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Posted by N|te-L|fe on Nov-13-2004 23:22:

Behavior of US troops in Iraq

Am I the only one to notice that for a while soldiers in Iraq have been pretty quiet, but now since Bush won his mandate they started attacking openly and taking over villages, showing on the news images more brutal and deadly then ever? Thats what I call plain hypocrisy... Why the hell did he have to wait so long if not to make sure he's re-elected before moving on? Isnt obvious that the guy has something to hide, that he knows he's not doing the right thing and just hopes that people wont realized it? I still cant believe the bastard managed to fool more then 50% of his people...

I just pray for those soldiers out there who had to wait about a year for nothing, who misse their family, who probably dont even know what they're fighting for, and who take the risk of getting killed every day, all for that a selfish prick who only cares about his damn elections..


Posted by BadBadNeil on Nov-14-2004 00:15:

It's obvious, no candidate would order his troops to attack a city where there may be possible US and civlian deaths right before an election. He got lucky that so far there have been much less deaths than I think were expected. It isn't fooling anyone, people have been talking about going into Fallujah for months, it's not like it was a surprise. Also I think part of it is they wanted to start the attack closer to the elections so it doesn't give the militants a chance to retake the city again.

Of course the guy cares about the elections, what do you expect him to care about? If he doesn't care about them then he doesn't get elected. Seems to me you are grasping at straws to find yet another reason to hate Bush when this would be common practice for any elected official to not upset the people who are voting for him.


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Nov-14-2004 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil

Of course the guy cares about the elections, what do you expect him to care about? If he doesn't care about them then he doesn't get elected. Seems to me you are grasping at straws to find yet another reason to hate Bush when this would be common practice for any elected official to not upset the people who are voting for him.


..at all, believe me my hatred for the guy is well-founded.. what I meant is that he cares more about this that the sake of his own troops wich had to wait about a year before doing anything.. Even if they are fewer casualties then expected, just imagine how futile they were!

They could have attacked Fallujah looong ago, and I didnt say he tried to keep that as a secret, just that his reasons for waiting that long were purely egoist..


Posted by BadBadNeil on Nov-14-2004 01:29:

A lot of it I think was elections but a lot also was coincidence. Remember they first went to Fallujah in april, but instead of going in the city they sent in an iraqi brigade to solve the problem. They promptly defected. Their had to be a buildup of us forces before going into fallujah and this required getting british troops to take over in baghdad for the us forces that would eventually go to fallujah, this took over a month. I think going in the closest to the elections as possible is the best route, rather than earier. I think however if we finished what we started in april there wouldn't have been nearly as many civlian deaths from the militants as well as beheadings.


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-14-2004 01:49:

Re: Behavior of US troops in Iraq

quote:
Originally posted by N|te-L|fe
Am I the only one to notice that for a while soldiers in Iraq have been pretty quiet, but now since Bush won his mandate they started attacking openly and taking over villages, showing on the news images more brutal and deadly then ever? Thats what I call plain hypocrisy... Why the hell did he have to wait so long if not to make sure he's re-elected before moving on? Isnt obvious that the guy has something to hide, that he knows he's not doing the right thing and just hopes that people wont realized it? I still cant believe the bastard managed to fool more then 50% of his people...

I just pray for those soldiers out there who had to wait about a year for nothing, who misse their family, who probably dont even know what they're fighting for, and who take the risk of getting killed every day, all for that a selfish prick who only cares about his damn elections..


I see you bought a television



btw troops know what they are fighting for. Stop acting like a Michael Mooron tool.


