Lot of memories in that ol' system!

My gameboy systems dont work too well any more. They both have that thing on the old green screens where you start to get dead pixels on the edges, which I suppose was from overplaying them as a kid. All the games work fine though. I'm debating whether to sell them all together or separate on ebay, i might just do them all together to unload them.

Finally something everyone can all agree on...video games! Tecmo Bowl was the best!

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