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Nov-14-2004 02:17:

Re: Re: Behavior of US troops in Iraq

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
I see you bought a television



btw troops know what they are fighting for. Stop acting like a Michael Mooron tool.



lol hurray for photoshop, and btw I dont need Moore or anybody to show me that Bush is a tyran thank you..

ask the families of those who got killed if they think their sons died for a good cause. Of course some really believe they are there for a good reason, these are the sames that get blinded by Bush's speechs and cant see whats really going on..

quote:
Originally posted by BadBadNeil
A lot of it I think was elections but a lot also was coincidence. Remember they first went to Fallujah in april, but instead of going in the city they sent in an iraqi brigade to solve the problem. They promptly defected. Their had to be a buildup of us forces before going into fallujah and this required getting british troops to take over in baghdad for the us forces that would eventually go to fallujah, this took over a month. I think going in the closest to the elections as possible is the best route, rather than earier. I think however if we finished what we started in april there wouldn't have been nearly as many civlian deaths from the militants as well as beheadings.


coincidence?? dude we are talking about almost a YEAR or war with very very little being done, and you think it's a coincidence that they JUST decided to move on.. all this BS about British troops is just a trick to gain some time, just like the reason they were sent there in the first place..

come on people, make some fucking sense already...


Posted by JM on Nov-14-2004 03:24:

well had the fight in fallujah been unsuccessful and happened a month ago, the swing voters might have been affected more.

but... its happening now, and its going good, so its all good. RIP to all the good soldiers giving their lives for democracy and a safer USA. My Heroes!

>JM<


Posted by BadBadNeil on Nov-14-2004 03:28:

Re: Re: Re: Behavior of US troops in Iraq

quote:
Originally posted by N|te-L|fe

coincidence?? dude we are talking about almost a YEAR or war with very very little being done, and you think it's a coincidence that they JUST decided to move on.. all this BS about British troops is just a trick to gain some time, just like the reason they were sent there in the first place..

come on people, make some fucking sense already...


I made my points, you took them for what you will, obviously no matter what I say or what facts I bring up will not convince you otherwise, the timetable in my opinion speaks for itself.


Posted by Krypton on Nov-14-2004 04:03:

every soldier ive talked to overwhelmingly supported bush and had the same hatred for michael moore and kerry as u have for bush and blair. why is their cause not worth dying for? its not whether u think what you are doing is good for your personal benefit or not, its a soldiers duty to follow orders, and thereby serving their country, and that is worth dying for if its necessary.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Nov-14-2004 15:07:

The wonders of photoshop:



Posted by BadBadNeil on Nov-14-2004 17:13:

the original one looked more real


Posted by ogvh5150 on Nov-14-2004 22:17:

The realism is behind the statements within the pictures not the pictures themselves.

Reality is not without a sense of irony.


Posted by BadBadNeil on Nov-14-2004 22:55:

What is ironic about a photoshopped picture of two guys in the marines holding a cardboard sign? I would like to know what the original writing was, perhaps that is real writing. I'll bring it into photoshop and examine the original posted image.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Nov-14-2004 22:56:

quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
Reality is not without a sense of irony.


Matrix?


Posted by sensorium on Nov-14-2004 23:01:

Some people watch a movie way too much. They even learn the dialogues.

"I didn't come here to tell you how it's going to end..."


Posted by speedracer_mec on Nov-15-2004 02:26:

this one is real



enjoy it fellas


Posted by sensorium on Nov-15-2004 02:38:

How is one to enjoy that?


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Nov-15-2004 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
this one is real



enjoy it fellas


I stand corrected you found a real one, that changes everything

my apologies

Pssst, there are morons in the army too you know..

anyway, I made my point


Posted by ShadoWolf on Nov-15-2004 03:16:

Quick someone post the pic of the soldier and the Iraqi boy with the sign that said something like "I killed his father and had sex with his sister. Pwned."


Posted by kamil on Nov-15-2004 03:24:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
this one is real



enjoy it fellas


i really do wish americans would just fuck off and mind their own fucking business. terrorist bastards.


Posted by Funk T on Nov-15-2004 04:00:

quote:
Originally posted by kamil
i really do wish americans would just fuck off and mind their own fucking business. terrorist bastards.


Strap a bomb to your chest and do something about it, talk is cheap.


Posted by Ondrayce on Nov-15-2004 05:14:

I'm sorry, but...

I couldn't help myself.


Posted by sensorium on Nov-15-2004 05:23:

I could only read 3 out 4 sings there.


Posted by N|te-L|fe on Nov-15-2004 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Ondrayce
I'm sorry, but...

I couldn't help myself.



Posted by Ondrayce on Nov-15-2004 05:33:

Yeah that 4th was a bit rushed.


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